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sassassin posted:Only Nintendo and two or three other big publishers are capable of paying for that kind of development cycle for a game, and they would only do so for a guaranteed slam dunk in an established IP. You're not wrong, and that was probably an unfair comparison. But it's still a standard to be aspired to, as opposed to "you liked our neat idea? you trusted us to deliver? thanks! here's... something, because Christmas or internal feuding."
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sassassin posted:Only Nintendo and two or three other big publishers are capable of paying for that kind of development cycle for a game, and they would only do so for a guaranteed slam dunk in an established IP. I guess my response to that would be "...and?". I'd rather have less games that are well-funded and polished than being able to have access to thousands of small early release games where maybe a handful are any good after the initial gimmick wears off.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I guess my response to that would be "...and?". I'd rather have less games that are well-funded and polished than being able to have access to thousands of small early release games where maybe a handful are any good after the initial gimmick wears off. People have always cranked out bad games; there just didn't use to be so god damned many of them.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I guess my response to that would be "...and?". I'd rather have less games that are well-funded and polished than being able to have access to thousands of small early release games where maybe a handful are any good after the initial gimmick wears off. You don't have to buy them all. I don't play many games but the ones I have enjoyed over the last couple of years have almost all been early access or massively improved via patching and dlc that wouldn't have been possible with the old restrictive business model that shackled the mainstream industry for so long.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Yeah this kind of explains my stance better. Maybe you get "less" and there might be some bugs, but they still managed to make games like morrowind that were very expansive and while there were some (hilarious) bugs, it's the kind of game I could play again and again without changing anything. They did eventually release expansions that made it better, but they (and the mods so many people are obsessed with on the PC versions) weren't necessary to make it a great game. Morrowind is a bad example because it was basically the Jesus of video games. We shall not see its like again.
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All complaints about the video game industry seem really dumb and petty to me. You know you can just not buy them, right? Don't like lootboxes? Don't buy games that have them. Don't like pay-to-win games? Don't play them. Don't like early access? Don't buy early access games. Don't like paying $60+ for games? Wait till they inevitably go on sale. If you don't like the product, don't pay money for it. I get that it's disappointing if a product you'd looked forward to ends up not being what you wanted, but no one's forcing you to buy it. You're no worse off than you were when that product didn't exist at all.
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Tiggum posted:All complaints about the video game industry seem really dumb and petty to me. You know you can just not buy them, right?  So just because something is optional that means we can't complain about the direction it is heading? People do it all the time whether it's movies, games, books, or even non-entertainment things like cars, computers, software at work etc. Yes, there's an option just to not use the thing you don't like, but what value is there in saying that? Are we not allowed to have opinions?
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The issue there isn't that they can refuse to buy the games or not, but that everyone else (including the people they disagree with) gets to do the same thing, and their "side" (for lack of a better term) comes up lacking. They don't really hate lootboxes, pay-to-win, or early-access games. They hate that despite not liking them, most other folks either like (or give no shits) about those things. MisterBibs has a new favorite as of 02:59 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Tiggum posted:All complaints about the video game industry seem really dumb and petty to me. You know you can just not buy them, right?
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yeah I eat rear end posted:
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Yeah, most complaints about modern gaming boil down to "I bought a non-Nintendo system"
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah, most complaints about modern gaming boil down to "I bought a non-Nintendo system" Sony generally doesn't have any of that poo poo in their first party games, Uncharted 4 being an exception but that only affects online and it's mostly cosmetic stuff you can earn by playing.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah, most complaints about modern gaming boil down to "I bought a non-Nintendo system" Lol. Its pretty easy to avoid buggy games or lootboxes when you have no multiplayer scene and about 4 good games a year , if that.
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patonthebach posted:Lol. Its pretty easy to avoid buggy games or lootboxes when you have no multiplayer scene and about 4 good games a year , if that. no multiplayer scene? boy thats some bait right there
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People who get really into the christmas tradition stuff as adults when there aren't children around to entertain are weird as hell. Last night was an adults-only christmas eve dinner thing and the hosts forced everyone to sing christmas songs together and I was wishing I was dead. If you try and resist they'll just start calling you a "grinch" and pouting so you have to go along with it or look like a dick. I feel the same way about forced "games" at parties that nobody wants to play. Just let people talk and eat naturally, you don't need to force interaction with lame activities. e: at least provide alcohol if you're going to have that kind of party yeah I eat ass has a new favorite as of 14:23 on Dec 25, 2017 |
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Why would you attend a party you don't want to attend?
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moths posted:Why would you attend a party you don't want to attend? Family obligation. You have never been dragged to a party you'd rather not go to?
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Oh, that wasn't clear - Makes sense.
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moths posted:Why would you attend a party Collateral Damage has a new favorite as of 22:53 on Dec 25, 2017 |
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Dec 25, 2017 18:26
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The star wars prequels are better than the new Disney movies.
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Pastry of the Year posted:People have always cranked out bad games; there just didn't use to be so god damned many of them. What do you think caused the 1983 crash? There has always been shovelware. How many NES games do you have strong positive memories of, versus how many games were there actually?
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Dross posted:What do you think caused the 1983 crash? According to the Google, there were 714 officially released games on the NES. I can't actually find a total number of games on the iPhone, but it looks like the number would be somewhere in the hundreds of thousands
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Guy Goodbody posted:According to the Google, there were 714 officially released games on the NES. Officially released in the West. There were hundreds more in Japan and a couple hundred unlicensed ones. And the whole “Nintendo seal of quality” thing arose specifically because the consumer had lost faith in the quality of video games in general because the market had been so saturated by slapdash games and reverse engineered clones. There’s a whole subculture on Twitch built around forcing oneself to play terrible NES hackjobs. In fact the biggest difference between then and now is that middleware and free assets exist so what we consider a bad game today is still much better than the bad games of yesteryear. Dross has a new favorite as of 02:22 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Dross posted:Officially released in the West. There were hundreds more in Japan and a couple hundred unlicensed ones. And the whole “Nintendo seal of quality” thing arose specifically because the consumer had lost faith in the quality of video games in general because the market had been so saturated by slapdash games and reverse engineered clones. None of those things you just said are arguments against the position that there are more bad games now than their were in the past
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Guy Goodbody posted:None of those things you just said are arguments against the position that there are more bad games now than their were in the past In terms of pure numbers, I guess. But not really in terms of how much of the market they account for. You have more exposure to them now due to things like greenlight and there no longer being limited shelf space to display them, so online storefronts aren’t forced to pick the ones they have the most faith in to even carry. Though they still choose those to display front and center.
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Keep in mind a shovelware NES game would have cost the equivalent of like 100 bux now, whereas a shovelware iPhone game ranges between free and a few dollars for the most part so it's not really comparable.
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Not a really strong opinion (I'll explain why), but I can't shake the belief that a decent amount of people coming out as nonbinary/genderqueer/genderfluid/whatever are going to backtrack somehow, down the line. On one hand, such an opinion reeks of "oh you're not X, X is just a phase", which is gross, and I'm pretty sure I feel this way because I'm just not able to wrap my head around that stuff. On the other hand, most hippies eventually became the suit-and-tie folks they were rebelling against, just as every generation eventually becomes The Man said generation railed against.
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MisterBibs posted:Not a really strong opinion (I'll explain why), but I can't shake the belief that a decent amount of people coming out as nonbinary/genderqueer/genderfluid/whatever are going to backtrack somehow, down the line. This is one of those iffy subjects that I think doesn't have an easy answer because humans are humans and we can all be not... solidified in who we are. I had a boyfriend who went from being a straight guy who asked me, a gay guy out, to telling me he thought he was female and straight, to telling me he thought he was female and lesbian, to telling me he thought he was straight and male again. This happened over like the span of 5 months. It was not an easy thing for me to wrap my head around but he was having a pretty rough time
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Games like Super Mario Bros. 3 are full of bugs and glitches, the game is just simple so there’s no stack of complex systems that can lead to the game breaking.Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah, most complaints about modern gaming boil down to "I bought a non-Nintendo system" Nintendo’s DLC is the most overpriced and lacking of the 3.
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MisterBibs posted:Not a really strong opinion (I'll explain why), but I can't shake the belief that a decent amount of people coming out as nonbinary/genderqueer/genderfluid/whatever are going to backtrack somehow, down the line. That's because the real hippies died of STDs, drugs and suicide, so mostly only the fake ones were left to reveal their true colors.
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doverhog posted:That's because the real hippies died of STDs, drugs and suicide, so mostly only the fake ones were left to reveal their true colors. You either die a rebel, or live long enough to see yourself become The Man.
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Bill Burr isn't funny.
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Erethizon_dorsatum posted:Bill Burr isn't funny. Kill yourself (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Wow rude
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Bill Burr is going to get eaten by his pit bull.
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The death of your juvenile dreams is a good thing. The realization that this is it more or less, it's not gonna get much better. In fact, it's probably only gonna get worse, as old age and infirmity get closer and closer. This right here is your life, so if you want to do something, better do it as soon as possible. Do not plan for retirement.
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Eh, my parents are loving retirement. They say they're having more fun now than they were in their 20's, and they partied it up pretty good in their 20's. Example: I was conceived in a car after a Jimmy Buffet concert.
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I actually like MMMBop. Unironically. I can see why people find it a nothing song or annoying, but I think it's catchy. (Yes, I grew up in the '90s)
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Bloodletting is fine and you do to you what you want. Being attacked or having your control over you taken away is always evil.
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One More Try by George Michael is a really good song.
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