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Fans love the new Star Wars character Pepe Silvia
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Dec 18, 2017 03:17
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The basic concept of the slow chase through desolate empty space is a loose reference to the book of Exodus. You know, the part where the Israelites journey through the desert to the promised land and there’s a bunch of doubt and infighting. As soon as they mentioned the dwindling fuel supplies I half expected the Hanukkah miracle.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:18
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Can't believe people are defending Hux. For starters, not a great casting choice. Gleeson is great in other movies but he constantly looks like he's about to burst out laughing in pretty much every scene in TFA. He also continually forgets that at any point Kylo can toss him around like a rag doll. How the gently caress do you become a General without understanding the order of power?
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Dec 18, 2017 03:19
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fromsinkingsands posted:For starters, not a great casting choice. Gleeson is great in other movies but he constantly looks like he's about to burst out laughing in pretty much every scene in TFA. I disagree. Not sure what else there is to say apart from this.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:20
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Right, she’s very specifically characterized as a purple-haired pansexual woman - a perfect “sjw” bogeyman. It’s the same as how you get a wikieaks-style unscrupulous hacker. I can dig it; I like the entire exodus read
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Dec 18, 2017 03:28
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fromsinkingsands posted:Can't believe people are defending Hux. For starters, not a great casting choice. Gleeson is great in other movies but he constantly looks like he's about to burst out laughing in pretty much every scene in TFA. He also continually forgets that at any point Kylo can toss him around like a rag doll. How the gently caress do you become a General without understanding the order of power? Hubris is a hell of a drug. Hell Snoke specifically elevated him so there'd be a sniveling underling as the head of the Navy and therefore not a threat to him.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:28
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I like how Yoda came back as a force ghost just to lie to Luke one last time before he died.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:33
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ATP_Power posted:I like how Yoda came back as a force ghost just to lie to Luke one last time before he died. What did he say that was a lie?
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Dec 18, 2017 03:34
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The camera cuts to the leg of a sleek black space ship slowly landing with dramatic steam then the camera pulls out and it's just a shirt ironing machine I love when that first appeared, I said to myself, "that spaceship looks like an iron". That was such a laugh when they did that reveal. euphronius posted:They'll have to make a breast page at wookiepedia. Let's also not forget that, not just the thala-sirens, but we also have an alien that's body is entirely made up of boobs on Monte Carlo planet.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:39
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Empress Brosephine posted:Also what was the point of shirtless Kylo It's nearly a marvel movie, so a male lead needs to take his shirt off once. Not sure why it wasn't Poe if that was the case. Other reason is probably to show Rey the scar to generate conflict in her view of Kylo AND because we're aping the originals while also underlining that Kylo is a cosplayer, this was his "vulnerable moment of partial nudity" like when someone saw Vader's gross head except it's just his greasy muscle, some scars, and comically high pleather pants.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:41
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PJOmega posted:What did he say that was a lie? Luke thinks that Yoda's just destroyed the tree and the texts when Rey's taken them for herself, IIRC Yoda even says Rey has everything she needs from the island.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:53
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ATP_Power posted:I like how Yoda came back as a force ghost just to lie to Luke one last time before he died. With super beefy cheeks.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:55
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I still think Poe is gay and BB8 is the stereotypical small dog
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Dec 18, 2017 03:55
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ATP_Power posted:Luke thinks that Yoda's just destroyed the tree and the texts when Rey's taken them for herself, IIRC Yoda even says Rey has everything she needs from the island. Yeah, he specifically says "There's nothing in there she doesn't already have" Because she stole the sacred texts. So Yoda nuked an old tree to mess with Luke. He never lied to Luke tho.
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Dec 18, 2017 03:56
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fivegears4reverse posted:You can pretend it wasn't an attempt to stall for time, but that's being either ignorant or ridiculously forgiving of a bad movie. I don't know why you're writing me this essay (which wanders off topic in literally its third sentence) when all the characters and visuals agree that Poe went for the dreadnaught because he wanted to secure a long-term strategic advantage and not because it was an immediate do-or-die in which no one had any other choice. There's no dialogue/visuals disagreement here. We see, with our eyes, that Poe isn't even done blowing up the guns on the deck when he's called back to retreat, and that the dreadnaught is no where near firing again. Poe's insubordination represented a strategic disagreement (we should prioritize high-value targets in order to gain a long term advantage) rather than a tactical disagreement (we will literally lose and die unless I do the thing you're telling me not to do).
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Dec 18, 2017 03:58
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PJOmega posted:Yeah, he specifically says "There's nothing in there she doesn't already have" A lie of omission, just like in TOS. Obviously he had more to say than that, but it's funny that even as a force ghost Yoda's still messing with Luke.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:01
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So I'm reading and hearing that nerds are mad that Snoke got killed? Make up your minds. When he was first introduced, all I read were jokes about how terrible of a bad guy he is, how lame his name is etc. Then when he gets loving epically punked by Kylo the internet erupts that it was a waaaaaaaste of potentiaaaaaal. Why build up this bad guy only to kill hiiiiim! The Star Wars are ruiiined. They hosed it up! The movie does the unexpected and kills Supreme Leader Snookie and suddenly that's it, that's too much.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:04
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Snoke was not scary once he was just a dude and I'm glad he's gone.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:06
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I'm waiting for the "Snoke dies at the end of The Last Jedi" truck decal and for absolutely nobody to care except a vocal minority who run YouTube channels.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:08
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Young Freud posted:Let's also not forget that, not just the thala-sirens, but we also have an alien that's body is entirely made up of boobs on Monte Carlo planet. Not without precedent: 
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Dec 18, 2017 04:09
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fivegears4reverse posted:The resistance fleet isn't "stuck waiting around for its fighters," it's still in the middle of the evacuation. Poe's X-wing docks with the cruiser as the fleet is already preparing to warp. During that whole bomber sequence, we are explicitly shown that the rebels are not even wholly prepared to escape until AFTER the dreadnaught gets cooked. Everything about the attack on the dreadnaught is to BUY TIME. Like, this is the whole point of that sequence. The rebels are trying to stall so they can complete the evacuation, which was not complete even when the bombers went in. The sequence additionally shows us, multiple times, the threat posed by the dreadnaught. You're really not a Star Wars fan, huh?
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Dec 18, 2017 04:11
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AndyElusive posted:So I'm reading and hearing that nerds are mad that Snoke got killed? i think its more that you never learn a thing about him. unlike the eperor you sorta need to know at least a little bit of his backstory because its a sequel. in the ot palps was the space wizard hitler running the eviul empire and thats all you need to know. in this its like oh ok i guess nothing in the ot mattered because a second space wizard hitler had another empire anyway.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:12
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After a second viewing, here are a few more thoughts I had on the movie... - The Resistance was founded as a way for the Republic to fight battles it couldn't, in any official capacity. But in spite of the destruction of the Hosnian system, is there literally no other vestiges of the new Republic? At all? Not even on Coruscant? No military outposts/bases that could assist the Resistance at all? - Building off first point -- I think it's odd the Resistance went all the way back to calling themselves "the rebels." Seriously, the First Order took out the capital, but then they just went and conquered most of the galaxy in the better part of a week or two after losing their single biggest installation? - One thing that struck me was a similar complaint I had with the first Aftermath book. Which is characters using words and phrases that don't sound like how anyone in that universe would say within the context(s) we've seen for 40 or so years of Star Wars media. For example, saying "...big rear end door," is just one example. There were others, but I'd need to see it again to actually remember them all. There were at least three instances that struck me, for sure, even though I can't quite recall the exact quote and context. - The subversion of expectation and wish fulfillment is something I genuinely appreciate. I like that Rey is literally from nothing, and I hope they stick to that. It does get old when everyone seems to be someone else or related to someone important all the time, and she is just Rey. Unconnected. Same with Snoke. I'm kind of glad we were spared a shitload of additional exposition. - I also really like that Disney really has created an all new mythology around the Force, and are just embracing the space-magic element. It makes it more fun and interesting to see how force-sensitive characters choose to manipulate the Force, although I still think the Leia Mary Poppins flight thing was weird as hell, even if not that surprising. But the force apparitions or whatever, that's cool. I remember that ability being used extensively in the Dark Empire comics and loved the concept. - I really need to know wtf happened to the Knights of Ren. Why even bring them up in TFA? I'm sort of half-convinced they're the Praetorian Guard in Snoke's chamber. - I know Benicio Del Toro's character is named 'DJ,' but was his name ever explicitly stated? - I thought the humor in the film was a nice touch, but the only part of any of it that came across as too much 'Avengers-like' was the Poe/Hux interaction in the very beginning. The rest seemed pretty natural and not egregiously out of character for anyone. - The silliest bit of inconsistency was the whole drama of needing a slicer to get through a single door on a ship. How many ships has R2-D2 virtually reprogrammed, including a Death Star, and Rose and Finn needed this hacker guy suddenly? That was obviously convenient to the plot, but seemed like nonsense given what we've seen time and time again. Unless the First Order got wise and thought, "hey, let's not install a port every 15 feet where hostile droids might gently caress with us." At which point I'd drop this thought altogether. - Adam Driver really doesn't get enough credit for his acting in the series so far. I think Kylo Ren is an outstanding villain. He's just threatening enough to feel like a credible threat, and he really nails how I'd imagine a 30ish year old with a red-hot temper and control issues would manage his authority.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:26
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Coruscant got blown up . It seems the resistance is getting less popular as it goes and the first order succeeds.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:28
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Next year's Star Wars Gaiden is the Han Solo movie right? Then (presumably) IX in 2019? I'm rewatching Rogue One right now and while I didn't love this movie I would like more movies that take place post PT/pre OT, not focused on one of the main characters.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:28
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9 is in exactly 2 years from now.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:31
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Why did somebody say "Godspeed" in a Star Wars?
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Dec 18, 2017 04:33
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dr. ellen grant saying godspeed before she space jihaded through the star destroyers was the biggest one for me
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Dec 18, 2017 04:34
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ATP_Power posted:Why did somebody say "Godspeed" in a Star Wars? Why not? Do you think it’s weird that there’s more than one religion in the world?
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Dec 18, 2017 04:34
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euphronius posted:Coruscant got blown up . It seems the resistance is getting less popular as it goes and the first order succeeds. when did coruscant get blown up? was it one of the no name planets that all got blown up in the sky over thepirate bar? why did no one mention that? is it in one of the OFFICIAL MOVIE TIE IN books lmao
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Dec 18, 2017 04:35
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euphronius posted:Coruscant got blown up . It seems the resistance is getting less popular as it goes and the first order succeeds. All the planets blown up with Starkiller were in a different system.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:36
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Maybe she believed in a god.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:36
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tadashi posted:All the planets blown up with Starkiller were in a different system. Close enough That's where the republic capital was. Coruscant if it exists isn't important anymore .
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Dec 18, 2017 04:37
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ATP_Power posted:Why did somebody say "Godspeed" in a Star Wars? "Your Tauntaun will freeze before you reach the first marker!" "Then I'll see you in Hell!"
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Dec 18, 2017 04:40
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phasma is gonna be a robot in star wars 9
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Dec 18, 2017 04:42
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Doronin posted:- The subversion of expectation and wish fulfillment is something I genuinely appreciate. I like that Rey is literally from nothing, and I hope they stick to that. It does get old when everyone seems to be someone else or related to someone important all the time, and she is just Rey. Unconnected. Same with Snoke. I'm kind of glad we were spared a shitload of additional exposition. I thought the movie was a quite decent Star War, and what quibbles I have I'm willing to forgive if for no other reason than taking a huge poo poo in this JJ Abrams ~puzzle box~. I was one of the ones who speculated up and down that Rey was a Skywalker. I couldn't be more glad with the reveal they made her a nobody who was special because of who she decided to be instead of who she was born to be. That The Force isn't simply a supernatural caste of haves to lord over the have nots. One of the things that always rubbed me a little raw on a deep, thematic level with Star Wars as a lefty lefterson is how at it's core it was a story about dynastic power: Nobody matters, nobody has true political or moral agency in the story unless they are part of a small number of supernaturally gifted bloodlines. Everybody in the galaxy is at the whim of the Noblesse Oblige of the Jedi. TLJ explicitly, textually rejects that. Rey comes from nobodies. And instead of ending on the final shot of all the Big Important Heroes, it goes on to return to a nobody stablehand kid getting a Skywalker shot with the implication he was going to grow to join the Resistance and make a difference, too. That the story of galactic revolution is as much about every individual, countless fist raised in defiance as the Princesses and Space Wizard Dynasties. I'm reminded of a passage from Vonnegut: "The visitor from outer space made a gift to the Earth of a new Gospel. In it, Jesus really was a nobody, and a pain in the neck to a lot of people with better connections than he had. He still got to say all the lovely and puzzling things he said in the other Gospels. So the people amused themselves one day by nailing him to a cross and planting the cross in the ground. There couldn’t possibly be any repercussions, the lynchers thought. The reader would have to think that, too, since the new Gospel hammered home again and again what a nobody Jesus was. And then, just before the nobody died, the heavens opened up, and there was thunder and lightning. The voice of God came crashing down. He told the people that he was adopting the bum as his son, giving him the full powers and privileges of The Son of the Creator of the Universe throughout all eternity. God said this: 'From this moment on, He will punish horribly anybody who torments a bum who has no connections.'" ATP_Power posted:Why did somebody say "Godspeed" in a Star Wars? Because it's a big galaxy and maybe some of the folks in it got Gods. Or because it's a diagetic choice for a movie that takes place in a fantasy universe with a different culture but is made for a mainstream Earth audience. So she actually says a common saying wishing them the luck of the Space Whales of the Unvalla 7 System, and that's how it translates for us. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Dec 18, 2017 |
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Dec 18, 2017 04:42
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trash person posted:Next year's Star Wars Gaiden is the Han Solo movie right? Then (presumably) IX in 2019? What I’d prefer is more stuff set in literally any other timeframe. We’ve had the OT, Rebels, Rogue One and now Solo. I’d like to see something else get explored.
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Dec 18, 2017 04:43
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Doronin posted:
I know people hate "it was bad on purpose" but the whole plan was intentionally supposed to be an ocean 11s style hammer trying to hit a "we will just leave in the transports, we aren't even in any danger, we got a whole planet and everything right down the road" nail. There is like 50 ways it could have been a better plan, but the point was that it was a super half baked bad plan the guy thinking they are the action movie hero thought up.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Why not? Do you think it’s weird that there’s more than one religion in the world? I'm not saying it was a good line but there is a Church of the Force that exists in Star Wars now. Pablo says it's the religion of the guy who gave the map to Poe and Lucas came up with the idea for Underworld before it got canned (or did it?) Also, Han says "I'll see you in hell" in the original trilogy. I'm ok if there are sayings that are just old sayings in the Star Wars universe but I don't see why "May the Force be with you" wasn't enough for the situation. Owlofcreamcheese posted:I know people hate "it was bad on purpose" but the whole plan was intentionally supposed to be an ocean 11s style hammer trying to hit a "we will just leave in the transports, we aren't even in any danger, we got a whole planet and everything right down the road" nail. There is like 50 ways it could have been a better plan, but the point was that it was a super half baked bad plan the guy thinking they are the action movie hero thought up. Am I wrong or wasn't it DJ who told the FO about the stealh ships plan? So the only reason that this all got hosed up was because Poe's team on the Star Destroyer was in touch with Poe and so DJ knew what they knew. If they had all stayed put, the Vice Admiral's plan would have worked? I think it was also nice to have a movie where the hero's plan doesn't work out for a change. tadashi fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Dec 18, 2017 |
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