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Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

Genghis Cohen posted:

Does anyone have a video guide on basic basing techniques? I have always used the same method for my 40k armies: thinned pva glue on the base, stick in tub of mixed grain sand, shake off, then clear away excess once it's dried. I can't help feel but that I'm missing something (it's been a year or two since I last tried this) because it's just not going smoothly. Bits of sand clump up, come off easily, generally look a bit weak. Should I apply another layer of thinner pva glue to hold it all down?

I use that technique for my orks still. Here's what I do:
-slather the base with unthinned PVA.
-dip in my basing material.
-tap off the excess
-wait for the PVA to fully dry
-brush on a heavy coat of thinned down PVA to seal it in place
-prime, base coat, wash and dry brush

Next time I paint some new orks I may experiment with technical paints to see if I can get a close enough effect to keep them looking consistent.

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DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth
CRAFTWORLD Joderchrist Joderfoss Kraistfoss Christfoss idk yet, would appreciate some opinions on that.

ANyway, Fire Prisms are just a hair short of finished.





Just some touch ups and gloss to go. I do wonder if I should silver out the engine intakes to break up the :catdrugs:

Play by play:

This is the test piece


Color pallete


Color Pass


All masked up


Dark pass:



These guys will be done soon, masking them took forever. I was mid dark pass when my compressor died.

Lethemonster
Aug 5, 2009

I was hiding under your bench because I don't want to work out
Im still really terrible at photography. How are these detail shots of my baneblade looking? I cannot get a full shot of it without it looking garbage still.

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!
Looks great! It won't be perfect until that final matte coat.

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

Impressive weathering. I'm going to buy a chimera at some point just to practice that

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth

Lethemonster posted:

Im still really terrible at photography. How are these detail shots of my baneblade looking? I cannot get a full shot of it without it looking garbage still.



That's lovely. I hate you.

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Bucnasti posted:

I use that technique for my orks still. Here's what I do:
-slather the base with unthinned PVA.
-dip in my basing material.
-tap off the excess
-wait for the PVA to fully dry
-brush on a heavy coat of thinned down PVA to seal it in place
-prime, base coat, wash and dry brush

Next time I paint some new orks I may experiment with technical paints to see if I can get a close enough effect to keep them looking consistent.

Yeah, I think that would improve mine, if I started with unthinned PVA then did all with a very thinned down coat. Every day is a school day.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I want to prime and paint a large character model before I put it together. I won't paint over the parts that will be glued directly, but they'll get some primer on them. Will the glue still stick as well since there'll be a layer of primer between the layer of Zap-A-Gap?

Lethemonster
Aug 5, 2009

I was hiding under your bench because I don't want to work out
Ahh thank you! I very frequently paint things I think look lovely and then only have trash photos of them.

My photos of the tank as a whole (rather than detail shots) makes it look like the tank is having its school picture taken. I dont know how but it looks like its missing a laser background. It makes selling them difficult!

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Arthil posted:

I actually got a few of those fat medicine pill bottles I've been meaning to get rid of... and now will be repurposed as stands to paint from :D. I'll just drop a bunch of quarters in there for weight.

This is what I do, no need to switch models between a single base, I just keep everything I'm working on ready to go. It rules.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

BJPaskoff posted:

I want to prime and paint a large character model before I put it together. I won't paint over the parts that will be glued directly, but they'll get some primer on them. Will the glue still stick as well since there'll be a layer of primer between the layer of Zap-A-Gap?

I've done this and it did not work out. The glue will bond with the primer, not the model, so it will pull apart really easily. Can you mask off the bond points before priming?

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth
silly putty or blue tac is good for that

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Oh good idea, Silly Putty might work. To be honest I'll probably psych myself out that I'll fudge it up and end up assembling it first. :shobon:

Arthil
Feb 17, 2012

A Beard of Constant Sorrow
So I found me an old Battletech mech at a comic shop we passed on the way home from Star Wars.



This'll be a fun little thing to try... although there's not a tonne of space for pinning.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Right up into the base of the foot for a stand.

Arms and all that, most pins the size of paper clip can fit anywhere. You will surprise yourself.


Just started on this guy last night. I'll make a half rear end attempt at NMM on the suit and gold...thingys.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Dec 17, 2017

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

DiHK posted:

CRAFTWORLD Joderchrist Joderfoss Kraistfoss Christfoss idk yet, would appreciate some opinions on that.

ANyway, Fire Prisms are just a hair short of finished.





Just some touch ups and gloss to go. I do wonder if I should silver out the engine intakes to break up the :catdrugs:

Play by play:

This is the test piece


Color pallete


Color Pass


All masked up


Dark pass:



These guys will be done soon, masking them took forever. I was mid dark pass when my compressor died.


Jesus christ man that's some beautiful eye vomit. I love it.

What kind of masking did you use there, by the way?

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth

Slimnoid posted:

What kind of masking did you use there, by the way?

Thanks! I bought a six pack of bog standard- comes in an red plastic egg- silly putty from amazon. It looks a bit weird in the one shot because I had already used some of it on the A-10. I'm curious to see how many uses I'll get out of it before it looses it's stick. It was thoroughly pale blue-gray when I put it on the Wraith guard.

Kabuki Shipoopi
Jun 22, 2007

If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

Alokgen posted:

I managed to finish my Scrap Jack Gun Boar tonight.











I also recently did some conversions for my gators. Here's some WIP shots.



These own so loving hard. The gator guy on one foot is :kimchi: as gently caress. Love the conversions a ton, nice work!

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Base finally dried and got this dude finished.



Salynne
Oct 25, 2007

Philthy posted:

Base finally dried and got this dude finished.





I'm sorry but that looks like a cookie and I can't unsee it. You're giving moola a run for his money here.

Arthil
Feb 17, 2012

A Beard of Constant Sorrow
Kind of realizing I have no idea what size of a base to get for this Frost Giant King.



Going by the comparison mini being probably on a 25mm base, what might I need to shoot for? My best guess was an 100mm base but that might be shooting too big.

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

Philthy posted:

Base finally dried and got this dude finished.





Love it but those are definitely those thin waffle cookies

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.
My wraithguard are coming along unbelievably well, and I'm getting really good at freehand at this point.











I am so proud of these guys.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009
well you should be proud because they look loving sweet

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug
That meditating wraithlord is sublime.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

bonds0097 posted:

That meditating wraithlord is sublime.

Tell that to the guy drawing los to it. :colbert:


(It looks great)

Felime
Jul 10, 2009
Yeah. It looks amazing. After that my second thought was that it was unfortunate you might have trouble using it in tournaments and junk.

Seriously, though, you are rightly proud. They all look awesome.

bonds0097
Oct 23, 2010

I would cry but I don't think I can spare the moisture.
Pillbug
True LoS is stupid. I like that all the smart games just use a standard "volume cylinder" from the base to determine LoS.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Arthil posted:

Alright then! The pictures aren't all super clear as I don't have a setup for taking them.

Here's how it looked with the base coat already added, and after we applied some kind of textured paint to the base.


This is the end result I took at home. He showed us how to use washes, though I may have messed that up at some point. Showed a technique for giving a metallic effect on metal, which we used on the bolter and jetpack. I couldn't get the blending technique down as I wasn't 100% sure what I was meant to be doing, so to fix my mistakes I went back and gave a different color to the shoulders. Ended up doing a lot of dry brushing on this, and at the end decided to do the same with the base which I think looked better than the original gray. There was another color some people had for their bases which actually had chunks in it and it seemed to crack and have a more natural ground effect.


And here is a close look at the jetpack. Even here it isn't as apparent, but I ended up doing a good job with the rusting effect here.


Overall I know it's messy, but I like how I did going in blind. Once I have my own brand new brushes it'll probably feel easier getting the smaller details too, I couldn't color the eyes at all with the ones provided. Also thought working with a grey would be easier, but a darker color probably would've turned out better.

How long was the session? Depending on the wash, if you dont let the paint dry completely the wash can end up mixing with the paint, which can muddy things up.

Like everyone else has said though, not a bad first stab at all :)

For some inspiration, here's the first mini of one of the best 40k painters around:

Arthil
Feb 17, 2012

A Beard of Constant Sorrow

Neurolimal posted:

How long was the session? Depending on the wash, if you dont let the paint dry completely the wash can end up mixing with the paint, which can muddy things up.

Like everyone else has said though, not a bad first stab at all :)

For some inspiration, here's the first mini of one of the best 40k painters around:


Oh for sure looking at it we didn't have anywhere -near- enough time. The whole session was 2 hours, but I know we didn't wait 30-40 minutes for the wash to dry.

Edit: That picture definitely makes me feel better lol. We'll see how I do with something that is 100% mine from start to finish. Relative bought me... more or less what I was missing for painting. Toolbox/Reaper learn to paint kit/set of medieval vallejo paints/black primer/brushes/blue-tak which will all be arriving tomorrow.

Kabuki Shipoopi
Jun 22, 2007

If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

Neurolimal posted:

How long was the session? Depending on the wash, if you dont let the paint dry completely the wash can end up mixing with the paint, which can muddy things up.

Like everyone else has said though, not a bad first stab at all :)

For some inspiration, here's the first mini of one of the best 40k painters around:


Is this Duncan's?

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Yep.

Dremcon
Sep 25, 2007
No, not a convention.
I’m moving from Michigan to Japan for a 3 year work contract. Anyone have any experience with moving your hobby stuff across the ocean? My thoughts are to put my paint in ziplocks and throw some desiccant packets in there in case sea air leaks through (my stuff is being shipped by boat).

Also, anyone have any recommendations on hobby stores in Yokohama? Or Tokyo?

Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

Arthil posted:

Kind of realizing I have no idea what size of a base to get for this Frost Giant King.



Going by the comparison mini being probably on a 25mm base, what might I need to shoot for? My best guess was an 100mm base but that might be shooting too big.

Stick a 25mm under each foot

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?
50mm-60mm should be fine for the frost giant.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Dremcon posted:

I’m moving from Michigan to Japan for a 3 year work contract. Anyone have any experience with moving your hobby stuff across the ocean? My thoughts are to put my paint in ziplocks and throw some desiccant packets in there in case sea air leaks through (my stuff is being shipped by boat).

Also, anyone have any recommendations on hobby stores in Yokohama? Or Tokyo?

First: Fucker, why didn't you tell us you were in MI?

Second: Unless you have some kind of super-specialized tool, I wouldn't bother shipping your paints and stuff, you can easily get that stuff in Japan (Tamiya is, after all, a Japanese company). As for where to buy stuff, there's a fantastic LAOX hobby store in Akihabara that has different poo poo on every floor (like an entire floor devoted to Gundam, another for historical models, one for airsoft, one for Warhammer stuff, etc). Warning - the lowest basement level is purely devoted to skeevy anime porn.

VolatileSky
May 5, 2007
i'm gay thx

DiHK posted:

CRAFTWORLD Joderchrist Joderfoss Kraistfoss Christfoss idk yet, would appreciate some opinions on that.

ANyway, Fire Prisms are just a hair short of finished.





Just some touch ups and gloss to go. I do wonder if I should silver out the engine intakes to break up the :catdrugs:

Play by play:

This is the test piece


Color pallete


Color Pass


All masked up


Dark pass:



These guys will be done soon, masking them took forever. I was mid dark pass when my compressor died.


These are so good, the blending of colour comes across much better on the tanks than the warthog, glad you let the weird blue stripe go. It's still funny how it goes from rainbow vomit to fossian patterning after that black is added.

JackMann
Aug 11, 2010

Secure. Contain. Protect.
Fallen Rib

Dremcon posted:

I’m moving from Michigan to Japan for a 3 year work contract. Anyone have any experience with moving your hobby stuff across the ocean? My thoughts are to put my paint in ziplocks and throw some desiccant packets in there in case sea air leaks through (my stuff is being shipped by boat).

Also, anyone have any recommendations on hobby stores in Yokohama? Or Tokyo?

I didn't have a huge issue getting my paint kit to and from Kuwait, but it was in my luggage. Still, I shouldn't think you'd need desiccant packets so long as you make sure the paints are all closed tightly and in baggies. The one worry I might have is if your stuff freezes. Acrylic paints are pretty much perma-wrecked if they freeze through. If you know what the conditions are like and if that's a possibility, you can plan accordingly. It might not be a worry, and it might be possible to insulate your stuff, but it's worth checking on.

Check the cost of shipping the paints and stuff. It should still work out cheaper than completely replacing them, but as Ilor said, you can just replace everything when you get there if you have to.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Do the Caliban and Space Wolf aerosol sprays match the colour in the paint pots properly? I know that the Macragge Blue spray doesn't.

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Injuryprone
Sep 26, 2007

Speak up, there's something in my ear.

Do I use typhus corrosion before or after I matte varnish?

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