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I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Ms Ley � who resigned a year ago amid a scandal involving her purchase of a property on the Gold Coast while on a taxpayer-funded work trip � is also in the mix for a return to Cabinet. Those supporting her return say she was a competent Cabinet minister has been exonerated of any wrongdoing and would help Mr Turnbull boost the number of women in his Cabinet team.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:05

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# ? May 23, 2024 20:37

AbortRetryFail: Jan 17, 2007; No more Mr. Nice Gaius

IIRC Abbott went "nah there's good debt and bad debt so it's all good bro" back when it was raised

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:08

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

Solemn Sloth posted:

Remember how the coalition was going to return the budget to surplus and start reducing debt in their first budget or some dumb poo poo and no one in the media bothered following it up ever

Well there was so much chaos and uncertainty due to the budget crisis they inherited from labor

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:08

Futuresight: Oct 11, 2012; IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!

ewe2 posted:

More good news from The Kouk:

https://twitter.com/TheKouk/status/942572001700352000

Yeah but imagine how big it would be if Labor was in power!

:negative:

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:18

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

AbortRetryFail posted:

IIRC Abbott went "nah there's good debt and bad debt so it's all good bro" back when it was raised

Which is a valid point, except that the LNP did nothing at all with it except throw money at coal.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:21

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

Good debt:
Paying rent on the industries you just privatised.
Paying corporations to start tax-free ventures.
Starting wars in places that smell funny.
Paying JSAs to not give people jobs.
Offshore concentration camps.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:27

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Skellybones posted:

Good debt:
Paying rent on the industries you just privatised.
Paying corporations to start tax-free ventures.
Starting wars in places that smell funny.
Paying JSAs to not give people jobs.
Offshore concentration camps.

Buying F-35s?

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:30

Skellybones: May 31, 2011; Fun Shoe

I just learned that they reused the same air supply system as the F-22 and it's still hosed so it sometimes asphyxiates the pilot lmao

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:35

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Skellybones posted:

I just learned that they reused the same air supply system as the F-22 and it's still hosed so it sometimes asphyxiates the pilot lmao

There was also a news article the other day about how... Norway, I think? was pissed because it turned out the F-35 was sending all their confidential mission data back to the US and the US won't give them a way to stop it.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:38

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

haha holy loving poo poo

quote:

Ginger Jiang sues after being forced to jump from burning Bankstown apartment

A young woman who was forced to jump from a burning building in Sydney's west is suing her landlord and body corporate in the Supreme Court, alleging her apartment had an increased risk of fire because it did not have sprinklers installed and was modified without council approval.

Yinou "Ginger" Jiang and her friend Pingkang "Connie" Zhang were inside a fifth-floor apartment at the West Terrace development in Bankstown on September 6, 2012, when a fire started on the balcony and quickly spread inside.

The pair became trapped in a bedroom and climbed onto the narrow window ledge outside, but the fire's heat was so unbearable they were forced to jump.

Ms Zhang � a promising pharmacy and nursing student � died, while Ms Jiang survived with "severe injuries" to her legs that require her to use a wheelchair.
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Ms Jiang and her parents are now seeking damages, interest and costs in the Supreme Court, as are Ms Zhang's parents and the student's boyfriend Shengkai Li.

According to court documents, Ms Zhang phoned her boyfriend multiple times as the blaze consumed the apartment, but the calls were interrupted by poor reception. When Mr Li rushed home, he discovered she had died.

The families are suing the apartment's landlord, James Peng; the Property Investor Alliance, which allegedly told Mr Peng he could build another bedroom in the unit; and the company responsible for installing extinguishers in the building.

They are also suing the body corporate, the realty group that managed the building, the certifier who issued an occupancy certificate for the building and Silky Constructions, who built the apartments.

They allege fire risks at the apartment were "forseeable" and "not insignificant", and all defendants were under a duty to take precautions against the risk of harm.

In documents lodged with the Supreme Court, Ms Jiang and the other plaintiffs allege an extra room was added inside the apartment without appropriate or qualified advice, so it could be rented out to more people to make more money.

This added "additional fuel", made the unit "more of a fire risk", and allegedly made it harder to escape.

It is further alleged the builders modified the building's plans without council approval, to "shav[e] centimetres off the building's height" so it would be just shy of 25 metres tall, the threshold at which a sprinkler system must be installed.

It is alleged the defendants breached their duty of care by failing to install fire sprinklers, failing to ensure fire doors were working, and issuing the occupancy certificate for the building when it did not have sprinklers.

In court documents, Ms Jiang, Mr Li and the parents of both women say they suffered damage as a result of the fire.

Ms Jiang's parents suffered "injury, loss and damage" upon hearing of her injuries, while Ms Zhang's parents suffered "injury" and distress when they were told of their daughter's death.

In a statement of claim, Ms Zhang's mother says she suffers depression, anxiety, PTSD, nightmares and flashbacks as a result of what her daughter went through.

Ms Zhang attended the University of Sydney on a scholarship and would have completed her combined degree by the end of 2017 if she had not died, her parents said. She would then have been able to support them.

The claims are being defended on several counts, with the defendants denying some of the allegations against them, denying they had a duty of care, and saying the action should be "statute barred" because it has been brought more than three years after the fire.

The body corporate is also suing the apartment's builders and developers, seeking costs to rectify "defects" in the apartment block.

The matter will return to court next year.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ginger-jiang-sues-after-being-forced-to-jump-from-burning-bankstown-apartment-20171215-h05p90.html

# ? Dec 18, 2017 03:51

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Skellybones posted:

Good debt:
Paying rent on the industries you just privatised.
Paying corporations to start tax-free ventures.
Starting wars in places that smell funny.
Paying JSAs to not give people jobs.
Offshore concentration camps.

Don't forget giving 9 billion dollars to the RBA to make it look like the debt was worse under labor.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 04:32

Mr Chips: Jun 27, 2007; Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Don't forget giving 9 billion dollars to the RBA to make it look like the debt was worse under labor.

For extra irony, Hockey's rationale was structural issues in the US economy.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 05:04

ModernMajorGeneral: Jun 25, 2010

MikeJF posted:

There was also a news article the other day about how... Norway, I think? was pissed because it turned out the F-35 was sending all their confidential mission data back to the US and the US won't give them a way to stop it.

Haha, for real?

Pretty satisfying that the military also has to deal with buying lovely software overloaded with spyware.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 05:27

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Can the government really make students pay back HECS earlier without the Senate?

45k is basically a casual job on full time hours.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 07:36

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

Michaelia Cash possibly for attorney general, jesus.

Rule of law is over.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 07:52

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Anidav posted:

Can the government really make students pay back HECS earlier without the Senate?

45k is basically a casual job on full time hours.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 07:54

hyperbowl: Mar 26, 2010

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

haha holy loving poo poo
Ginger Jiang sues after being forced to jump from burning Bankstown apartment
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ginger-jiang-sues-after-being-forced-to-jump-from-burning-bankstown-apartment-20171215-h05p90.html

The inquest was a few years ago and had some really scary stuff. The fire brigade and council first issued orders 2 years before the fire but nothing was done, even after the brigade discovered that there wasn't enough pressure at the hydrants while attending a fire in the basement.

The developer doesn't fare well in the report:
http://www.coroners.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/Zhang%20findings%2018%2009%2015%20FINAL.pdf

quote:

130. Problems with this building concerning fire safety were first identified in 2010. Yet despite the appearance of activity to address the issues, nothing substantial to make the building safer was done before 6 September 2012.

131. This was not only a systemic issue. During his evidence, Mr Ray Finianos admitted that developers should not make unauthorized alterations to their buildings after an occupation certificate is issued. Despite the fact that he and his father have been in the business of constructing residential towers for many years, Mr Finianos claimed that he did not know that, even on his own certifier�s understanding of the definition of an atrium, putting a roof over a �light well� converted the structure into an atrium.

132. He also claimed that he would have complied with any directions for safety improvements that were made to his company. When Mr Finianos asserted this in his evidence, it appears that he had overlooked the fact that several such orders had been made over a lengthy period, none of which had resulted in any substantial improvements to the building by 6 September 2012.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 08:10

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

DancingShade posted:

Rule of law is over.

Combined with Dutton's new ministry, yes, I can't imagine Cash Me Outside caring too much about Home Affairs overstepping their bounds.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 08:15

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Anidav posted:

Can the government really make students pay back HECS earlier without the Senate?

45k is basically a casual job on full time hours.

Actually 45k would be less than that depending what award it's on if you factor in loading into it.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 08:33

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

Michaelia Cash possibly for attorney general, jesus.

ABC is saying Christian Porter is up for that spot

# ? Dec 18, 2017 09:10

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

You Am I posted:

ABC is saying Christian Porter is up for that spot

A meteoric rise for that arsehole.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 09:12

Brown Paper Bag: Nov 3, 2012

https://twitter.com/josh_jerga/status/942712352457109507

# ? Dec 18, 2017 13:19

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Brown Paper Bag posted:

https://twitter.com/josh_jerga/status/942712352457109507

Ah good. Can't wait for the jailing of Centrelink recipients who contest government issued debts of questionable accuracy.

Also the outlawing of any opposition related groups.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 13:39

Capt.Whorebags: Jan 10, 2005

loving hell ABC24, twenty minutes ago they had IPA shill Georgina Downer in to discuss the news, now they�re gently lobbing in a bunch of softball questions for Matthias Cormann to knock out of the park.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 21:13

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-19/terrifying-last-moments-hindu-sikh-domestic-violence/9257808

loving hell these stories, what is going on with these religions?

# ? Dec 18, 2017 21:43

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-19/terrifying-last-moments-hindu-sikh-domestic-violence/9257808

loving hell these stories, what is going on with these religions?

Agreed, these primitive religions are as barbaric as their adherents, not like the moral lighthouse of Christianity

# ? Dec 18, 2017 22:27

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-19/terrifying-last-moments-hindu-sikh-domestic-violence/9257808

loving hell these stories, what is going on with these religions?

Masculinity

Capt.Whorebags posted:

loving hell ABC24, twenty minutes ago they had IPA shill Georgina Downer in to discuss the news, now they’re gently lobbing in a bunch of softball questions for Matthias Cormann to knock out of the park.

Welcome to the News Corporisation of ABC thanks to Guthrie and her ex-News Corpse pals that she has hired.

# ? Dec 18, 2017 22:29

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

You Am I posted:

Masculinity

Welcome to the News Corporisation of ABC thanks to Guthrie and her ex-News Corpse pals that she has hired.

The best thing is that it hasn�t changed any of the dumb perception that the ABC is left leaning

# ? Dec 18, 2017 22:31

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Weird that Uhlmann left. If he stayed we would have The Uhlmann Report at 7:30pm which is good because :shrek:

# ? Dec 18, 2017 22:33

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Solemn Sloth posted:

The best thing is that it hasn�t changed any of the dumb perception that the ABC is left leaning

despite articles popping up like this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-18/greens-spend-150,000-dollars-on-media-monitoring/9268356

# ? Dec 18, 2017 23:32

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Anidav posted:

Weird that Uhlmann left. If he stayed we would have The Uhlmann Report at 7:30pm which is good because

https://twitter.com/mjrowland68/status/942870482113540096

# ? Dec 18, 2017 23:44

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Doctor Spaceman posted:

https://twitter.com/mjrowland68/status/942870482113540096

This would never happen on the superior morning show, ABC News Breakfast.

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:13

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

This would never happen on the superior morning show, SBS Deutsche Welle English News.

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:24

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

Sydney Police armed with Semi autos to stop terrorism apparently.

taking bets on how long it takes for a bystander/hostage to catch a bullet.

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:31

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Laserface posted:

Sydney Police armed with Semi autos to stop terrorism apparently.

taking bets on how long it takes for a bystander/hostage to catch a bullet.

Lindt Cafe?

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:44

cohsae: Jun 19, 2015

Love to see our police becoming more like American cops. Can't wait until we start giving them old tanks and poo poo to play with. Really cool.

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:46

Krabboss: Nov 11, 2016; MY HUSBAND'S PARSE IS BETTER THAN YOURS

Starting to think I left the country at just the right time.

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:55

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

They need to give myki inspectors M4s.

# ? Dec 19, 2017 00:59

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

They need to give myki inspectors M4s.

What myki inspectors?

# ? Dec 19, 2017 01:01

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# ? May 23, 2024 20:37

UrbanLabyrinth: Jan 28, 2009; When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence; College Slice

Xenophon's SA Best gains stunning lead over Labor and Liberal: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-19/xenophons-sa-best-leading-newspolls-popularity-poll/9270690

How would the Feds cope with having a non big-two-party premier? Has this happened before in recent history?

# ? Dec 19, 2017 01:07

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