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D_Smart posted:I am hearing that they have full intentions of doing so, though most of the devs are firmly against it. So worst case scenario, it's an open PTU to all, instead of making plebs pay via sub for a game already loving funding. That gets me every time. The idea that we get a 1 year anniversary of 3.0 being late is equally amusing to me E: this page lacks a catte 
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There's no way they aren't going to free the trainwreck for the Holiday sale. That would be so out of character for CIG.
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Toops posted:Wait, WHAT You didn't know this? Holy poo poo man it was the worst!
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Latin Pheonix posted:I told them that all they needed was a big sweaty tumble to get over their differences what are the chances of a sweaty tumble being part of a CIG/CryTek settlement?
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alphabettitouretti posted:The financial side of things looks like a headfuck for the lawyers. If CIG is told to pay royalties could they legitimately argue they've not actually made any money yet? Licensing fees would depend on negotiations. Since there was no GLA to cover SQ42, that means no such thing exists. Obviously this is where CryTek gets the upperhand because they can negotiate on very favorable terms if they win the case in this particular claim. They are not asking for money on the GLA they signed for Star Citizen, as that's already paid up. They are asking for damages on the two breaches (IP, contract), neither of which has anything to do with royalties. Now, if they DO settle (IMO it's a slim to none change of happening), then they could do cash plus backend royalties kind of thing. I personally hope they settle because I want them to crash and burn as we've been expecting, without there being a cloud that CryTek was the cause, regardless of whether or not the case went to trial or settled. ----------------
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I finally caught up with the thread! And just in time for the ELE no less.Spiderdrake posted:I'm sure you guys have all discussed this to death, so I've tried to understand this thread without looking at more wikipedia pages, since the weird jumble of marketing speak and bizarre half-finished ideas makes my head ache or asking endless stupid questions since most of the answers are "no, they are that inept". In my ignorance I naively assumed based on tone and context that Pusher was the thread complaining about a emotionless robot in the cutscenes that pushed the ships around on the flight deck. I could completely envision that, within the context of Star Citizen, the game would be designed around watching a robot push ships around. Now I'm thinking of how there was literally a bulldozer in the godawful Wing Commander movie to push ships off the deck (that fell downwards despite, you know, space) in one of the most 'dramatic' scenes. Kind of funny that of the people involved in making that movie, Freddie Prinze Jr. has had more success going forward than Roberts himself.
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Combat Theory posted:The idea that we get a 1 year anniversary of 3.0 being late is equally amusing to me I know, right? It's so loving hilarious to me when I look back and remember when sources told me, and I wrote that, it DID NOT loving EXIST. And backers were all like "gently caress him, he doesn't know poo poo! Oh, and croberts didn't promise anything for Dec 2016" Good times 
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Solarin posted:what are the chances of a sweaty tumble being part of a CIG/CryTek settlement? Brb writing my CIG/Crytek slashfic.
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D_Smart posted:I personally hope they settle because I want them to crash and burn as we've been expecting, without there being a cloud that CryTek was the cause, regardless of whether or not the case went to trial or settled. Oh come on now, Derek, you and I both know that the backers will try to pin any failure of SC on this lawsuit now. "Ugh, SC would have been fine if CIG hadn't had to pay Crytek out of court, it's all Crytek's fault!" Even if CIG miraculously won the lawsuit and somehow got full costs, they'd still find a way to pin the blame on this lawsuit, likely something like "the lawsuit distracted them too much!" or something equally asinine.
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FailureToReport posted:There's no way they aren't going to free the trainwreck for the Holiday sale. That would be so out of character for CIG. Yes, that's true it would be out of character. However things have never been this bad before. Thebaseradio channel, a core temple of the faithful and a member of CIG gets called out live on air. https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousAmazonianManateeOSsloth
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Latin Pheonix posted:Oh come on now, Derek, you and I both know that the backers will try to pin any failure of SC on this lawsuit now. Yeah true; and the mental gymnastics are going to be amazing. ----------------
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D_Smart posted:I want them to crash and burn as we've been expecting, without there being a cloud that CryTek was the cause, regardless of whether or not the case went to trial or settled. It's already too late. Crytek could be bought by Amazon tomorrow and "stress from the crytek lawsuit" would be pointed to as the reason SC fails.
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drat with that hobo saying that SC/SQ42 always were two different games that would mean that CIG would have to pay licensing for every reservation made, not just the ones from the split.
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D_Smart posted:Shocking if you ask me. I did this almost a year ago, as an exercise on how to work with text files in c++:  user and traffic in the old (pre-spectrum) chat system, the trending curves are realy nice. The graph stops a bit before spectrum preview started. I considered doing the same for spectrum, but  setting up a logging bot for something that's dying anyway prevented me from doing it, but I really wonder what the stats there look like right now.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:drat with that hobo saying that SC/SQ42 always were two different games that would mean that CIG would have to pay licensing for every reservation made, not just the ones from the split. No, that's not how that works. If they settle, or the they go to trial and the jury rules in their favor, then it's just a licensing fee to cover SQ42. The damages are a much - much - bigger issue. ----------------
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no_recall posted:One last one before the year ends. Wanpipdy! Lol
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The Titanic posted:Probably the really best part is that nobody really wants Squadron 42. Nobody except Chris Roberts anyway and maybe like 12 backers. Everybody else is buying stuff for Star Citizen. I beg to disagree. SQ42 is the last hope I have to play a half-decent game from this "company". No 8-minutes long quantum drive loading screen, no downtime, no grinding, no other players to "antagoonize" you, no other players = better framerate, etc.. Yeah, I'm still dreaming.
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Just heard about the lawsuit. Interestingly it would seem like neither company has enough money for any kind of prolonged legal action. Maybe the law firm is hoping to get some sweet Amazon dollars out of this? I just imagine Amazon using CIG the way Arnold uses the guy on the escalator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icuJc2LxfGM&t=78s Maybe we will see a Bengal sale?
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Nyast posted:I beg to disagree. SQ42 is the last hope I have to play a half-decent game from this "company". No 8-minutes long quantum drive loading screen, no downtime, no grinding, no other players to "antagoonize" you, no other players = better framerate, etc.. all dreams, not just sq42 related.
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Sillybones posted:Wait... Sandi Gardiner is part of the starring cast? Look how she is positioned at the very edge ? That's for an easy cut.
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TheAgent posted:just $3m more to make this year and it'll be the best year ever at CIG! It’s a Christmas miracle!
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The Titanic posted:Probably the really best part is that nobody really wants Squadron 42. Nobody except Chris Roberts anyway and maybe like 12 backers. Everybody else is buying stuff for Star Citizen. Star Citizen's original Thing was a primarily-singleplayer game, effectively "what Elite Dangerous became" with but with a single-player campaign in front of the sandbox post-game. I would not disagree that at this point everyone who wanted that game has refunded or left in the face of the MMO-but-not-really it's become, but don't forget that what a lot of people wanted in the first place was "Tie Fighter but with 2010+ graphics", and the drop in coop and local multiplayer were just unnecessary gravy for the people like B'tak who never play online multiplayer anyways. e: Speaking of dreams, even thinking about that again just makes me depressed because that's legitimately what I'd like to see. Instead, I'll probably boot up Elite Dangerous and have some fun flying around and pretending like there's a coherent, playable single-player plot for an hour or two. 
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Sillybones posted:No, no. I knew they put her name on that up high and centre. What I didn't expect was that she actually had beyond a mission briefing bit part or something similar. I thought they might have a bit more sense than that. See friend, this is where the animation department and audio department need to kick it into full burn. Some courageous people need to take all this Sandi data, and transform it into an AAA grade performance. So now that you realize that, it may be more understandable why Sq42 is so late. They have an almost impossible task, and you drat well know Sandi and Chris are breathing down their neck to see something amazing from her data. Those guys and girls probably have ulcers the size of Nebraska.
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BeigeJacket posted:How bad is the new Star Wars? apparently it's disney cuck sjw propaganda, so i'm assuming it's good.
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Toops posted:I've effortposted about this before so I'll keep it brief. The correct answer is, "whoever owns the Star Citizen user data." And even better, captcha was defeated years ago, meaning those numbers are entirely bullshit.
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BeigeJacket posted:How bad is the new Star Wars? There is a new jarjar/ewoks called porgs
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no_recall posted:We will finally get to see their financials. I wouldn't be surprised if they do everything possible to keep that from being public.
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EminusSleepus posted:There is a new jarjar/ewoks called porgs Good. They’re children’s films.
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Can one of you weirdos post a greatest hits of the whole "Sandi Tickle Porn" saga? The shops and gifs and whatnot are maybe the funniest thing I have ever seen on this forum, and there's no loving way I could ever find it again between 2(?) multi-thousand page threads. Thanks in advance I love you -Gramps PS- I got Permabanned from WTFO's channel right when all that poo poo was going on for literally having the word tickle in a sentence I posted in his chat. Still makes me smile when I occasionally pop in there to gently caress around and realize I'm still bant.
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