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Lollin' at anybody that thinks being poor isn't a monumental pain in the rear end and a nonstop anxiety attack.
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Rhymenoserous posted:You do realize that the welfare queen myth is exactly that... a myth right? They do technically exist but it's some stupid low percentage of people on welfare (Like 1% of the total people who use welfare). Most people that get foodstamps/other forms of social welfare tend to go off of it as soon as they can because it's a super lovely way to live. Most permanent beneficiaries of social welfare are the disabled who can't work for whatever reason. Even better then that, there was literally one 'welfare queen', and she was more like a mid-level mob boss then a welfare scammer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Taylor
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mlmp08 posted:This game is good at reminding you that if we just taxed the really rich people and businesses more, we could do so much other stuff!  
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I made the target without even touching the military, except to increase R&D! Really just a lot of tax rich people and some moderate changes to business stuff, nothing outlandish. Redistributin' all over the place.
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Dec 20, 2017 16:55
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mlmp08 posted:I made the target without even touching the military, except to increase R&D! Me too, turns out the secret to having a functional solvent government is taxing rich people and corporations bigly.
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Dec 20, 2017 17:04
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Third World Reggin posted:this is a thing that is so rare it isn't a thing To reiterate: this is a racist dog whistle stereotype and if you believe the impoverished don't deserve anything because they're too lazy to help themselves you're 100% wrong and operating on false assumptions.
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Dec 20, 2017 17:05
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"Its all the poors fault" says the monumentally rich man.
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Eat poo poo, Uber:quote:Uber Loses EU Court Fight as Judges Take Aim at Gig Economy
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A microcosm of the reality we live in: Rosie O'Donnell publicly offered $2 million in cash for senators to vote against the tax bill. People are saying she should be in jail for attempting to bribe public officials.
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Dec 20, 2017 17:28
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Good. Their argument that they are not a taxi service is extremely disingenuous.
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Dec 20, 2017 17:33
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boop the snoot posted:A microcosm of the reality we live in: uhh that does sound like a really stupid thing for her to have done. I mean she's a comedian and all but she's also a fairly politically active celebrity and crazy person so it's probably a wash. Still not a great idea. Do you read about these issues or just go with your gut? Offering money for someone to act a certain way within an official capacity is pretty textbook bribery. Whether its a joke or not is up to interpretation but generally speaking it's pretty illegal.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:uhh that does sound like a really stupid thing for her to have done. I mean she's a comedian and all but she's also a fairly politically active celebrity and crazy person so it's probably a wash. Still not a great idea. Why would you be mad at Rosie O’Donnell for offering pennies compared to what lobbyists offer to swing a vote? Because she’s a celebrity and didn’t do it with a wink wink? E: I guess she should have said it was a campaign donation and then it would’ve been alright. vvv yep you posted just as I edited it in boop the snoot fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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What she should have said was she'll give $2m towards their campaign then it would have just been free speech.
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boop the snoot posted:Why would you be mad at Rosie O’Donnell for offering pennies compared to what lobbyists offer to swing a vote? Because she’s a celebrity and didn’t do it with a wink wink? You will be dismayed to know that $2 million is actually WAY more than the vast majority of campaign donations that easily sway senators and congresscritters to pass whatever hosed up legislation a company wants. A lot of these guys are happy to do the bidding of corporations for measly 4 or 5 figure donations. It's downright cheap to buy our representatives.
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Pentagon: Check out this inertia, ladies and gentlemen! https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/pentagon-transgender-people-can-join-military-based-their-preferred-sex-n831466 tl;dr: basically zero change to transgender policy that was started before Trump became president.
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Godholio posted:[citation needed] List of per capita health spending by country. Note US is roughly double that of places like UK or Australia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita Taking 2015, US spent about $9,451 per person on health care (public and private spending, so taxes, individual monthly premiums for health insurance, corporate matching for people who get health insurance through their employers, and out of pocket expenses). All numbers in PPP USD, so a dollar spent in another country is the same as a dollar spent here. Australia spent $4,420, The UK spent $4,003. Taking Australia, since it's a big continent so it roughly matches the US' geographical situation, that means you can get universal health care for 46.7% of what we currently spend (all in) on Health Care in the US, assuming no economies of scale that might exist for roughly the same geographic area but over 13 times the population (US 325 mil people, Australia 24.7 mil). So, how much of US health care spending is already paid for by taxes (federal, state, and local?) https://www.statista.com/statistics/237043/us-health-care-spending-distribution/ Medicare + Medicaid + other government programs (public employee health insurance, VA, Indian health system, etc) for 2015 is 48.4%. That's more than our goal of 46.7%. Looks like the numbers have shifted since last I checked. No tax increases needed anymore to pay for UHC. Unless you believe that the US is in some way special and can't get the same prices (in PPP dollars) that other first world countries get for similar products and services. E: I was trying to find a site I remember from last time I looked at this that actually had the breakdown of expenditures at the federal, state, and local levels, but I can't find it on my phone. There was some (small) double counting on it of counting both federal transfers to states as a federal expenditure, and then actually the entirety of the state spending as well (including the federal subsidy). That might tweak the numbers slightly, but again, can't find the website. Crakkerjakk fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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boop the snoot posted:Why would you be mad at Rosie O’Donnell for offering pennies compared to what lobbyists offer to swing a vote? Because she’s a celebrity and didn’t do it with a wink wink? Yeah pretty much. You managed to identify why what she did was a bad idea. The argument that there is no need to dissuade this kind of behavior because there are worse offenders is loving stupid as poo poo. Namaste.
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my kinda ape posted:You will be dismayed to know that $2 million is actually WAY more than the vast majority of campaign donations that easily sway senators and congresscritters to pass whatever hosed up legislation a company wants. A lot of these guys are happy to do the bidding of corporations for measly 4 or 5 figure donations. It's downright cheap to buy our representatives. The Koch brothers spent almost a billion in 2016.
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I have never, ever seen a generic ballot so lopsided. https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/943529499966271488 My original thought is that +18 is an outlier, but not by much. https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/943530754881015808
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Good. The “gig economy” is such bullshit.
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Smiling Jack posted:It won't last https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdVXdZ3qLW0 
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Smiling Jack posted:It won't last I'm sure Diaper Donnie can find another tantrum to throw to keep it going.
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Smiling Jack posted:It won't last It actually might! https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/943533917042118658 Everything is terrible though, so people will probably forget 
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Don’t worry Democrats will gently caress it up somehow. e: which is why most of this momentum should be focused on stacking local and state elections with young eager progressives. build dat bench 
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Pelosi will get the House and first thing she'll bring up is gun control
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Yeah I’m not even gonna vote in 2018. What’s the point?
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Ideally? Joining something like DSA and hijacking the Democrat party from the inside to force those fuckers to do something besides playing at Republican-lite 'at least we're not as bad as those guys!' corporate-whoring.
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Oh yeah, Virginia recount news, Dem Shelley Simonds leads 11608 to 11607. This seat would put the House of Delegates at 50-50
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Democrats are going to get blamed ruining the economy with the tax bill (that just passed lol) RIP in piss america
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boop the snoot posted:Yeah I’m not even gonna vote in 2018. What’s the point? Proud Christian Mom posted:Oh yeah, Virginia recount news, Dem Shelley Simonds leads 11608 to 11607. This seat would put the House of Delegates at 50-50
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P.sure Cole was joking (I hope). Real talk, join your local DSA or some other progressive group (or whatever). It feels amazing to actually go out and do something aside from 
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I was just trying to match the pessimism of “democrats will gently caress it up.”
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Pelosi will get the House and first thing she'll bring up is gun control http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...-htmlstory.html
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My bad at not picking up on the sarcasm, I've just unironically run into that viewpoint twice recently and I get really annoyed with it.
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Third World Reggin posted:this is a thing that is so rare it isn't a thing Yeah. CommieGIR posted:To be fair to Active Duty: Most of the E-0 - E-4's make dirt, and Food Stamps/WIC really does help. Me. I had too. Didn’t make enough. Didn’t have lavish stuff and fancy cars, cost of living was just higher as a junior enlisted with a family.
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Vasudus posted:Lollin' at anybody that thinks being poor isn't a monumental pain in the rear end and a nonstop anxiety attack. This. My car is broken and I don’t have money to fix it. I’m hosed if it completely breaks.
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boop the snoot posted:Yeah I’m not even gonna vote in 2018. What’s the point? Every time you open your mouth you top your previous retardation.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Good. The “gig economy” is such bullshit. No but you see, the real issue is that Uber doesn't sell their drivers hats and beer coozies  -A libertarian dipshit that tutors math because no one wants to hire his as an economist. I'll get him in my feed occasionally accusing Dan Rather of starting a race war or some retarded poo poo like that
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Soulex posted:This. My car is broken and I don’t have money to fix it. I’m hosed if it completely breaks. I nearly had a mental break when I totaled my car at the end of October. Thankfully my mother has finally managed to be Not Poverty-Level Poor© for the first time ever and so I got the old van she'd recently upgraded from given to me. I'm still a month behind on rent because of it. Transport down to pick it up and driving it back put me a month behind rent. I'm hoping to break back even after the holidays, but that's up in the air Edit: also the tax bill passed and is headed to Trump's desk so I guess this gets to be my new fuckin' normal again. Yay. Professor Bling fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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