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UrbanLabyrinth posted:How would the Feds cope with having a non big-two-party premier? Throw them some pork and get them to vote for whatever lovely, lovely bills they want to pass.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:15
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Things are looking up for QLD's crowning as the best state.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:18
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I warned you all about QLD being the best I told you dog
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Dec 19, 2017 01:19
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CrazyTolradi posted:What myki inspectors?
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Dec 19, 2017 01:22
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UrbanLabyrinth posted:Xenophon's SA Best gains stunning lead over Labor and Liberal: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-19/xenophons-sa-best-leading-newspolls-popularity-poll/9270690 It's pretty much unprecedented in the modern era. You'd have to go back to pre-WW2 to find something close to it.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:32
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Oh my god SA what are you doing  At least if we elect a third-party premier it'll be Nick rather than Pauline, so that's a point in our favour. But if we do, we can be ignored/screwed over by the fed no matter who's in power!
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Dec 19, 2017 01:37
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Oh, read the rest, he's not running in enough seats to have any real power, just balance of power. What do you all think? I reckon he'd bleed votes from both sides (being centrist and all) but probably Labor more.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:39
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It would be great to see a middle finger to the big two, politics needs a kick in the junk. I don't particularly like Xenephon but I don't particularly like most politicians.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:39
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I think between the Greens in Tasmania and the ACT, SA Best in SA, and the makeup of the federal Senate people are going to need to get used to minority government.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:43
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Dec 19, 2017 01:48
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That look on his face just says "if I had a peanut allergy I could end it all now..."
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Dec 19, 2017 01:50
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I think between the Greens in Tasmania and the ACT, SA Best in SA, and the makeup of the federal Senate people are going to need to get used to minority government. Also Labor in Victoria are looking less and less likely to form another majority government in the foreseeable future.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:52
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Anidav posted:I warned you all about QLD being the best
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Dec 19, 2017 01:53
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Solemn Sloth posted:Also Labor in Victoria are looking less and less likely to form another majority government in the foreseeable future.
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Dec 19, 2017 01:55
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Dec 19, 2017 02:01
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"What have I done? How did it turn out this way? I could have had my own show on the ABC."
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Dec 19, 2017 02:08
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Oh, read the rest, he's not running in enough seats to have any real power, just balance of power. Xenophon is both desperate for power and terrified of having enough of it to be accountable.
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Dec 19, 2017 02:19
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Senor Tron posted:Xenophon is both desperate for power and terrified of having enough of it to be accountable. A true centrist. "It's election day here in SA and Nick Xenophon's just won big! Any words, Nick?" "Tell my wife I said... hello."
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Dec 19, 2017 02:23
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CrazyTolradi posted:"No minority government with the Greens" is exactly the hill Dandrews shouldn't die on, but will because LABAH To be fair literally every time Labor goes into government with the Greens they (if not both parties) lose massively immediately afterwards thanks to the LNP yelling at the top of their lungs how THE RADICAL EXTREME GREENS ARE THE PRIME MINISTER and the Greens inevitably disappointing everyone and failing to deliver thanks to governing with LABAH Aesculus fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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Dec 19, 2017 02:26
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Seeing chris suffer is the best
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Dec 19, 2017 02:32
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It's almost as if most Australians don't want to elect the greens.
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Dec 19, 2017 02:41
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JBP posted:It's almost as if most Australians don't want to elect the greens. Most Australians are wrong and don't know what they need. Glorious Leader Di Natalie knows what's good for them though.
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Dec 19, 2017 02:43
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JBP posted:It's almost as if most Australians are complete shitheads
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Dec 19, 2017 02:46
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If you’re not a greens voter you are unironically Hitler. - Auspol, 2017
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Dec 19, 2017 03:25
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bigis posted:If you’re not a greens voter you are unironically Hitler. Someone post that photo where Parliament is voting on concentration camps for refugees and it's just Bandt and Wilkie voting against it.
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Dec 19, 2017 03:28
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bigis posted:If you’re not a greens voter you are unironically Hitler. This is literally true and I'm not even using the SA definition of literally
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Dec 19, 2017 03:29
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please dont yell at him, my son is easily led.
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Dec 19, 2017 03:31
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lol so few women getting cabinet positions that Turnbull has to namedrop an assisstant minister.
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Dec 19, 2017 03:45
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:This would never happen on the superior morning show, Get Kracken'
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Dec 19, 2017 04:05
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Aesculus posted:To be fair literally every time Labor goes into government with the Greens they (if not both parties) lose massively immediately afterwards thanks to the LNP yelling at the top of their lungs how THE RADICAL EXTREME GREENS ARE THE PRIME MINISTER and the Greens inevitably disappointing everyone and failing to deliver thanks to governing with LABAH ACT 2012 doesn't really count. Greens vote went backwards, but it wasn't exactly a collapse, and grew again in 2016. Obviously the ACT Labor/Greens governing coalition could not possibly be replicated anywhere else because every other state Labor party is hosed.
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Dec 19, 2017 04:18
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Kafka Syrup posted:ACT 2012 doesn't really count. Greens vote went backwards, but it wasn't exactly a collapse, and grew again in 2016. Why do you propose "hosed" Labor would entertain a coalition with a deeply unpopular party among their working class heartland seats? They're losing aspirational and established middle class voters to the greens, I don't think they need to actively court failure in hotly contested old party seats. I feel like this is asking for Labor to lose seats and doom any conciliatory ALP and Greens voting blocs that might be of use should the ALP scrape through.
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Dec 19, 2017 04:32
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The rule is in a coalition government, three things can happen: The major party falls, the Libs rule for a thousand year Abetzreich The minor party falls, Australia has no decently left-wing party anymore Both fall, the Libs rule for a thousand year Abetzreich and Australia has no decently left-wing party anymore All of these are bad things.
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Dec 19, 2017 04:34
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JBP posted:Why do you propose "hosed" Labor would entertain a coalition with a deeply unpopular party among their working class heartland seats? They're losing aspirational and established middle class voters to the greens, I don't think they need to actively court failure in hotly contested old party seats. I wouldn't. I agree it'd be a terrible strategic idea. But ACT Labor also largely a much easier entity to deal with, both in Parliament and in the party apparatus. The whole thing is a lot more amenable and less media-driven than my experience with both Labor and the Greens in other states.
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Dec 19, 2017 04:37
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Kafka Syrup posted:Obviously the ACT Labor/Greens governing coalition could not possibly be replicated anywhere else because every other state Labor party is hosed. this analysis is dangerous because it suggests that ACT labor isn’t hosed, when it absolutely is. ACT labor has been successful in spite of being just as hosed as other state labor parties because the liberals have barely any base in canberra.
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Dec 19, 2017 04:38
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BBJoey posted:this analysis is dangerous because it suggests that ACT labor isn’t hosed, when it absolutely is. ACT labor has been successful in spite of being just as hosed as other state labor parties because the liberals have barely any base in canberra. The Canberra Liberals are somehow more hosed than Liberals elsewhere. They're swinging more and more to the Christian Right, despite their entire voter base in Canberra being either upper class NIMBY types (being picked up by the Greens very rapidly) or anti-establishment "gently caress the system" types (being picked up by the Sex Party and probably One Nation at the next election).
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Dec 19, 2017 04:41
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Who exactly is the Australian working class JBP speaks of? Is it the FYGM boomers or the younger workers who struggle to get enough hours to make ends meet and get hosed over by unions like the SDA?
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Dec 19, 2017 04:42
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Kafka Syrup posted:The Canberra Liberals are somehow more hosed than Liberals elsewhere. They're swinging more and more to the Christian Right, despite their entire voter base in Canberra being either upper class NIMBY types (being picked up by the Greens very rapidly) or anti-establishment "gently caress the system" types (being picked up by the Sex Party and probably One Nation at the next election). Yeah, the only explanation i can think of is that their strategist is an ALP plant because the right wing of Canberra is not a large well to draw from. A vaguely centrist liberal party would probably romp it in in Canberra just because after more than a decade of single party rule the feckless swing voters get restless for change, but the ACT liberals’ only policy positions seem to be 1) we hate trams 2) we hate diversity.
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Dec 19, 2017 04:45
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CrazyTolradi posted:Who exactly is the Australian working class JBP speaks of? Is it the FYGM boomers or the younger workers who struggle to get enough hours to make ends meet and get hosed over by unions like the SDA? Well you see it's the kind of people you'd find working at the Holden pla- Uh, the kind of people you'd find working at the Toyota pla- Erm, the kind of people you'd find working at the Mitsubishi pla- Australian Submarine Cor- Liddell Pow- Help me out here guys
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Night Shade posted:Well you see it's the kind of people you'd find working at the Holden pla- Poor people who happen to also hate other poor people? (as opposed to rich people who hate poor people and poor people who hate themselves who obviously vote Tory) BBJoey posted:Yeah, the only explanation i can think of is that their strategist is an ALP plant because the right wing of Canberra is not a large well to draw from. Oh they got a new one on the recent countback. 3) we hate queers. Sex Party's imploded too. Canberra's basically destined to be a Labor/Green coalition in one form or another for the foreseeable future, with just the power ratio between Unity : Left : CPSU : Greens changing election to election. Kafka Syrup fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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