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Nomadic Scholar
Feb 6, 2013


Crabtree posted:

There's not one, but TWO GUNGRAVE GAMES COMING OUT NEXT YEAR?! WHAT THE gently caress? Does Chorps already know about this?!

Looks like there are 3 of us who are excited for this.

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Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
I played Gungrave: Overdose on PS2, but that was before I was remotely good at games.

I am tentatively excited, if for no other reason than nostalgia.

Nomadic Scholar
Feb 6, 2013


Tbh I never played the ps2 game, but I loved the anime after blindly buying the series boxed set in high school.

Unreal_One
Aug 18, 2010

Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.

Wait, isn't Gungrave the game where you could beat basically every level by mashing the shoot button while slowly walking forward? I distinctly remember it being a regretted rental.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Nomadic Scholar posted:

Tbh I never played the ps2 game, but I loved the anime after blindly buying the series boxed set in high school.

I remember watching it on adult swim as a teenager and thinking it was pretty cool

kinda surprised me when it turned into a mafia story but that was actually good

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Unreal_One posted:

Wait, isn't Gungrave the game where you could beat basically every level by mashing the shoot button while slowly walking forward? I distinctly remember it being a regretted rental.

Well you definitely continuously shoot, but in the game I played, there was definitely more to it than that. Not only where there boss fights and such, it's also one of those games with a style system, I think, so walking forward and shooting might get you through the level, but not get you a very good score.

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

RC Cola posted:

What's that

You're all stuck in a saw basement and answer questions to escape. Sometimes you cut your fingers off. I'll let you figure out how that effects you maniacally

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



fivegears4reverse posted:

MGSV is hilarious because it is better than pretty much every single other MGS title in every way that should count, but because it doesn't spend 8+ hours of play time in cutscenes that are both extremely long and boring, the game is somehow bad to people.

I probably would have liked it better if more places were like the 'major' built up locations + Camp MurderDeathKill in Ground Zeroes, but I spent a stupid amount of time in both the PS4 and PC versions of the game regardless.

It's a lovely game and I call it like I see it? :tipshat:

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

Nah, its good

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

It's a lovely game and I call it like I see it? :tipshat:

Yeah yeah. We've all read your poo poo MG opinions ad nausium. you don't like popular game. Good job. Go call it elsewhere.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
This is a free country and he should be allowed to post his stupid loving garbage opinions here if he wants just like anyone else.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
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Biscuit Hider
God bless America. God bless MGSV.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

just as long as no one calls it MGS5

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



they should port phantom pain to vr and call it mgs vive

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Bombadilillo posted:

Yeah yeah. We've all read your poo poo MG opinions ad nausium. you don't like popular game. Good job. Go call it elsewhere.

I find the supporting opinions for the game tend to reflect a hype marketing machine that never turned off, but when people critique the echo chamber environment set in motion years ago by Kojima himself (and subsequently milked by Konami to this day with zombie metal gear) they are usually dismissed with the flaccid argument that MGSV 'fixed' all the things that were broken with the series up to that point. It didn't fix them, it just didn't include them at all. So in my mind it isn't a Metal Gear game regardless of how polished the mechanics are or how huge the marketing budget is.

Without the things that made the Metal Gear series distinct in the past MGSV just comes off as more open-world military porn with bad fast-travel.

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
MGS5 should have had a mission creator. It seems like it would be trivial to pick a spot on a map, place enemies and objectives, and have people go at it.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

I find the supporting opinions for the game tend to reflect a hype marketing machine that never turned off, but when people critique the echo chamber environment set in motion years ago by Kojima himself (and subsequently milked by Konami to this day with zombie metal gear) they are usually dismissed with the flaccid argument that MGSV 'fixed' all the things that were broken with the series up to that point. It didn't fix them, it just didn't include them at all. So in my mind it isn't a Metal Gear game regardless of how polished the mechanics are or how huge the marketing budget is.

Without the things that made the Metal Gear series distinct in the past MGSV just comes off as more open-world military porn with bad fast-travel.

Did you at least like the ideas behind Venom even if not how his story was told (sparsely)?

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Rinkles posted:

Did you at least like the ideas behind Venom even if not how his story was told (sparsely)?

I actually really liked the first 10 hours of the game, and I acknowledge that the meta of a game that is clearly unfinished (under duress at a horrible publisher) being related to a phantom limb is clever, if not clever enough.

At this point I find the ARG of Hideo Kojima's media-verse that we all exist in more interesting than his games. I've been excited for and subsequently disappointed by his games since 2005, after loving the poo poo out of MGS3.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007

ElwoodCuse posted:

MGS5 should have had a mission creator. It seems like it would be trivial to pick a spot on a map, place enemies and objectives, and have people go at it.
What did I just loving say!! V ain't a roman numeral

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

The V stands for fiVe

Electromax
May 6, 2007
I don't care as much about the story stuff knowing the 'real world' factors behind it, but GZ alone is still a blast to replay on its own. Same for a chunk of the main ones like Bees, Rescue Hal, Rescue Talker, Rescue Kids. Which is more than I can say for PW, which had utterly forgettable gameplay/story both despite being much more polished and complete. (it was a portable game but many folks prefer it to V which I don't get).

Can someone mod all the audio/plot stuff from PW into V's engine and then all the Hayters could be happier.

fivegears4reverse
Apr 4, 2007

by R. Guyovich

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Hmm, maybe people like characters who they've grown attached to and the characteristic bombastic plots filled with memorable characters, settings, bosses, and areas, and that a gigantic bland open world filled with repetitive missions that serve no purpose becomes massively unfun to play once you realize there's never going to be anything interesting to make up for it

That's great and all but Metal Gear Solid V, despite being a lovely movie, is still a pretty good videogame. In that regard, it's a step up from MGS4, which was neither a good movie or videogame.


Electromax posted:

I don't care as much about the story stuff knowing the 'real world' factors behind it, but GZ alone is still a blast to replay on its own. Same for a chunk of the main ones like Bees, Rescue Hal, Rescue Talker, Rescue Kids. Which is more than I can say for PW, which had utterly forgettable gameplay/story both despite being much more polished and complete. (it was a portable game but many folks prefer it to V which I don't get).

Can someone mod all the audio/plot stuff from PW into V's engine and then all the Hayters could be happier.

Peace Walker was funny because it is literally the game where we are explicity told that we are the bad guys, and like 3/4th of the fandom still think we didn't get to see the "fall" of intrepid superasshole Big "I AM A GUN" Boss.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I just finished shadow of mordor and the final two "boss fights" were really disappointing

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


Phantom Pain does playing with a wide range of toys and playstyles really well. It belly flops in many other aspects of the game, like the level design never living up to Camp Omega or the narrative overcorrecting from 4. I also think it's a real shame it gave you these large conflict zones without having any early-MGS4-style conflicts that you could help control. Those first 2 Acts of MGS4 have some of my favorite segments to play in an MGS game and it's a shame to see such a missed opportunity.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

fivegears4reverse posted:

Peace Walker was funny because it is literally the game where we are explicity told that we are the bad guys, and like 3/4th of the fandom still think we didn't get to see the "fall" of intrepid superasshole Big "I AM A GUN" Boss.

Eh... Peace Walker is a game where you play as someone trying to give a 3rd world country nuclear autonomy and the CIA is literally trying to start WW3.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Snak posted:

Eh... Peace Walker is a game where you play as someone trying to give a 3rd world country nuclear autonomy.

What could go wrong!!!!!

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



The real ending is mission 45, not 46 like most people think

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Quantum of Phallus posted:

What could go wrong!!!!!

You could fail and the country would continue to be subject to 1st-world corporate interests and have its people constantly murdered by drone strikes with no consequences.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Snak posted:

You could fail and the country would continue to be subject to 1st-world corporate interests and have its people constantly murdered by drone strikes with no consequences.

No no, MGSV is the one that takes place in Afghanistan.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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The mission i was talking about is after uhh something about Quiet getting captured or some poo poo i dont remember i hadn't played the game for a few months

it's deff not the convoy mission

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



verbal enema posted:

The mission i was talking about is after uhh something about Quiet getting captured or some poo poo i dont remember i hadn't played the game for a few months

it's deff not the convoy mission

If it's the mission I just mentioned then 9 is definitely too low a number.

I have a fondness for that mission because of the ludonarrative consonance I experienced during it, I thought it was pretty difficult too and then I realized that I was operating under the self-imposed restraint of not using any of the things that prevent an S-Rank, and I thought, why do I care about that right now

Cue unending artillery barrages and my helicopter providing nonstop fire support while I used the Parasite Suit to gently caress everyone up

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



oh I think that's an epilogue mission? where you're besieged by a bunch of tanks

I think I just brought my best rocket launcher and hid behind a rock tbh

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Is battlefront 2 worth the sale price if I just want to do some Star Wars tourism in the single player campaign?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

nachos posted:

Is battlefront 2 worth the sale price if I just want to do some Star Wars tourism in the single player campaign?

Don't give EA money.

Edit: That goes DOUBLE FOR YOU!! \/\/\/

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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

that sale is genuinely making me consider getting battlefront 2 and i need someone to come and slap the controller out of my hands for the next two days whenever that thought happens in my brain

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Brother Entropy posted:

that sale is genuinely making me consider getting battlefront 2 and i need someone to come and slap the controller out of my hands for the next two days whenever that thought happens in my brain

It's poo poo. There fix to lootboxes was to turn them off and FORCE you to grind. gently caress that game. gently caress them. Redbox or gamefly it. Do not support the literal worst example of a poo poo trend in gaming.

Buy a game of the year that's unfucked (If it is) later.

Do not support this. If you do you are the problem. loving dont.

Bombadilillo fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Dec 17, 2017

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Serious about Video games over here.

Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Single Player Battlefront is a disjointed disappointment, and lasts four hours at best. They recently released three extra single player missions as free DLC, which were incredibly phoned in and one of them might be the worst shooter level I've ever played.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
So the game is still just running as a loot box game without the loot boxes and they haven’t proposed any new solution?

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Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

veni veni veni posted:

Serious about Video games over here.

He wanted firm confirmation not to impulse buy. Shut up.

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