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intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

it isnt stalking when I do it.
https://i.imgur.com/YlqLoFH.mp4

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Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat
rear end cancer, much like this thread. Sucks rear end.

intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

thatguy posted:

Space Court.

Space Coutts

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
As the whole scheme seems to be winding down (or is the lawsuit the start of a new chapter?) I’ve been thinking a lot about endings. Because if there is going to be a ending to this thing, there are going to be a lot of lasts. Many of them we’ll never get to know, their contributions will be hidden in confidential files and other dark places unlikely ever to see the light of day. Here are some soon to be unsung figures and moments. Are they in the future or the past?

* The last person to ever pledge. Probably a whale, desperate to fund this thing past the ever receding finish line. This person is probably in the future.
* The last person to buy (and the last person to sell) a grey market ship.
* The last new person to buy in to Star Citizen. This person is the most interesting to me. Not the invested fools trying to untangle themselves from sunk cost fallacy, but the last person to come to this thing fresh and think “yeah, sounds good, I’m in.” Maybe this person is already known. Maybe SC exhausted its ability to attract new money ages ago. Or maybe there are still new citizens to come. Maybe it’ll be The Titanic.
* The last person to check in code to the SC/SQ42 repository.
* The cast and crew of the last ‘Round the Verse.
* The last SC stream.
* The last Chris Roberts stage appearance.
* The last PC Gamer cover story.
* The last Spectrum post.
* The last version number.
* The last concept ship.

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

I never thought I'd find common ground with a shitizen, but there it is! I, too, laughed at the "busy building the game" part!

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Yes.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

The Rabbi T. White posted:

I see Derek finally defeated the vending machine.

:stonk:

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nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

doingitwrong posted:

* The last new person to buy in to Star Citizen. This person is the most interesting to me. Not the invested fools trying to untangle themselves from sunk cost fallacy, but the last person to come to this thing fresh and think “yeah, sounds good, I’m in.” Maybe this person is already known. Maybe SC exhausted its ability to attract new money ages ago. Or maybe there are still new citizens to come. Maybe it’ll be The Titanic.

Hello, it's me: I'm the last Star Citizen. Chris Roberts will make a movie about me. Sandi will take the leading role as me.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

:perfect:

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intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

I was the same way. I saw Privateer the MMO and had no idea about freelancer until the fans of that game began to show up in 2013. Sometime around 2013 or 2014 I found a copy of Freelancer at an estate sale for $1 and loaded it up to play it and went: "WTF is this poo poo". Then suddenly the whole mouse aim thing became apparent and there were two very different fan bases wanting to very different games delivered in terms of the feel of flight. Most of the original backers I felt were like myself and fans of the 90's era Wing Commander, Xwing Series, and Freespace games. Hence the Controller Katamari thread that went on for years until finally in summer of 2015 we asked for them to explain how the flight model was going to work...and they couldn't. They gave us a write up about different flight "modes", but not how the game was supposed to feel. Elite went with nerfed yaw to make it more like airplanes in space because they thought it was more fun. You can argue about not liking that control scheme, but you can't say that Frontier didn't nail what they were aiming for, but they knew what they were aiming for where as CIG never did.

Last year I decided to wait and see if they delivered 3.0 by the end of Jan 2017. They didn't so I got a refund.

I saw how they leveraged the old guard vs the new guard (LTI) and it disgusted me. Then they put all that pressure on that end of Nov sale and said it would never come back.
They came down hard on moderation and brought back LTI. What finished me was the TOS change blocking me from the game and removing all accountability.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Abuminable posted:

Derek linked to Breitbart?? Pardon me while I glue my jaw back on.

I know the writer, Nate Church. Don't shoot the messenger. Everyone's gotta eat.

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intardnation
Feb 18, 2016

I'm going to space!

:gary: :yarg:

doingitwrong posted:

As the whole scheme seems to be winding down (or is the lawsuit the start of a new chapter?) I’ve been thinking a lot about endings. Because if there is going to be a ending to this thing, there are going to be a lot of lasts. Many of them we’ll never get to know, their contributions will be hidden in confidential files and other dark places unlikely ever to see the light of day. Here are some soon to be unsung figures and moments. Are they in the future or the past?

* The last person to ever pledge. Probably a whale, desperate to fund this thing past the ever receding finish line. This person is probably in the future.
* The last person to buy (and the last person to sell) a grey market ship.
* The last new person to buy in to Star Citizen. This person is the most interesting to me. Not the invested fools trying to untangle themselves from sunk cost fallacy, but the last person to come to this thing fresh and think “yeah, sounds good, I’m in.” Maybe this person is already known. Maybe SC exhausted its ability to attract new money ages ago. Or maybe there are still new citizens to come. Maybe it’ll be The Titanic.
* The last person to check in code to the SC/SQ42 repository.
* The cast and crew of the last ‘Round the Verse.
* The last SC stream.
* The last Chris Roberts stage appearance.
* The last PC Gamer cover story.
* The last Spectrum post.
* The last version number.
* The last concept ship.

Miku is the answer

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

D_Smart posted:

Don't shoot the messenger. Everyone's gotta eat.

I guess if we want to get some of the SC streamers into the thread this'd be as good a title as any.

SPERMCUBE.ORG
Nov 3, 2011

Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...


"Never in the field of game development was so little sold for so much to so many."

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

D_Smart posted:

I know the writer, Nate Church. Don't shoot the messenger. Everyone's gotta eat.

At least your buddy won't be drinking water that's making the freaking frogs gay?

Solarin
Nov 15, 2007


I can't get past that stupid loving helmet border to cringe at the rest of the screenshot

SpaceCurtisLeMay
Sep 30, 2016

We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

TheAgent posted:

for most of these backers, pc gaming equals a $5,000 PC and the select few games meant to take advantage of nerds with too much money

everything else is downgraded trash and how dare the companies that produce games care about things like "sales" or "money" or "keeping a business running"

its a total elitist attitude which I find hilarious because the next iteration of consoles are going to be insanely powerful as the price and size of components continues to drop

you find these guys in every part of society and they are always saying the same fundamentalist poo poo

I bought a $250 PC off lease in 2013. Put a new PSU + GTX 970 in 2014 in it and still running it. Newer machines aren't that much faster than the 3.4ghz Xeon in it. I was going to put a new GPU in it this year, but the whole bitcoin madness has raised prices to the point that I'm not interested in spending that much on a now 5 year old computer. It runs everything that I can throw at it just fine.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Loxbourne posted:

This isn't as knee-jerk as it sounds. The citizens probably really DID perceive Derek's words as INSERT AUTISTIC SCREECHING HERE. They don't process the content of the media they consume, they process the emotions it made them feel. No citizen can remember what Ben or Chris or Tony said in episode 172 of Reverse the Hearse two years ago. But they can remember a powerful, idolised man told them he would give them their dreams, and that's all that registered in their brains. Does something make them feel hyped and pumped for Star Citizen? It goes in the GOOD category, is welcomed into their worldview, and the theorycrafting begins about how awesome this will be. Does something make them feel nervous or anxious or attacked? Then it goes in the BAD category and cannot be allowed to be real, ever.

To an extent this is the basis of all marketing, but a worldview this far gone is endemic to the kind of unsocialised, poorly-socially-developed, alienated person who is most vulnerable to cult recruitment. They don't have the self-worth that comes from a sense of their own accomplishments and an established place in a community to allow them to properly evaluate the marketing hype. They don't have other voices in their lives to provide something they can compare that hype to. Actually evaluating a statement means understanding it and sorting it into concepts the reader's mind can grasp, and that's scary when the statement includes criticism of the core of your self-identity. A cultist cannot do that. Their emotions are the only legitimate response to CIG marketing a cultist will accept.

Announcing a new ship? That makes them feel psyched! It's gonna be great flying that with their friends and their orgs, and Chris said orgs will seek you out if you have one (the Pioneer). Calling out the hefty price tag of a new ship? That makes them feel attacked, stop making them feel bad about a thing they were feeling good about a moment ago. You must be a goon or an alt or a shill or another evil word, because you want to harm me by making me feel bad. The backers evaluate all criticism by the disappointment and defensiveness the cultists themselves feel when they hear it. Not what the actual critic said.

You don't embrace Star Citizen with the same level of enthusiasm I do and that makes me sad. That hurts.

Why did you hurt me? You must have wanted to hurt me. Your motive cannot have been critique or evaluation or even well-intentioned concern, it can ONLY be to hurt me. You must hate me. So you hate Star Citizen. You are coming for me and I must ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK to stop you hurting me again!
. The rest is mob mentality and nerds being shitlords in predictable ways.

We call Citizens "manchildren", this is how they behave like children. The content doesn't matter, only the way it makes them feel. Intent does not matter, if it hurts them to hear your words you must have meant to hurt them. You cannot be merely a critic or just curious about the project, you must be a hater who wants to harm them.

This is why they're so strangely blasé about release dates and feature lists. All that matters is how awesome it will be when 3.0 is released. If not 3.0, 3.1. If not 3.1, 4.0. It's gonna feel so awesome.

This is why critical bloggers and streamers must be attacked so viciously (setting aside considerations about grey market prices). Your words make me feel sad and that hurts so you must be deliberately attacking me. I will react as if you have directly assaulted me.

This is why they cheered when Chris said he won't give release dates. Release dates are just words in the mouths of people who hurt us. If Chris does not make promises, the haters have less ammunition!

This is why the hardcore cultists freeze and lock up when CIG fucks up the marketing, But but but CIG makes me feel GOOD and now I feel bad! Whyyyyyyyyyy...!.

Ultimately this is why they're pathologically incapable of evaluating the Crytek lawsuit. The lawsuit manifests in their heads as nothing but giant documents reading WE ARE HERE TO TAKE YOUR DREAMS AWAY. YES YOURS, CITIZEN 415762, YOUR DREAMS PERSONALLY. NYAR HAR HAR WE'RE SO EVIL, SO VERY VERY EVIL. They don't see the words on the page. They don't respond to the points raised. They respond to their emotional reaction of knowing a lawsuit was filed. That reaction is a combination of nervousness and bravado, grasping at any passing piece of information that might provide a way back out of the scary introspection - "mighty CIG will crush all before it!" "ORTWIN WILL BRING THE FUREH!" "This is just a Crytek cash grab!" "Please please please can that be true I'm scared!"

There's no point arguing with a Cultist over the substantive content of anything, lawsuit or critique or forum post, because the Citizens aren't reading the content. The content doesn't matter. The meaning doesn't matter. All that matters is that the lawsuit, the GOONS, the words of a critic or Chris's failure to play his own game or whatever it is...suddenly makes them feel anxious. So it must be rejected as hard and as thoroughly as possible to make the anxiety stop.

EDIT: I've been linked to this post on reddit as a perfect example of my post in action. I wasn't expecting something quite so picture-perfect, but hey I'll take it.

Not only is this hugely insightful and genuinely helpful, it's actually quite frightening.

To be fair you see this to an extent in many communities - and the classic idea of building yourself a solid base of X number of 'superfans' buying all of your poo poo every year is well known and pretty much essential.

But a part of it you don't see in other communities is the outright attacks in every single place within the public arena where Star Citizen is mentioned, and I'm not joking when I say *every single place*

That's what puts them over the edge and into a cult for me, and what seals the deal is that at the centre of the cult lies a core of absolute bullshit that is not based in reality.

I have no trouble calling Star Citizen a cult and I have no issue calling the project a scam.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

peter gabriel posted:

It literally comes from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhsgiliheP0

It's citizens not having a brain so they repeat parrot fashion what CIG tell them to. You have to appreciate that the last time a lot of these twats played a game it came on a floppy disc, so much like Chris they know gently caress all about modern gaming.
Saying a PS4 Pro can't run a Cryengine game is laughable, the only saving grace is pretty soon it won't be a Cryengine game lol

:laffo:

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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

doingitwrong posted:

As the whole scheme seems to be winding down (or is the lawsuit the start of a new chapter?) I’ve been thinking a lot about endings. Because if there is going to be a ending to this thing, there are going to be a lot of lasts. Many of them we’ll never get to know, their contributions will be hidden in confidential files and other dark places unlikely ever to see the light of day. Here are some soon to be unsung figures and moments. Are they in the future or the past?

* The last person to ever pledge. Probably a whale, desperate to fund this thing past the ever receding finish line. This person is probably in the future.
* The last person to buy (and the last person to sell) a grey market ship.
* The last new person to buy in to Star Citizen. This person is the most interesting to me. Not the invested fools trying to untangle themselves from sunk cost fallacy, but the last person to come to this thing fresh and think “yeah, sounds good, I’m in.” Maybe this person is already known. Maybe SC exhausted its ability to attract new money ages ago. Or maybe there are still new citizens to come. Maybe it’ll be The Titanic.
* The last person to check in code to the SC/SQ42 repository.
* The cast and crew of the last ‘Round the Verse.
* The last SC stream.
* The last Chris Roberts stage appearance.
* The last PC Gamer cover story.
* The last Spectrum post.
* The last version number.
* The last concept ship.

The last "phone your parents"

the last "tane"

the last "ben fat"

the last catte tax

the last "see my blog i wrote ten months ago"

*sniff*

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice


I still think it's the subs. There is no other explanation for it to be so consistent on a daily/regular basis.

loving scammers.

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SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

D_Smart posted:



I still think it's the subs. There is no other explanation for it to be so consistent on a daily/regular basis.

loving scammers.

It's a load of bollocks, that thing will never show an amount that will raise alarm.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



PederP posted:

Where does this strange hatred of consoles come from?
My understanding, and I could be wrong because who gives a gently caress, is that there was a portion of the gaming community added when the playstation and xbox went mainstream to young adults, and being the vector by which "gaming" was infected with "not nerds". There's a whole lot of hyperbolic writing about nerd communities and acceptance and how they deal with it, but basically, xbox era consoles betrayed nerds and welcome the jocks into the fold. In their minds. It's all imagined. It's all that weird tribal poo poo about "real gamers" and "fake gamers" that often turned into sexism (nowadays I think they just skip right to sexism)

You can see a lot of the imagination in these people, 'the dream'. They blame console gamers - as a concept of a specific group, not actual people - for "dumbing down" gaming and making the dream unobtainable. This stuff still gets stoked a lot by people who like to bitch about "PC ports" and shill you hardware.

It's important to always remember that "Glorious PC master race" is, at least to my recollection, from a video where the person saying that is making fun of using a PC. These are people who think subtext is a font size.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

D_Smart posted:



I still think it's the subs. There is no other explanation for it to be so consistent on a daily/regular basis.

loving scammers.

LOL so did somebody wake up this morning around 10 and decide today is a good day to buy a completionist package and an Idris?

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

hot balls man no homo posted:

LOL so did somebody wake up this morning around 10 and decide today is a good day to buy a completionist package and an Idris?

They saw interdictions and said "this is it, this is what I've been waiting for"

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice

VealCutlet posted:

You're a good person despite what r/ds thinks.

I don't doubt for a second that someone in the :reddit: hive, will try to spin this in a way to mock Agent.

How? No loving clue, but I see it coming all the same.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

hot balls man no homo posted:

LOL so did somebody wake up this morning around 10 and decide today is a good day to buy a completionist package and an Idris?

Apparently so. And they had no clue that the Crytek lawsuit was coming on the 13th. They're probably going through the refund rigmaroll right about now :laffo:

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Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:
Crytek's staff moments before submitting the claim: "I have become FUD, destroyer of IP"

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Bless you, B'tak, may you forever feel grief.

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

The last "phone your parents"

the last "tane"

the last "ben fat"

the last catte tax

the last "see my blog i wrote ten months ago"

*sniff*

at that moment

we will all be free

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

*places jpeg to mouth, spits*

It's salt!

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

VealCutlet posted:

You're a good person despite what r/ds thinks.
its okay, in a few years when 99% of them flip and start up with the whole "where are my spaceships, mr roberts??" I think I can swing some of them to donate to worthy causes

you can already see people starting to lose their poo poo over 3.0, it's not going to improve

I also find it hilarious that all of the stuff they are working on, the new interdictions, the graphic improvements to QT and planetary entry, the fixing of bugs with lighting and poo poo that shouldn't even be on their radar is because they need that poo poo for the SQ42 demo/machinima artists

thursday is going to be the best. I'll be sitting at my fav bar with tequila shots lined up ready to shitpost like gently caress

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:
The real treasure is the grief we made along the way

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

TheAgent posted:


thursday is going to be the best. I'll be sitting at my fav bar with tequila shots lined up ready to shitpost like gently caress

So is the next pay to play video gunna be the big daddy of disappointment? What time does it show? I hope I can be here

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:
"Good grief Charlie Brown!" I cry as another shitizen spins majestically to their death

DrBall_MD
Oct 11, 2016
As I lazily sip at a glass of bourbon, I can't help but spare a thought for the poor slaves at CIG working late into the cold, dark nights on a crude digital representation of Gillian Anderson.

If they manage to get her in the holiday stream they might make another $4m. If they can make her speak they may raise $6m.

If they can manufacture fake mo-cap of Mark Hammil slapping/grabbing her polygonal rear end, the game will be funded for the next decade.

And there's the *rub*.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3
There is no reason to believe CIG can make a game, and the best I've seen is 'well they have 400 staff'. Show me the 400 staff CIG. Prove to everyone that the money is going to pay 400 wages.

This is why everyone is expecting them to settle isn't it? Before the books get opened.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Mr.Tophat posted:

"Good grief Charlie Brown!"

That was my very favourite Charlie Brown, although I still have a soft spot for "gently caress Are You Doing Charlie Brown!" and "Sorry I Ran Over Your Dog Charlie Brown!"

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TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Mr.Tophat posted:

So is the next pay to play video gunna be the big daddy of disappointment? What time does it show? I hope I can be here
Thursday at noon, PST

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