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Stafford is cool and good and I was very happy with him for being a bro and blowing some late passes on Thanksgiving.
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look i think that we can all agree that whether you like it or not, statistically matthew stafford is a quarterback who plays for the detroit lions in the national football league
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Stafford gave me a new phrase: "The Stafford Contract", or, when you have a player or coach that is good enough to get the job done, you know there's better out there, but you don't want to gamble on it, so you give the a guy a big contract so he doesn't go elsewhere. I view McCarthy largely through the same lens. He's not bad, hamstrung by a bad DC, but who the gently caress out there is available for HC duties these days that could even be considered an upgrade?
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iospace posted:Stafford gave me a new phrase: "The Stafford Contract", or, when you have a player or coach that is good enough to get the job done, you know there's better out there, but you don't want to gamble on it, so you give the a guy a big contract so he doesn't go elsewhere. Dom Capers
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Dec 18, 2017 23:37
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The only reasons the Packers have gotten sorta murdered and not full on brutalized on defense are Blake and Damarious having insane seasons. Remove 1 of those 2 and it’s not hard to believe this team has another loss, maybe two.
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iospace posted:Stafford gave me a new phrase: "The Stafford Contract", or, when you have a player or coach that is good enough to get the job done, you know there's better out there, but you don't want to gamble on it, so you give the a guy a big contract so he doesn't go elsewhere. Who the hell is out there that's better than Stafford that the Lions could reasonably get?
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VJeff posted:Who the hell is out there that's better than Stafford that the Lions could reasonably get? Well, you could gamble on a free agent at the end of the season or draft someone. But if you don't pay him he's also going to go seek money from a team that would.
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Brett Hundley could be available
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iospace posted:Well, you could gamble on a free agent at the end of the season or draft someone. But if you don't pay him he's also going to go seek money from a team that would. So, nobody. Your premise is a farce. The Lions paid Stafford because he's worth it. Also, Packers re-signed Joe Callahan, so, expect Rodgers to be shut down soon.
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VJeff posted:So, nobody. Your premise is a farce. The Lions paid Stafford because he's worth it. It's ok to admit you have stockholm syndrome. We understand, we've all been there.
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Dec 18, 2017 23:58
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Yeah I'm pretty okay giving a top 5 quarterback in the league megabucks instead of going through the Mike McMahon/Joey Harrington/Jon Kitna route for oh, 8 seasons
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iospace posted:It's ok to admit you have stockholm syndrome. We understand, we've all been there. You: ..."You know there's better out there."... Me: "Like who?" You: 
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VJeff posted:You: ..."You know there's better out there."... You know who's better than Stafford? Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, maybe Flacco. There, better QBs. They exist, but you gotta find him first. Problem is, are you going to let Stafford walk to draft a potential lottery ticket or are you going lock him down? Or are you going to try your hand on a FA back up that is also an unknown. No one saw Brady exploding but here we are.
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Dec 19, 2017 00:04
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Rodgers can't even stay on the field
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iospace posted:maybe Flacco.  Being elite doesn't make you a good quarterback.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Rodgers can't even stay on the field Trust me, I know  Shangri-Law School posted:
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Dec 19, 2017 00:07
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Flacco is NOT better than Stafford
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nerve posted:Flacco is NOT better than Stafford  Let me have my fun.Neither the Packers or Lions are making the playoffs though
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Dec 19, 2017 00:11
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We should just cut him loose and draft, uh, Josh Allen
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Packers absolutely are not, Lions could!
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Right now? Maybe Brees. Maybe Rivers. But outside Rodgers and Brady I’d take Stafford.
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Dec 19, 2017 00:15
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At least the Lions paid him unlike the poo poo Washington is pulling. I'll give them that.
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When Stafford subbed himself back in and won that game however many years back he forever endeared himself to me. I could take or leave the Lions, but I wish good things for him.Gonz posted:Shartcago. Lets not do this
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Dec 19, 2017 00:18
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the mic'd up for that play is legit i think my favorite football thing i've ever watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rvIwyikbRU
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Dec 19, 2017 00:19
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Between the Browns game, the Fake Spike, winning like 8 comeback games last year, Stafford should be everybody's favorite QB.
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rabidsquid posted:the mic'd up for that play is legit i think my favorite football thing i've ever watched it's so loving cool, and even better when presented as one take
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nerve posted:I don't give a gently caress what whiny NFCN fans say about it being easy to be a Packers fan, I know exactly what it's like to be a fan of lovely, horrible sports teams that will never win a got dang thing. That's exactly how I justify my response when talking about my entire conscious lifetime being hall-of-fame quarterback play. I'm a Brewers fan. Also, I think the thing that is most stark when looking at the Packers defense and Dom Capers, outside the stats anyway, is how when you look at other playoff contenders with a poor defense, they've been able to adjust not only in game but through the season and their defenses have noticeably improved. Patriots, Steelers, Saints, Falcons. This is not hte case with the Packers who have only gotten worse Boon fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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Dec 19, 2017 00:42
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The most Lions thing ever is for the Falcons to drop 2/3 and the Lions still to lose in week 17 even when the Packers can't make the playoffs
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the trick to the packers conundrum is you can absolutely complain about how hard it is to be a packers fan but also nobody is going to be sympathetic. life is all about learning to manage expectations.
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Nobody is complaining about how hard it is to be a Packers fan Jesus loving Christ you can be content with something and also critique it holy poo poo
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rabidsquid posted:the trick to the packers conundrum is you can absolutely complain about how hard it is to be a packers fan but also nobody is going to be sympathetic. life is all about learning to manage expectations. I doubt anyone is looking for sympathy. Just to be able to discuss the defense without a chorus of "HURF BLURF AARON RODGERS". I'm curious, how close do Lions fans see the team being to being a credible Super Bowl contender? I don't doubt they could sneak into a wild card spot and make the playoffs some year. But what would they need to make the playoffs and feel like they have a real shot?
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https://twitter.com/ChrisBurkeNFL/status/942906255676452867 Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha! Hooogh. BGrifter posted:I doubt anyone is looking for sympathy. Just to be able to discuss the defense without a chorus of "HURF BLURF AARON RODGERS". Yeah well, that ain't gonna happen. That ship sailed when Rodgers became the God King of Hail Maries. BGrifter posted:I'm curious, how close do Lions fans see the team being to being a credible Super Bowl contender? I don't doubt they could sneak into a wild card spot and make the playoffs some year. But what would they need to make the playoffs and feel like they have a real shot? A defense and a run game would be nice. MJeff fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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BGrifter posted:I doubt anyone is looking for sympathy. Just to be able to discuss the defense without a chorus of "HURF BLURF AARON RODGERS". On defense, a defensive line, the linebackers to get their act together. On offense, a running game. Special teams are good. Possibly a new coach.
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Basically, if I have to hear about that stupid loving hail mary TD Rodgers threw against the Lions every loving week for the rest of my loving life, then my position is going to be that you should just compensate for your crappy defense with more hail mary TDs.
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If the Packers got to play the Lions every week that just might work. Bonus: If the Packers got to play the Lions every week you'd never hear about the '72 Dolphins ever again.
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Eh, the Packers would probably win a couple, our defense is pretty bad.
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VJeff posted:Eh, the Packers would probably win a couple, our defense is pretty bad.  Well played.
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Athanatos posted:Let’s not do this. I was just thinking of a poop pun, I assure you I wasn’t being malicious. Gonz fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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VJeff posted:Yeah well, that ain't gonna happen. That ship sailed when Rodgers became the God King of Hail Maries. We did eat a Fail Mary, which, ironically, was launched by Wilson, who would have likely led us to Wisconsin's first national title game if it weren't for two Hail Marys in the same season that were successful. The 'What Could Have Been' if JJ Watt stuck around for one more season....
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BGrifter posted:I doubt anyone is looking for sympathy. Just to be able to discuss the defense without a chorus of "HURF BLURF AARON RODGERS". If the Lions ever came close to a Super Bowl they would be taken out by the deep state before the NFC Championship game
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