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girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants
I can't believe she's 27 and she doesn't understand.

Edit: content for the new page!

How do I [22F] break it to my new guy friend [28M] that vaginal orgasms probably aren't going to happen? (NSFW?)

quote:

u/cantcumeandhessad

Hi everyone,

So, I've been seeing this guy for about a month and a half now. Sex is great, he has orgasms without problem, as do I. The thing is, like many females, it's not very easy for me to achieve orgasm without direct clitoral stimulation. I thought this was no problem since he seems to have no qualms about using his tongue and fingers...

At one point we were on the topic of sex, and he asked why I don't cum during sex. I told him it has only happened for me like, twice in my life. I explained that it was in a dead bedroom situation with my ex and I had essentially been sex-deprived (also nearly no masturbation since he and I lived together). One time it took me by surprise and my emotionally abusive ex laughed in my face right after it happened, as he found it hilarious that I was in such a desperate state that a pretty boring/non-stimulating sex position caused me to have a vaginal orgasm.

As is hopefully obvious, my experience with vaginal orgasms isn't exactly positive.

Anyway, my new guy went on to talk about his past sex life and mentioned to the side that his ex would cum every time during sex (not to make me feel bad, this statement made sense in context). This didn't bother me, I know some girls can and some girls can't or it doesn't happen very often. Whatever.

However...

One time right after he came, he just rolled over and started jokingly complaining/moaning about how he couldn't get me to cum again. I was totally taken aback by this, I was just focused on having a good time and felt really sad that he was disappointed in the end.

Lately it's been harder to get him to go down on me or finger me, I had to ask him straight up one time, telling him if he wanted me to cum, that's sort of the only way to do it.

The final straw was today. We were messaging back and forth and he was like "Oh, I still haven't been able to make you cum during sex"

And I went into this huge diatribe about how seldom women have vaginal orgasms and how I'm very normal and I didn't know who told/showed him that basically every woman cums during sex. He just kept responding with sad emojis.

Then I told him exactly these kind of discussions make me feel unsure and nervous during sex, which is super counterproductive to having orgasms. Then he just sort of dismissed everything and told me everything is fine.

How should I tell him:

1) How nervous his expectations make me

2) How the female body loving works

3) How he should stop putting pressure on the both of us

Bonus challenge: His first language is my second language. So complicated sentiments are difficult for me to explain.

tl;dr: New guy wants me to have a vaginal orgasm. Is sad that it's hard for me to have one. What do I tell him?

I bet he's one of those guys that freaks out if she tries to rub her clit during sex

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Blade Runner
Aug 14, 2015

The boyfriend should break up with her because she is clearly a retarded child and cannot consent to a relationship

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


girl pants posted:

I can't believe she's 27 and she doesn't understand.

Edit: content for the new page!

How do I [22F] break it to my new guy friend [28M] that vaginal orgasms probably aren't going to happen? (NSFW?)


I bet he's one of those guys that freaks out if she tries to rub her clit during sex

People get upset over that???

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

maskenfreiheit posted:

Me [27 F] with my boyfriend [28 M] of 5 years, had an argument about my friend.


quote:

Fast forward to now, nothing has really changed. 

Yeah, exactly. Moron.

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants

Vargatron posted:

People get upset over that???

I'm gonna guess you don't date men

Some of them lose their loving minds if you have a vibrator. Even if you never use it. Even if they've never even seen it. The knowledge that it's there is enough.

Literally just search r/r for "vibrator".

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

maskenfreiheit posted:

Me [27 F] with my boyfriend [28 M] of 5 years, had an argument about my friend.
Man this guy is really good at creating self-fulfilling prophecies. He needs to :therapy: or find a girl with no friends.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


girl pants posted:

How do I [22F] break it to my new guy friend [28M] that vaginal orgasms probably aren't going to happen? (NSFW?)

quote:

And I went into this huge diatribe about how seldom women have vaginal orgasms and how I'm very normal and I didn't know who told/showed him that basically every woman cums during sex. He just kept responding with sad emojis.
lmao

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants

Yawgmoth posted:

Man this guy is really good at creating self-fulfilling prophecies. He needs to :therapy: or find a girl with no friends.

I dunno. I'm not a jealous person at all and I would definitely be suspicious of her friend's motives. I think he's trying to drive a wedge between her and her boyfriend and succeeding. Boyfriend told her it bothered him and she changed nothing. :sever: at that point imo

Blade Runner
Aug 14, 2015

Yawgmoth posted:

Man this guy is really good at creating self-fulfilling prophecies. He needs to :therapy: or find a girl with no friends.

My dude, no

There is a big difference between a normal friend and a friend who tried to gently caress you while knowing you had a boyfriend, then bought you flowers

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Yawgmoth posted:

Man this guy is really good at creating self-fulfilling prophecies. He needs to :therapy: or find a girl with no friends.

Or just a GF that doesn't allow herself to be actively courted.

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants
lmao
[/quote]

A 28-year-old who communicates with emojis: somebody you should trust to handle sensitive issues with maturity

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


girl pants posted:

I'm gonna guess you don't date men

Some of them lose their loving minds if you have a vibrator. Even if you never use it. Even if they've never even seen it. The knowledge that it's there is enough.

Literally just search r/r for "vibrator".

Ah I guess this must be one of those "men must control women's sexuality" kind of deals then?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
^^^ Nah, just good old fashioned inadequacy.

girl pants posted:

I can't believe she's 27 and she doesn't understand.

Edit: content for the new page!

How do I [22F] break it to my new guy friend [28M] that vaginal orgasms probably aren't going to happen? (NSFW?)


I bet he's one of those guys that freaks out if she tries to rub her clit during sex

This is what happens when you don't have sex ed and guys get their ideas about sex from porn.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Her: I'm sitting you down to seriously talk about issues with our sex life that are tearing our relationship apart.
Him: *makes sad R2D2 noises*

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants

Vargatron posted:

Ah I guess this must be one of those "men must control women's sexuality" kind of deals then?

They're just really upset that their little peepees don't vibrate and don't cause women to have screaming orgasms the second they enter the vagina. So yeah, insecurity / inadequacy.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Gorilla Salad posted:

^^^ Nah, just good old fashioned inadequacy.


This is what happens when you don't have sex ed and guys get their ideas about sex from porn.

You mean you don't do the reverse piledriver on the reg?

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants
BEEP BOOP TAB A -> SLOT B

LADY NOT COME???

CRITICAL ERROR :(

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Gorilla Salad posted:

This is what happens when you don't have sex ed and guys get their ideas about sex from porn.
Not even. I had decent sex-ed from a school and state that wasn't as beholden to the abstinence-only poo poo from the early 00s, and stuff like vaginal vs. clitoral orgasms wasn't even part of the conversation. You're right though, this dude got all his ideas about female orgasm from porn.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

girl pants posted:

I'm gonna guess you don't date men

Some of them lose their loving minds if you have a vibrator. Even if you never use it. Even if they've never even seen it. The knowledge that it's there is enough.

Literally just search r/r for "vibrator".
People need to chill out and enjoy life. Worried about so much poo poo. Heck, even that girl is worried about so much poo poo. Take the attitude of "he can gently caress right off if he cares about this" and then live that attitude.

Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"

girl pants posted:

BEEP BOOP TAB A -> SLOT B

LADY NOT COME???

CRITICAL ERROR :(

😖🙁☹️😞😟😢

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

girl pants posted:

I can't believe she's 27 and she doesn't understand.

Edit: content for the new page!

How do I [22F] break it to my new guy friend [28M] that vaginal orgasms probably aren't going to happen? (NSFW?)


I bet he's one of those guys that freaks out if she tries to rub her clit during sex

I can just imagine this manchild melting down if his partner has her own sex toys that weren't bought by him, that dirty harlot!

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Porn messes people up

Arturia
Jan 24, 2017

Can't stop clicking circles

Pick posted:

Porn messes people up

What?! That's rediculous, next your going to tell me that there aren't hot singles in my area waiting for me.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Chaosfirev posted:

What?! That's rediculous, next your going to tell me that there aren't hot singles in my area waiting for me.

YOU LIE!

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Not a single fucking olive in sight

Ham Sandwiches posted:

That whole post is :redflag: after :redflag:

Inevitably if someone you know can't get into Canada and they're American, odds are they have hosed something up royal in their life

It's actually surprisingly easy to be denied entry to Canada even if you are an American. Several years ago I was pulled at immigration, they wanted to see my bank account, verify my employment, see my return ticket and verified my reservation at a resort.

They let me through but it was a nerve racking experience. And the weird thing is I have been to Canada at least half a dozen times and never had a problem, the only possible reason I could think of on why I got pulled is the woman I was travelling with was had a very well paying job at Royal Bank of Canada but she was an American, maybe they thought she had accepted a job transfer and I was sneaking in with her?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Hmm I can’t satisfy women. I’m going to obsess about that and watch women pretend to be satisfied while a man hits them. This will fix things

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Three Olives posted:

It's actually surprisingly easy to be denied entry to Canada even if you are an American. Several years ago I was pulled at immigration, they wanted to see my bank account, verify my employment, see my return ticket and verified my reservation at a resort.

They let me through but it was a nerve racking experience. And the weird thing is I have been to Canada at least half a dozen times and never had a problem, the only possible reason I could think of on why I got pulled is the woman I was travelling with was had a very well paying job at Royal Bank of Canada but she was an American, maybe they thought she had accepted a job transfer and I was sneaking in with her?


the real answer is that border guards are the absolute worst kind of cops. there is zero chance that any of them ever had any illusions about joining to "serve the community" or whatever. they signed up knowing that their job is 100% to hassle people all day every day.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Pick posted:

Hmm I can’t satisfy women. I’m going to obsess about that and watch women pretend to be satisfied while a man hits them. This will fix things

definitely not going to try giving her head no sireee just gonna send a sad eyes emoji

if i can guilt her into doing my laundry why can't i guilt her into an orgasm?!

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
that said i've never been hassled by canadian customs, and they've always seemed professionally courteous to me. it's those pigfucker americans that are always lovely.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

girl pants posted:

I can't believe she's 27 and she doesn't understand.

Edit: content for the new page!

How do I [22F] break it to my new guy friend [28M] that vaginal orgasms probably aren't going to happen? (NSFW?)


I bet he's one of those guys that freaks out if she tries to rub her clit during sex

"Well, your exes were probably faking their orgasms."

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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maskenfreiheit posted:

definitely not going to try giving her head no sireee just gonna send a sad eyes emoji

if i can guilt her into doing my laundry why can't i guilt her into an orgasm?!
Yeah idk why he doesn't just try learning how to give her a clitoral orgasm if he's so fixated on wanting to give her an orgasm. It's not a bad thing to want to sexually please your partner, but making it all about you is.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

that said i've never been hassled by canadian customs, and they've always seemed professionally courteous to me. it's those pigfucker americans that are always lovely.

I had to go there a few times for work and they were always super courteous. A little more thorough than when you say you’re going for tourism but polite.


I actually got treated shittier by customs returning from a trip to Japan.

(They got super triggered I had only a carry on for a week long trip and grilled me a lot for some reason)

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

PetraCore posted:

Yeah idk why he doesn't just try learning how to give her a clitoral orgasm if he's so fixated on wanting to give her an orgasm. It's not a bad thing to want to sexually please your partner, but making it all about you is.

Yeah it’s not unlikely the kind of guy who is obsessed with making “his woman” come might also think going down on a woman is gross/emasculating.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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maskenfreiheit posted:

Yeah it’s not unlikely the kind of guy who is obsessed with making “his woman” come might also think going down on a woman is gross/emasculating.
The secret is vaginal orgasms are also technically clitoral orgasms, just from a different part of the clitoris. It's clitoris all the way down, buddy! Learn to enjoy it!

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants
Sometimes it's easier to fake an orgasm than explain to the incredibly insecure fucknut on top of you that mashing your clit like it's the close door button on an elevator isn't going to get you there

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

that said i've never been hassled by canadian customs, and they've always seemed professionally courteous to me. it's those pigfucker americans that are always lovely.

As someone who got married mostly for visa reasons I can say that both US and Canadian border folks can both be the most petty authoritarian scumbags who get off ruining peoples trips and even lives if possible. I've crossed a lot of borders but none are ever as unpleasant as US/Canada. I've gone into countries in the middle of a literal war and had more chill, polite, and reasonable border security folk than the US/Canada border.

Also, who doesn't fake? You know how many times I fake on the streets? You know? You have to fake. The guys who don't fake, they're the ones who get it the worst...

Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Dec 20, 2017

girl pants
Sep 21, 2006
I feel a great disturbance in my pants
I have had some lovely experiences at the U.S./Canada border, but they mysteriously stopped hassling me when I stopped being an early 20s college student in a 15-year-old Toyota Corolla

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

girl pants posted:

Sometimes it's easier to fake an orgasm than explain to the incredibly insecure fucknut on top of you that mashing your clit like it's the close door button on an elevator isn't going to get you there

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
Speaking of guys melting down when their dong isn't enough to get a woman off:

Me [18 F] with my boyfriend [18 M] for 1.5 years, I bought a vibrator and he is really mad at me.

quote:

So I'll get right to the point- Our sex life isn't that great. For some reason sex hurts me A LOT. He has been so patient with me which is amazing and I always let him know how much I appreciate it. I read about some exercises I can try to make it hurt less, but fingering myself is really uncomfortable.

The other day I was at the mall and I came across vibrators. I started thinking about how much it sucks that I'm not comfortable with my own body, and how much I wish we can finally start enjoying sex. I thought it might help me learn to be more comfortable with masturbating, and eventually make it less painful to have sex. This way we can both start enjoying it and he wouldn't have to wait anymore. So I went ahead and bought it.

When I showed it to him while we were video chatting (we're in a long distance relationship while he dorms at school) , he got really mad. He said that he's not comfortable with it and basically he doesn't want me to use it. He says he wants sex to be just between us, not "some plastic piece of poo poo" (in his words). He basically went on and on and on about how I'm finding a substitute for him and how disgusting it is, and how I got it because I'm not satisfied with him. He said I'm lying about my reason, and that the only reason I want it is because I just want to feel good.

So trying to explain my reasoning and how it will benefit both of us wasn't working. So I told him that there is no difference between watching porn and using a vibrator using that logic. I told him that I'm sorry he feels that way, but I am still going to use it and he has to get used to it. Que more ranting.

The last thing he said to me (which he had been repeating throughout his rant) was that if I go ahead and use it, he will no longer have respect for all the patience he has had with our sex life (I'm not sure what he means by this). He said all his patience and respect will go down the drain. Once I use it, he says he will no longer be patient with me.

I don't know what to do at this point.

tl;dr: My boyfriend is mad that I bought a vibrator and says he will no longer be patient with me.

EDIT: Thank you for all the comments and messages from everyone-you guys are awesome. I asked him to clarify what he means when he says he will no longer be patient. He said that when it hurts he'll stop but he will be really mad about it. (???) He said that the vibrator better work or else he won't be patient when it hurts anymore.

EDIT 2: To clarify again, he doesn't mean he wants to physically hurt me or force me to do something that is painful. He means that next time we try, if it hurts me he will stop but won't be understanding and will be mad about it. Still not okay, but it is an important distinction.

Once again, thank you guys so much for all the advice!

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PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Haifisch posted:

Speaking of guys melting down when their dong isn't enough to get a woman off:

Me [18 F] with my boyfriend [18 M] for 1.5 years, I bought a vibrator and he is really mad at me.
...yeah that really sounded like a rape threat.

EDIT: Also isn't the medically approved treatment for vaginismus penetration by thin objects to gradually acclimatize the vagina, anyway? Even if the problem is psychological sometimes objects help.

PetraCore fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 20, 2017

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