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Filthy Monkey posted:I definitely was picking up the increased polymorph duration talent. With most heroes, your CC is more about timing than duration or engaging. You sound like you're doing the exact right timing for a gank - once they're over extended - but you don't need to open up with a charge. You'll likely be mounted and have a bush approach that's sneaky, so you can just stroll up, hamstring, and start swinging. Then they'll try to leave, but ho hey you still have your charge and your hamstring is off cooldown. With BW, wait until the hyper carry is out of position, maybe after they've engaged and popped an ult. Sounds like you're learning well. BW depends on her build quite a lot, so def check out hotslogs for her shield (Z) build vs. her bribe / pixie build.
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I think most of the Brightwingpoints have been covered, but I'd like to note you can Blink Heal to minions so you can use it as an escape, or alternatively use it to catch up to allies and help secure a kill. You can also Z to Misha (important knowledge)!
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Seebach posted:Win or lose I’m having too much fun as Hanjo Same here, honestly. And it has been about two losses per win so far, but so much drat fun.
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what did they do to leoric my precious skellybonk boi he's so fragile now
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He's always been easy to burst down. Unless you are getting healed or late game
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The one thing I hate about cursed hollow is if the stars align right for a team you can lose like 5 structures and go down 4 levels in 45 seconds. And this is at the 10 minute mark. You can argue that if you win 3 straight tributes and get boss at the right time you deserve that huge bonus, but it can be such a chain effect. Like oh, they're going to hit level 10, 15 seconds before us and this is curse trib. Guess they get curse and boss and everything.
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Nova is loving broken. This isn't healthy.
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Everyone thinks the new stealth heroes are OP except Samuro. Poor Samuro.
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Samuro feels better to play now at least.
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Had some dude first pick Tyrande who waited 1 min into the game to start going 'gg no damage'. When I pointed out that he's the damage he got mad and said he's the healer. He ended with half the healing of a Tassadar and less damage than anyone. Although Tass seems like a bad 2nd support when Tyrande is already picked.
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What was the rest of the group
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Seebach posted:Nova is loving broken. This isn't healthy. Except if you're on Towers and they act like a bot and never join team fights or grab empty altars while the opponent team is engaged elsewhere. ...ask me how my placement matches are going.
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I think I actually have a good idea of how they’re going
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Seebach posted:What was the rest of the group We went: Tyrande, Artanis, Hanzo, Tass, Anub (me). Enemies went: KT, Arthas, Jaina, Naz, Auriel. On spider queen. Figured swaps on my stuns would work out but nothing did. edit: just had it happen again, no healer or tank coming in to the final picks, dude slam picks tassadar so i get to choose between no healer or no tank...unranked draft is real wonky today. appropriatemetaphor fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Dec 18, 2017 |
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In that situation I think you should pick a healer. It's more important than tank. Or go both with holy shock Uther. 
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I got two more free heroes to five today on my newbie quest. Kael'Thas - Reasonably fun. Won 4/7 of the games it took me to get to 5. I like that he has some waveclear, though he is definitely squishy. I couldn't find any actual sustain in his tree. I was going for the convection quest, which while useful, does seem like kind of a gamble. Most games I was able to complete it, but I always had to play extremely conservatively until it was done. Pyroblast is a fun ultimate, and definitely nabbed me some kills, but I am not sure it is a favorite. Overall though, when it comes to mages I think like Gul'dan more for his sustain mechanics. Gul'dan's ultimate seems better for those late-game teamfights too. Sgt. Hammer - Won 3/6 matches it took to get to 5. Very much a different type of hero. I went with an auto-attack focused siege build, as it seemed to be the most common on hotslogs. I like the sustain that heal on auto-attack brings a lot. Good at clearing waves. The lack of mobility is rough though, and can definitely lead to trouble. When I was playing Kael'Thas, I did a lot of double convection flamestriking opposing hammers. Likewise, I found playing vs the butcher a challenge. It is easy to do damage solo in a lane if the enemy doesn't contest you well. I do like her giant cannon shell ultimate quite a decent bit. In the last game I played, I managed to kill two two enemies directly with it in a teamfight, and weaken the third enough to be finished off by a couple autoattacks. Overall though, I don't see either one of those heroes as being favorites of mine. Of the assassins I've leveled, I do prefer Butcher, Lunara, Greymane, and Gul'dan to both of them.
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Filthy Monkey posted:I got two more free heroes to five today on my newbie quest. KT is a terror at bronze-silver because people don't dodge flamestrikes and constantly spread living bombs.
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Gobbeldygook posted:KT is a terror at bronze-silver because people don't dodge flamestrikes and constantly spread living bombs. This is not unique to Bronze/Silver.
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Started off this 3rd placement session 6-0. Hopefully they won't reset this one too, cause in in for a good rank boost 
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Filthy Monkey posted:I got two more free heroes to five today on my newbie quest. To be fair Gul'Dan is like a top tier mage, he's one of those characters that...I don't know if I'd say you can slampick him into everything, but off the top of my head it's hard to think of a situation where you'd be unhappy if he was one of your DPS picks. He's got phenomenal waveclear, great damage if you can land Corruption bursts, high sustain that means you rarely if ever have to hearth if you play your cards right, and a game-changing ult.
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Pyroblast is KevinThas's worse ult, I think. The area denial and push potential that Phoenix offers is too good to ignore. All PB does is damage, and Kael'Thas is already pretty good at that. However, other than D-buffing his Q's or E's, he doesn't have a lot of area control. Phoenix is the king of keeping an area secure from melee attackers, and wouldn't you know it, there's a lot of areas that you'd like to keep secure in most maps. Also, Mana Addict or his other Level 1 Talent are what you want ,not Convection. Fan puts it better than I can, but 4% damage is always going to be there for you, whereas it's going to take you a while to build up Flamestrike. While Fury of the Sunwell Convection talented Q's are strong, it takes a long time for him to get there, when otherwise he could be contributing damage throughout the game without the threat of being ganked one hit away from popping the quest.
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Bogart posted:Pyroblast is KevinThas's worse ult, I think. The area denial and push potential that Phoenix offers is too good to ignore. All PB does is damage, and Kael'Thas is already pretty good at that. However, other than D-buffing his Q's or E's, he doesn't have a lot of area control. Phoenix is the king of keeping an area secure from melee attackers, and wouldn't you know it, there's a lot of areas that you'd like to keep secure in most maps. Also, Mana Addict or his other Level 1 Talent are what you want ,not Convection. Fan puts it better than I can, but 4% damage is always going to be there for you, whereas it's going to take you a while to build up Flamestrike. While Fury of the Sunwell Convection talented Q's are strong, it takes a long time for him to get there, when otherwise he could be contributing damage throughout the game without the threat of being ganked one hit away from popping the quest. yeah but on the other hand pyroblast is a button that feels REALLY good to press
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Sindai posted:In that situation I think you should pick a healer. It's more important than tank. Yeah, in the next game in basically the same situation we went: Valla, Rexxar, Illidan, Tassadar. I had Arthas highlighted since the other team had a Kharazim solo healing and a greymane. But the dude went from highlighting nothing to suddenly picking Tass so I went with Malfurian. Ended up winning. I checked hotslogs because I've been having real wonky UD games, like people just not knowing what the characters even are. I know their mmr thing is bs, but it's got me at 1200 points above the tass guy and 300-500 above everyone else in the screwy games. Guess it's just start of the season strangeness.
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SirSamVimes posted:yeah but on the other hand pyroblast is a button that feels REALLY good to press It's always fun to just say "gently caress you" to someone and have them deleted
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Bogart posted:Also, Mana Addict or his other Level 1 Talent are what you want ,not Convection. Fan puts it better than I can, but 4% damage is always going to be there for you, whereas it's going to take you a while to build up Flamestrike. Spudd posted:It's always fun to just say "gently caress you" to someone and have them deleted (ahem, ice block protected blink-disjoint shield recall any spell armor+ any general armor+ bubble wraith walk burrow bye bye* ogre shield probably others?), or if the enemy team has a healer that can do likewise. It's a bad ult 90% of team comps. *okay time out is better here but I included that in ice block
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If you play mostly QM then you will have at least 2 good targets for Pyroblast every game guaranteed.
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Was in a game yesterday with an enemy Nova wreaking havoc on us, and our Abathur would not let it go that "Nova hasn't changed." "I don't know what you guys are complaining about, Nova is exactly the same." "Her kit hasn't changed at all, she's the same." "Zera and Valeera are scary now, Nova is the same character."
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Bogart posted:Pyroblast is KevinThas's worse ult, I think. The area denial and push potential that Phoenix offers is too good to ignore. All PB does is damage, and Kael'Thas is already pretty good at that. However, other than D-buffing his Q's or E's, he doesn't have a lot of area control. Phoenix is the king of keeping an area secure from melee attackers, and wouldn't you know it, there's a lot of areas that you'd like to keep secure in most maps. Also, Mana Addict or his other Level 1 Talent are what you want ,not Convection. Fan puts it better than I can, but 4% damage is always going to be there for you, whereas it's going to take you a while to build up Flamestrike. While Fury of the Sunwell Convection talented Q's are strong, it takes a long time for him to get there, when otherwise he could be contributing damage throughout the game without the threat of being ganked one hit away from popping the quest. I think Phoenix is better in 90% of the games but I've seen games where Kael had a lot of soft enemy targets, no hard interrupts on the Pyro (like Medivh shield, or Tass escape, or anything), or hard burst healing and he just orders up kills with that thing like he's got an appetizer menu in front of him and it's so demoralizing.
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In that same vein it feels so loving good to pyroblast a valla kt Gul’dan etc when they think they have gotten away
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Someone was mean i game to me and my team. Then they sent an angry pm and called me a slur! Who does that!?
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Charles Bukowski posted:Someone was mean i game to me and my team. Then they sent an angry pm and called me a slur! Who does that!? You're playing against moba players
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Charles Bukowski posted:Someone was mean i game to me and my team. Then they sent an angry pm and called me a slur! Who does that!? https://youtu.be/6jQkxsEbnS4
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Didn't they make blink disjointing pyro no longer possible?
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I did it about 5 weeks ago, and I don't remember reading anything about it since then.
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oh great, a brawl that takes 30+ min. great fun.
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SirSamVimes posted:Didn't they make blink disjointing pyro no longer possible? I did it on Muradin a few days ago. It's been a mechanic in Dota forever, so I don't think they would delete it now.
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What counts as a Versus AI Game? I got the quest yesterday to play 3 games versus AI (just started playing), did three games under the Versus AI tab on the top left, set to Co-op and Adept difficult (default options) but none of them counted for the quest.
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nessin posted:What counts as a Versus AI Game? I got the quest yesterday to play 3 games versus AI (just started playing), did three games under the Versus AI tab on the top left, set to Co-op and Adept difficult (default options) but none of them counted for the quest. https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/7kcxk4/with_the_versus_ai_quest_being_bugged_for_months/
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You do get legitimate vs AI quests on a new account but coop should certainly count for those. I guess you're just one of the lucky few.
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