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Does anyone remember that scan from a Star Wars fanzine circa 1987 demanding that the insulting joke of a movie (it's a pretty  thing) Spaceballs be pulled at once? I've been looking for it but can't find it.
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:That is not the origin of the item according to the TLJ Visual Dictionary Fan theory time. Could that be the remnants of the saber Vader used in RotJ? Or you think it's from one of his adventures post OT taking out a scrub Sith?
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Dec 21, 2017 14:19
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Canemacar posted:Fan theory time. Could that be the remnants of the saber Vader used in RotJ? Or you think it's from one of his adventures post OT taking out a scrub Sith? Are you suggesting Luke might have found... the Glove of Darth Vader?!
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Dec 21, 2017 14:27
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:That is not the origin of the item according to the TLJ Visual Dictionary Welp, back to square one: What happened to Luke's green lightsaber?
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Dec 21, 2017 14:44
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Darth TNT posted:Welp, back to square one: Wouldn't be surprised if it shared the same fate as his X-Wing
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Dec 21, 2017 14:57
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Darth TNT posted:Welp, back to square one:
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Dec 21, 2017 15:05
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Dec 21, 2017 16:10
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Heir ... to the Empire??/!!!?? MY MIDDLE SCHOOL YEARS HAVE BEEN VINDICATED VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Dec 21, 2017 16:27
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Darth TNT posted:Welp, back to square one: Luke had his green lightsaber when he was literally buried alive. He clawed himself out of the pit only to find the shattered and destroyed remains of his Jedi school. He probably didn't bother to go digging out the lightsaber from wherever pile of trash it was stuck under because he gave up Jeding at that point.
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Dec 21, 2017 16:36
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VaultAggie posted:You keep being you Victory-class. Makes me appreciate even more how Vice-Admiral Thrawn gets assigned crap duties at the rear end end of space in his Victory-class at the starting campaigns of TIE Fighter.
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Dec 21, 2017 17:05
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Don't mess with a Victory class in Empire at War. Those things are surprisingly nasty with their barrage ability.
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Dec 21, 2017 17:09
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Dave Syndrome posted:There is a nice theory going around that the physical interaction wasn't adjustable, but that Luke was physically there (and on the island) the entire time - that he simply absorbed the barrage from the walkers and Kylo's lightsaber to the chest. And that's why he looks so pained and worn out after we see him back on the island, and which ultimately ends his physical life. The movie does a couple things to make it clear that this isn't the case. The way it emphasizes Kylo's feet (and others) leaving red footprints in the white salt, which Luke does not. And the fact that the saber Luke is using was literally destroyed a few scenes earlier. The reason he looks so worn out is that he's projected himself across the galaxy, when as Kylo notes earlier, even Force-skyping "would kill [Rey]."
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Dec 21, 2017 17:23
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Does anyone know the name of the tune in Last Jedi that sounds like a heroic inversion of Vader's approach to Death Star 2 from Jedi?
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Dec 21, 2017 17:26
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Megachile posted:The movie does a couple things to make it clear that this isn't the case. The way it emphasizes Kylo's feet (and others) leaving red footprints in the white salt, which Luke does not. And the fact that the saber Luke is using was literally destroyed a few scenes earlier. The reason he looks so worn out is that he's projected himself across the galaxy, when as Kylo notes earlier, even Force-skyping "would kill [Rey]." That being said, I think he can transport things - maybe just small things - physically while he's doing his projection, because he's able to give Leia those gold dice that Ren finds after the Resistance has cleared out the base.
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Dec 21, 2017 17:31
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Wheat Loaf posted:That being said, I think he can transport things - maybe just small things - physically while he's doing his projection, because he's able to give Leia those gold dice that Ren finds after the Resistance has cleared out the base. Sure, but even those disappear eventually, while Ren was holding them. So they were still a projection, even if they had physical form, for a time.
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Dec 21, 2017 17:35
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Wheat Loaf posted:That being said, I think he can transport things - maybe just small things - physically while he's doing his projection, because he's able to give Leia those gold dice that Ren finds after the Resistance has cleared out the base. Arcsquad12 posted:Does anyone know the name of the tune in Last Jedi that sounds like a heroic inversion of Vader's approach to Death Star 2 from Jedi?
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Dec 21, 2017 17:35
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thrawn527 posted:Sure, but even those disappear eventually, while Ren was holding them. So they were still a projection, even if they had physical form, for a time. Lord Hydronium posted:They're an illusion too; they vanish after Kylo picks them up. My mistake.
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Dec 21, 2017 17:42
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Lord Hydronium posted:
No, not March of the Resistance. That one is an inversion of the Trade Federation theme mixed with the podracer fanfare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvOqgtnrPAw This is the finale for TLJ soundtrack. The track I'm looking for starts around 2:56, I want to know the name of that track as it is individually rather than in the medley.
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Dec 21, 2017 17:43
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I can actually believe this is real given the state of half those books. Unless they just bought a ton second market for a photoshoot.
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Dec 21, 2017 18:32
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John Boyega is great. On the other hand there is a copy of Betrayal in there.
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Dec 21, 2017 18:35
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Skoll posted:I can actually believe this is real given the state of half those books. Unless they just bought a ton second market for a photoshoot. Why does over half of the spine on Heir to the Empire have a black background instead of blue? Were some printed like that, was that a U.K. edition or something?
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Dec 21, 2017 18:45
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How did John Boyega find my bookshelf. 
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Dec 21, 2017 18:50
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Skoll posted:I can actually believe this is real given the state of half those books. Unless they just bought a ton second market for a photoshoot. Don't know; I haven't read the feature in the magazine so I don't know if he talks about being into Star Wars books before he was cast in the movie. However, I know the magazine in question is floating about my house somewhere so if I can find it I will check and report back. thrawn527 posted:Why does over half of the spine on Heir to the Empire have a black background instead of blue? Were some printed like that, was that a U.K. edition or something? Yeah, most of the UK editions prior to a certain date had those. I remember my copies of the Thrawn trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia and Shadows of the Empire each having that design. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Dec 21, 2017 18:57
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, most of the UK editions prior to a certain date had those. I remember my copies of the Thrawn trilogy, Courtship of Princess Leia and Shadows of the Empire each having that design. Interesting, thanks.
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Dec 21, 2017 19:01
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Wheat Loaf posted:Don't know; I haven't read the feature in the magazine so I don't know if he talks about being into Star Wars books before he was cast in the movie. However, I know the magazine in question is floating about my house somewhere so if I can find it I will check and report back. Please and thank you. I actually find it pretty cool if the stars aligned and a mega fan got to be in his favorite franchise. It's just with marketing and everything today you get cynical and believe it's all just BS to sell the movie.
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Dec 21, 2017 19:13
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Skoll posted:Please and thank you. I actually find it pretty cool if the stars aligned and a mega fan got to be in his favorite franchise. It's just with marketing and everything today you get cynical and believe it's all just BS to sell the movie. Having read the feature, it's more about his experiences growing up in London, his family, how he got into acting etc. He doesn't mention Star Wars books so who knows? However, it reports that on his first day working on TFA, he arrived with a 2 ft. tall Han Solo in stormtrooper armour action figure for Harrison Ford to sign, so you can draw your conclusions from that.
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Dec 21, 2017 19:24
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Arcsquad12 posted:No, not March of the Resistance. That one is an inversion of the Trade Federation theme mixed with the podracer fanfare. The Rebellion is Reborn. Starts about 52 seconds in.
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Dec 21, 2017 19:41
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My inner grognard is starting to wonder about things like starship combat tactics, as revealed by this film. (I can't help it, I'm a product of my misspent youth playing the X-Wing and TIE Fighter computer games.) I loved the moment where Laura Dern goes all "Allahu Admiral Ackbar" and suicide rams the bad guys at lightspeed. But since hyperspace ramming is such a devastating weapon, you'd think it would have been made into an actual, you know, weapon by now. Just bring along some busted old starship (all it needs is a working hyperdrive and an autopilot) as a designated one-shot star destroyer killer. Or better yet, engineer a specially made "torpedo" (really just a big chunk of mass with a hyperdrive on it) that does the same thing. It'd probably be an expensive torpedo but it'd be way more expensive for the other side, if it works. I wonder how you'd defend against this tactic... hmm... hey, does anyone know if interdictor cruisers made it back into canon yet? I know, I know. It's just a show, I should really just relax.
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Dec 21, 2017 20:07
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Powered Descent posted:My inner grognard is starting to wonder about things like starship combat tactics, as revealed by this film. (I can't help it, I'm a product of my misspent youth playing the X-Wing and TIE Fighter computer games.) It had been, back in the 1990's in Dark Empire II. It was called the Galaxy Gun. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy_Gun
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Dec 21, 2017 20:20
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Also, it appears the damage done is significant but my head cannon says that's because it was this huge cruiser. Had it been like the Falcon, then it would've maybe done some damage to one, not an entire fleet of capital ships.
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Dec 21, 2017 20:47
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Half an hour of a decent movie focusing on Luke, two hours of "Wait, this is Star Wars so it's got to have this, this, and this whether it makes any sense or serves any purpose or not." Kylo Ren remains a whiny baby, just like everyone else not named Luke being exactly who they were at the start of the previous film. It's bad and dull in a different way from TFA, to be fair.
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Dec 21, 2017 21:55
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Kylo Ren being a whiny baby is intentional and by far the best thing about his character.
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Dec 21, 2017 21:57
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ImpAtom posted:Kylo Ren being a whiny baby is intentional and by far the best thing about his character. The problem with that is, in a cast made out of cardboard cut-outs, Kylo Ren stands out above the rest as being a terrible character. Off the top of my head, Chewie, Rose, Hux, Phasma, hacker guy, and the kinda hot older lady admiral with the blue-ish hair all could have been eliminated and the movie would have lost nothing. Actually, just cut the entire casino planet subplot, its only purpose is giving Finn something to do. Admiral lady did nothing Leia couldn't have done, including sacrifice herself at the end - or have Finn or Poe do it. Phasma, Hux, and Chewie have never done anything important to the story and proudly continue that streak. Rose and the hacker only exist to be part of "oh poo poo what do we do with Finn," and in Rose's case to piss off Finn/Poe shippers. Rey's back and forth over falling would have slightly more meaning if she had any personality, history, or motives beyond spunky twenty-something who wants to know who her parents were.
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Dec 21, 2017 22:06
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I've seen a lot of criticism about the First Order and Ren and Hux in particular not being "badass" enough. It doesn't really bother me too much. I kind of liked that the one First Order officer who seemed competent - the guy commanding the dreadnought at the start - was the only one who looked old enough to have actually been in the Imperial fleet.
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Dec 21, 2017 22:11
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Cythereal posted:The problem with that is, in a cast made out of cardboard cut-outs, Kylo Ren stands out above the rest as being a terrible character. Literally nothing you said has anything to do with Kylo Ren's character?
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Dec 21, 2017 22:14
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ImpAtom posted:Literally nothing you said has anything to do with Kylo Ren's character? He's a whiny, petulant manchild with daddy issues whose idea of teenage rebellion is to become Hitler because he read Friedrich Nietzche For Dummies. Kylo Ren is neither interesting nor compelling, and he's certainly not sympathetic or threatening and I have no idea why this greasy-haired emo kid is being touted as the big villain of the new Star Wars.
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Dec 21, 2017 22:18
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Cythereal posted:he's certainly not sympathetic or threatening Both of these are just objectively wrong. His whole character is based on rejection. He feel rejected by Luke (mistakenly, as it turns out) which put him on his current path. He then rejects his parents and the government/galaxy they helped to build. He rejects his father's attempts to reconnect. He is rejected by Snoke for getting owned by Rey and rejects Snoke in return. And in rejecting Snoke, he expects Rey to join him and is rejected a final time. And all this because he woke up one night at the very worst possible moment and reacted before Luke could explain himself. If that isn't sympathetic or Ren's pathos of rejecting the entire galaxy and wanting to burn it down to start again isn't threatening, I don't know what is.
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Dec 21, 2017 22:31
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Cythereal posted:Half an hour of a decent movie focusing on Luke, two hours of "Wait, this is Star Wars so it's got to have this, this, and this whether it makes any sense or serves any purpose or not." Cythereal posted:The problem with that is, in a cast made out of cardboard cut-outs, Kylo Ren stands out above the rest as being a terrible character. Cythereal posted:He's a whiny, petulant manchild with daddy issues whose idea of teenage rebellion is to become Hitler because he read Friedrich Nietzche For Dummies. Kylo Ren is neither interesting nor compelling, and he's certainly not sympathetic or threatening and I have no idea why this greasy-haired emo kid is being touted as the big villain of the new Star Wars. How does it feel to agree with me on something?
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Dec 21, 2017 22:35
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I can’t wait for the real empire to roll in and kick the poo poo out of the first order for being even more incompetent.
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Preechr posted:I can’t wait for the real empire to roll in and kick the poo poo out of the first order for being even more incompetent. That would be a really funny direction to take episode 9, at least.
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