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Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
The algae bloom has come back with a vengeance. This time round I think I’ll make the tank dark for a few days to kill it off. I didn’t even dose ferts after the last water change. I’ll reprogram the lights as well so that they’re on less when they go back on to help keep things under control

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Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


My julies have been thriving since I moved them out of their own 20g tank and into the planted 55g community, and last night we found little fry swimming around. I tried to get some pics, but as soon as the camera came out mama and papa escorted them into hiding. So here's some pics of some other fish in that tank instead.


male boesemani rainbow


female congo tetra


bronze cory


male turquoise rainbow


female turquoise rainbow

CrashScreen
Nov 11, 2012

Introducing the shubunkin went really well. He disappeared into the ceramic tunnel the moment he was put into the water, and our other two knew something was up and started exploring together. It was pretty neat. The shubunkin just watched them pass by a couple of times before he slowly came out and then started swimming with them. It's my first time introducing fish and it's such a nice little thing.

Sadly, the past week has been a little rough. I quarantined him, but wasn't around much to keep an eye on the other two. Someone else had to tell me they were showing signs of flukes, but I was only told after I introduced the shubunkin. The little guy got the worst of it and injured himself pretty bad by flashing against the filter and gravel. It's lead to a cotton wool, so I'm currently scrambling to set something up. It's pretty rough with the other, large aquarium inaccessible right now. The other option is a 15 litre.

e: Got the tank situation fixed.

CrashScreen fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Dec 22, 2017

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Oh god help me my tank is being overrun with brown algae. Everything I've read suggests it's normal during the cycling process, but my tank has been cycled for over a month and it's just now taking hold. I've been changing water and scrubbing\vacuuming it every day but it is ceaseless. What critters eat this stuff?

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

Shrimps and otos if it’s the flat soft powdery brown algae that scrapes off easy. My rosy barbs also love it and follow the scraper, hoovering up the pieces that scrape off when I clean. There’s a fluffy brown algae too, not sure if anything eats that if that’s what you have, and if it’s brown sheets which rapidly coat everything and kind of lifts off, that’s some kind of Cyanobacteria and nothing really eats that gunk. Where are you seeing it? If it’s the first one I mentioned, that stuff is really diatoms not algae and it should wipe off the glass easily. If you are seeing it on your light coloured substrate you can stir it around so it looks better. The fluffy kind I don’t know too much about, I do get it on some of my plants, at the bottom of a poorly lit deep tank. So I don’t think that one is from excess light, more likely to grow from excess nutrients or lack of correct nutrients for the plants. If you have Cyanobacteria I think you didn’t do anything wrong, you just got unlucky. You have to manually remove that. You can kill it with antibiotics but it could come back.

PS great clear pics, Enos Cabell, I love those rainbows!

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Yes, it's very powdery and scrubs right off with a soft toothbrush. There's not really any on the substrate, but my Corys are probably keeping it stirred up. It's on the glass, decorations, and plants. I think it must be diatoms. If ottos and shrimp eat it, then I know what I'm stocking next.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

Shrimp (neos) will pick over anything edible and are true scavengers, and should be fine but if you get otos, plan ahead for what you’re going to feed them when the algae runs out. Brown algae is temporary and otos can live a long time if they don’t starve!

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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Will they eat the algae wafers that I feed my Corys or do they specifically need live veggies? I have a spare 10 gallon, I was actually thinking about this the other day, I could start a little algae farm in it.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

Should I feed my otos fresh zucchini or cooked zucchini? There's not enough algae in my tank for the otos and shrimp to eat, and mine never touch the algae wafers (not that they ever get a chance to, because the shrimp and the bettas get there first).

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

Luneshot posted:

Should I feed my otos fresh zucchini or cooked zucchini? There's not enough algae in my tank for the otos and shrimp to eat, and mine never touch the algae wafers (not that they ever get a chance to, because the shrimp and the bettas get there first).

Cooked zucchini sinks and my oto’s will eat it when it’s mushy but will leave it for a day or so if it’s not quite to their liking

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

Kibbles n Shits posted:

Will they eat the algae wafers that I feed my Corys or do they specifically need live veggies? I have a spare 10 gallon, I was actually thinking about this the other day, I could start a little algae farm in it.

That’s one of the recommended ways to keep up a supply of algae, have some loose smooth rocks and leave them in a brightly lit aquarium or even a tub on the window sill getting full sunlight, loose anubias would probably work too since their leaves will collect algae no problems. Swap them out once the otos have eaten all the algae. Some people have been able to get their otos to eat wafers, so far mine won’t touch them but I guess it depends on what brands are available to you. They prefer soft mushy semi rotten veges to raw as far as I know but it will depend on your otos. Using a vegetable clip or weight you can keep the food contained or sunken. I think they have investigated whether otos eat anything else and samples taken from in the wild where they would have had many options for food it seems like their stomachs only ever contained algae. Algae wafers often have fishmeal which might be why the otos don’t like them. Similarly if you are getting repashy food gel, there are varieties which have all plant matter like SuperGreen flavour, and ones that have other components such as the BottomScratcher flavour. I think that’s the right name? Pretty much can only get the purely vegetable ones here because the others that have insect and crustacean matter so far hasn’t been allowed through customs as far as I know. The webstores I buy from have had other flavours listed as “coming soon” for years now.

I tried cooked carrot, as well as zucchini and cucumber and I did see the otos resting on the carrot but not sure if they actually ate any of it. Someone did but it could have been snails or shrimp. Cucumber seems to go slimy and gross really quickly, zucchini seems to be more fibrous.

Stoca Zola fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Dec 19, 2017

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
I've been chasing a pretty decent algae bloom since sometime last week. Did a water change but it came back worse. Did a 60% water change yesterday and made sure the tank was covered with the lights off most of today. It hasn't gotten any worse which is a good sign but I think the room the tank is in is getting quite a bit of sun during the day and thats not something that will go unless I get blinds or wait it out with the tank covered until the sun stops being where it currently is.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

Is it just a greenwater algae bloom? Those are harmless pretty much, but there has to be some nutrient in the water to power those, I don't think light alone is enough. Well who knows, I've only ever seen greenwater in the jars on my windowsill so maybe sunlight really is the issue. If its hair algae thats pretty much definitely too much light, not enough fast growing plants/fertilizer for those plants. You could peg a cloth on the sides of the tank that are getting the most light maybe? The water sprite my neighbour gave me the other day is growing ridiculously fast so if you need something to soak up nutrients and block light and be not duckweed, I think floating water sprite is pretty cool and useful.

So the insurance contractor is sending a legally blind guy to our place tomorrow to look at the damage to my tank and write a damage report, I guess? I don't really know what to think. I wrote a post about this earlier but a windows update closed my tab and ate my post. It's a guy I know from ages ago, played descent against him when we were youthful teens in the 90s and he had to have his face literally 1 inch away from the monitor to see what was going on. To be fair, since then he has made a career and a reputation for himself as being one of the best carpet cleaners in the town, so of course the contractor is a carpet company, they've finally got hold of a local carpet guy to come and look, and in a way I'm glad its someone I kind of know; he's a decent enough guy. But I really don't get what the whole point of sending carpet people around is, do they think the carpet climbed into my tank and broke it? I don't mean to be ableist but I don't really know how fair it is having something like that looked at by someone who as far as I know can't see very well at all. Maybe the idea is to get an estimade for if the tank did break, how much carpet could it damage. I just don't get it. Wonder what exactly they told him he had to do?? Will find out tomorrow I guess.

I've got some plans for how I want to lay out the new tank, probably going to put the heavy root feeders in root-tabbed eco complete, in two planted zones and have a lot of open sand areas with rockpiles and driftwood away from the plants. I've also been thinking about how to make some ledges and ramps out of acrylic to build a crayfish habitat with a higher surface area, more territory and hopefully to allow more of them to peacefully coexist. I've got easily 15+ at the moment, all different sizes, and I haven't seen them eating each other but I am mindful that the territory they have is a total jumbled mess. I consider the guppy tank experiment a failure, they didn't do well in there at all and I think its because the guppies harrassed them and ate their food.

It's just been kind of hard lately to feel motivated to keep up with all the maintenance I need to do. Oh hey I remember, I put the sand from the quarantine in the oven to sterilise and forgot to take it out, I bet that's nice and sterile by now! 2 hours at 120ºC maybe hot enough? It smelled like dead snails a bit because it had been standing in a bucket full of water since october, and I rinsed it and got a ton of cloudy water out of it, probably will still rinse it again post baking before reusing.

Stoca Zola fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Dec 19, 2017

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

Stoca Zola posted:

Is it just a greenwater algae bloom? Those are harmless pretty much, but there has to be some nutrient in the water to power those, I don't think light alone is enough. Well who knows, I've only ever seen greenwater in the jars on my windowsill so maybe sunlight really is the issue. If its hair algae thats pretty much definitely too much light, not enough fast growing plants/fertilizer for those plants. You could peg a cloth on the sides of the tank that are getting the most light maybe? The water sprite my neighbour gave me the other day is growing ridiculously fast so if you need something to soak up nutrients and block light and be not duckweed, I think floating water sprite is pretty cool and useful.

I started dosing a little phosphate a couple of weeks ago so I think that in combination with the light cause the green water to really take off. It's still a little green but seems to be fading as time goes on and the amount of light is limited. Most of the shrimp have had a moult recently but I've still got the berried ones kicking around the tank. I don't think there are any shrimplets as yet because I haven't seen any so far.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

That would do it! I think you only need a very small amount of phosphate and algae loves it which is why we're supposed to use low phosphate detergents etc so we don't poo poo up everything with algae.

Got a new pump in the mail! Looks a lot safer and less fiddly than the old fry murdering one (not sure if I posted about that). I left it running in a drum of old tank water hopefully to wash the sponges of residue, hope it didn't slip and squirt water all over the floor.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
It did make the plants look pretty excellent though. I may wait until I get potassium before I bother trying it once again.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

What were you using as your phosphate source? My plants have the pinhole manganese deficiency look about them, but thats on me for forgetting to put the fertilizer drops in daily - they get it weekly if they're lucky. And just checking, this liquid fert has no phosphate, so I think its definitely something to keep very controlled and add only in a restricted way when needed.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
It was seachems phosphate fertilizer cause the plants where showing signs of deficiency which seemed to hold true when the growth looked a whole bunch greener. I still plan on getting potassium seeing as it’s the hardest thing to find in Aus for making up feet mixes of my own. Everything other than potassium nitrate is freely available and when I run out of trace mix along with iron I’ll buy powdered and mix my own.
I thought earlier I’d lost big mumma who is my biggest berried shrimp. All she did is moult so I hope the eggs are still intact. What I found was the shell and the boys where swimming around like crazy after

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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I feel like dropping some money on a better light. I'm currently rocking a UraruJoey inspired DIY LED strip which looks nice and was pretty inexpensive, but I want some more plant growing power. I'm looking to grow anacharis, pennywort, maybe some swords and vals. I'm also thinking of going with a DIY CO2 solution at some point, so a light that is sufficient for a CO2 tank would be nice. Is there a beamswork or similar light that will get the job done or should I go straight to a Planted 24/Fugeray/Similar? It's a 29 gallon tank, so fairly deep. What's the difference between the Fugeray, Planted+, Planted 24/7 anyways?

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 4 days!
I'm going to be leaving the house for the entirety of next week. All I have is a planted tank with a few little shrimp in it (5 little RCS and 3 large Japanese Algae Eating). I usually feed them a hefty pinch of fish food every couple of days, can I kill them by leaving a large source of food in there?

Anyone got any recommendations for some vacation food for a shrimp tank? I've seen the little blocks of food for fish but I'm not sure if they will just overeat until they die or not be able to pick it apart into smaller pieces.

One of my females just got berried this Monday so hopefully I'll come back to some little shrimplets and not a tank of death.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Dr_0ctag0n posted:

I'm going to be leaving the house for the entirety of next week. All I have is a planted tank with a few little shrimp in it (5 little RCS and 3 large Japanese Algae Eating). I usually feed them a hefty pinch of fish food every couple of days, can I kill them by leaving a large source of food in there?

Anyone got any recommendations for some vacation food for a shrimp tank? I've seen the little blocks of food for fish but I'm not sure if they will just overeat until they die or not be able to pick it apart into smaller pieces.

One of my females just got berried this Monday so hopefully I'll come back to some little shrimplets and not a tank of death.

I've heard a lot of stories of people coming home to a tank fouled by 7-day feeder tablets or helpful but inexperienced humans dumping in too much food. That seems to be a total shitshow.

The tank has been established for a while, yeah? Just leave the lights on to encourage algae (if there were fish I'd suggest leaving the lights off to encourage dormancy). There there should be all kinds of microscopic flora and fauna living around the plants. The shrimp should be fine living off biofilm for a week.

Or get an automatic feeder that will feed them the right amount on a programmed schedule.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

One of my females just got berried this Monday so hopefully I'll come back to some little shrimplets and not a tank of death.

In my experience it takes around 3 weeks for the shrimplets to hatch so you won’t miss out on seeing them. Agreeing that you don’t need to feed extra as that will cause more problems than it’s worth. If anything maybe a single algae wafer might be okay, since some of those are formulated to sit in water without breaking down quickly. But you don’t have many shrimp, I don’t know if they would eat it all before it goes bad.

The new pump I got yesterday is ridiculously too powerful, I had it running in a bucket and it seemed fine but putting it on the trickle filter it flooded it and filled it faster than it could drain. Seems like it would be powerful enough to fully circulate a 6 foot tank or something. I might end up using it to move water around rather than as a tank filter.

Stoca Zola fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 21, 2017

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I use tetra gel feeder blocks when I go on long trips. For that few shrimp, you can just drop in a weekend block.

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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if I wanna upgrade my filter I can just chuck my old media in the new filter and everything should be fine right? Seems straight forward to me but wanted to make sure in case there was something I wasn't considering that kills off my tank. I currently have a HOB and I'm eyeing a canister filter because I need more mechanical filtration.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Kibbles n Shits posted:

if I wanna upgrade my filter I can just chuck my old media in the new filter and everything should be fine right? Seems straight forward to me but wanted to make sure in case there was something I wasn't considering that kills off my tank. I currently have a HOB and I'm eyeing a canister filter because I need more mechanical filtration.

That should work. You could also just leave them both running for a couple weeks, the bacteria will colonize the new filter naturally.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

After a busy day of last minute Christmas preparation, a heatwave, going to my sister's house to help her put together the stand for her new tank, dinner, wrapping presents, I finally got around to feeding the fish. Straight away noticed something extremely wrong in my corydoras tank - the peacock gudgeons that also live in this tank are laying on their sides on the bottom. The rasboras are hiding. There's a couple of dead shrimp and a suspicious pile of snails with a tail sticking out of it. I lean closer to the tank to get a closer look at the snail pile - immediately could feel the heat radiating from the tank. Heater failure (again) (gently caress heaters that fail on). The thermometer, when I find it, reads 36ºC, thats around 96ºF. My pride and joy in this tank are my panda corydoras, notorious for prefering a cooler temperature, more like 22-24ºC (~75ºF). And what are they doing? snuffling around like normal, having a great time. Pushing the sideways gudgeons out of the way in their quest for morsels in the sand. So it turned out all the emerald eye rasboras are completely fine, just doing their standard hiding when the lights come on. The casualty was the unknown rasbora, and now I will never know what kind of rasbora he was. I have never got a good picture of him and my only means to describe him are to point out all the ways that he is not like an emerald eye rasbora. His eyes are slightly bigger, with no iridescense at all. Scales a little bigger too, with a slight pigment outlining each one causing a faint crisscross effect. Belly just a little deeper but that could just be an indicator that it was a female. The mostly neutral body color tending towards a faint shimmer of orange iridescense down the centre line, nothing distinct, just a blush of colour, as opposed to the yellowish tinge that the other rasboras have. No pigment in the fins aside from a single oval spot of black in the anal fin. Preference for the very very top level of the tank, rather than dipping further down as the other rasboras do. And now, I also know that it has no tolerance for overheating, unlike the other rasboras. RIP mystery rasbora, I'm sorry I killed you.

I don't know how many shrimp I've lost in total because the snails were eating them too. I've put an extra airstone and an icepack in the tank to try to lower the temperature down to something normal and perhaps revive some of the gudgeons. There was one that was completely upside down, dead-looking but when I touched him with the net he flinched. I have a particular net, one of my nicest ones with a telescopic handle and a small round nimble scoop, which has dead fish duty and all dead and dying fish get one last ride in this special net. I'm still seeing at least some gill movement in the wrecked gudgeons so no final rides for them just yet.

So that is my story about panda corydoras. They really are quite tough once they are established. I suspect there is a good chance some of mine might become ill after their ordeal, but for now they are behaving fine. The trilineatus were much the same although they don't have a particular reputation for being a cooler water species. Of course they can sip from the surface when needing extra oxygen and I am guessing this is why they seem largely unaffected by the overheating. I usually turn off all my heaters this time of year anyway, they mostly aren't necessary but with Christmas coming up it had slipped my mind.

And now for a story about guppies. I finally found a nice pump to drive the trickle filter that sits on the guppy tank. It's an aquael pat-mini, probably a touch undersized but it has the exact right size outlet to go exactly on the hose. I should have remembered the other thing that pat-minis have, and that's just enough clearance behind the filter inlet sponge for a curious guppy to post itself and get stuck. I spotted one behind there and carefully pulled the filter away to set him loose, but this caused the trickle filter hose to come off. Which was fine, it just hung in the water about an inch or two below water level. I figured out if I rotated the filter sponge so that it was diagonal to the wall of the tank, it didn't allow any zone for a guppy to become trapped in, so that done, I grabbed the hose and plugged it back into the still running filter. Only to see a guppy shoot up through the hose into the spraybar of the trickle filter. Thank crap for transparent hoses! The crazy little poo poo had swum up the 1 inch length of hose that was in the water, for no good reason apart from the spirit of guppy adventure. Luckily when I pulled the hose off, the water pressure of the water draining out of the hose was enough to wash the guppy back into the tank. I don't know if this is a normal feature of guppies or a unique behavioural trait bred into these invasive feral guppies but without fail they end up in the worst possible places for their long term survival every single opportunity they get to do so.

Looks like I have managed to drop the temperature down to 30º (86F )which is still too high but perhaps not fatally so. The filter outlet fell off while I was messing around and now the flow is breaking the surface of the water more and causing more bubbles so I'll leave it like that. I was already running 2 extra sponge filters in this tank so now there are 4 bubble sources, one in each corner of the tank, and I just have to hope the gudgeons pull through. I'm tired of dead fish. Which reminds me I better put the lid down on that tank so that the rasboras don't jump out.

CrashScreen
Nov 11, 2012

I know it's not actually that common, but I actually have a fear of something going wrong with the heaters. I've heard enough stories and it almost feels like everyone has one.

I'm hopefully finally going to add the shubunkin back to the main tank today. I've had it in a quarantine again for a few days with some methylene blue and a reasonably high dosage of salt. He's looking good, but there's no working light for that tank and its location is too low for the room's lighting, so I can't really see much through the blue dye. I'm going to transfer him over to another small tank to just get a better look and figure out what else I may need to do, but I'm still waiting on the temperature catching up to the room. Here's to delivering the shubunkin home for Christmas.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

I usually under spec my heaters so instead of 100w for 100lt I'll usually do 50w - this means that the tank won't heat up so fast that I won't notice. But this was the second heater I bought and I didn't have that idea in mind then. Every heater I've had that has failed on has been a Marina brand standard glass heater. I have had 2 resin type break proof heaters fail, one Aquael and not sure of the other brand and they both failed off. I've recently bought a bunch of floating thermometers which have a green "safe" zone clearly marked so it's easy to see when things start going wrong, I just wasn't in the house long enough that day to notice. Final death tally is 2 fish and 2 shrimp so it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

There is a way to fail safe your heater and it involves having a temperature controller and a thermocouple monitoring the water temperature. If the heater goes too high, the controller cuts the power and in effect acts instead of the internal thermostat of the heater.

I've watched a DIY video and the parts don't look too expensive so it's something I'm seriously considering now.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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Stoca Zola posted:

There is a way to fail safe your heater and it involves having a temperature controller and a thermocouple monitoring the water temperature. If the heater goes too high, the controller cuts the power and in effect acts instead of the internal thermostat of the heater.

I've watched a DIY video and the parts don't look too expensive so it's something I'm seriously considering now.

Yeah, it's not worth it if you have a 10 gallon with some guppies, but if you get to the point where replacing your fish would be hundreds of dollars it's a pretty decent insurance policy.

It's a shame it is necessary though, it couldn't possibly be that hard to make a heater that would fail safely. I guess there's no incentive since by the time they fail they are long out of warranty so the company has no financial liability.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


So it looks like I'm going to have to rehome the group of clown loaches in my 180g tank. They've coexisted peacefully with the frontosa for years, but apparently within the past few weeks the clowns have decided to start nipping their fins. Three of the largest frontosa are pretty shredded right now.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010
I dropped an algae wafer in for the shrimp yesterday but the neons decided to gobble it for the most part. Next time I might drop it in right before lights out to stop it from happening again. I don't think I'll bother feeding the fish today cause they're looking a little fat.

Kibbles n Shits
Apr 8, 2006

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I'm assuming with Anacharis I can just shove the stems down into the substrate and they'll do fine? That's what I did with my Pennywort and it is growing nicely.

Stoca Zola
Jun 28, 2008

That should be fine for most stem plants, but it might depend on your substrate/lighting/which variety of anacharis you have whether it will stay happily rooted. In my deeper tanks it rots off at ground level, even if I plant a piece with roots, and seems to prefer floating closer to the light. I don't know if its the substrate or the lighting in that tank that are the issue because neither are particularly great for growing plants. Like anything, just try it and maybe it will be fine! if it won't stay rooted, you might be able to tie it to something or weight it so it stays vertical.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Enos Cabell posted:

So it looks like I'm going to have to rehome the group of clown loaches in my 180g tank. They've coexisted peacefully with the frontosa for years, but apparently within the past few weeks the clowns have decided to start nipping their fins. Three of the largest frontosa are pretty shredded right now.

Yeah I had that situation where loaches lull you into a sense of security, then start eating their tankmates.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Bugger.

One of my gold panda telescopes is sick. He’s swimming in his side with a bent spine. Water is fine so I’m treating it like swim bladder, but what is worrying me is that I found him trapped under the battleship with nun, and he’s had his fins nibbled a bit, which makes me wonder if he’s actually hurt his spine. I have been wondering about him for a week or so because he’s been very slowly swimming around the top with his fin out of the water a lot.

I’ve got him on his own in a small bucket (treated water) because the other fish all started nibbling and bumping him and he was being buffeted around by the filters, so I’m going to have to manually baby that water untill he rights himself or nature takes it’s course.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

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learnincurve posted:

Bugger.

One of my gold panda telescopes is sick. He’s swimming in his side with a bent spine. Water is fine so I’m treating it like swim bladder, but what is worrying me is that I found him trapped under the battleship with nun, and he’s had his fins nibbled a bit, which makes me wonder if he’s actually hurt his spine. I have been wondering about him for a week or so because he’s been very slowly swimming around the top with his fin out of the water a lot.

I’ve got him on his own in a small bucket (treated water) because the other fish all started nibbling and bumping him and he was being buffeted around by the filters, so I’m going to have to manually baby that water untill he rights himself or nature takes it’s course.

Oh no. :(

Tip: if you don't have a heater for the bucket, the top of the fridge is usually a couple degrees warmer than the floor or even a table because the condenser coils on the back put out heat. Good spot for starting seedlings, or presumably for storing sick fish.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
He didn’t make it poor sod, his fins got worse overnight and I’m thinking he got some sort of infection in them. Checking out his spine it’s not quite the right shape, the base of it is slightly longer than it should be and bent down. I’m now confident that’s what gave him the swim bladder problems, that made the other fish attack him, which gave him the fin rot.

It’s not awesome but at least I know there is nothing I could have done, his brother does not have a odd spine, and it’s not contagious.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
I need some drat peanut butter because I am so jelly of my friend's tank. He went to a lfs and some worker there hosed up majorly. They had two huge java fern mats and a swordtail bunch that someone had left in a misc empty tank with $9 markered on. But some saltwater guy came over to help him, thought the price looked okay, bagged and tagged and sent him on his way with about $200 worth of plants for $30.

Some poor freshwater dude is gonna come back with scissors to cut the mats and be in for a big surprise.


edit: Same store had its laptop stolen yesterday. Tons of footage online being posted too.

Bad day to work there.

Cowslips Warren fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Dec 29, 2017

damastas
Oct 15, 2012
I just recently completed a 1500 mile move with my betta Fishy, and was surprised that he survived the journey. I put his previous tank water in a jug before the move, along with his filter and substrate. When I got to the new place I set up his tank and it appeared that it was still cycled, I added a small amount of ammonia and the next day it was back to 0. Long story short, it looks like after getting settled in his tank again he got sick. I think he has popeye and possibly fin rot and/or ich. He is eating and swimming around a bit but mostly lethargic. I started him on KanaPlex for the popeye yesterday (which should also treat fin rot, if that's an issue) but otherwise have just tried to keep his environment as stress free as possible. He's still eating and seems to be doing well for how bad he looks.

Does this look like ich to anyone else? I'm not sure because it's his entire tail instead of little white dots.

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Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I cant see anything that looks like ich to me. Ich on fish look like little white specks. What are you seeing, is his tail turning white or something?

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