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IIRC, every new feature added after Horizons release is part of it. Not just planetary landing, but also multi-crew, engineers, ship-launched fighters, commander creator and I guess also aliens. But I am not sure, I might be completely wrong.
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GutBomb posted:The only thing it adds is the ability to land on planets and drive around in a moon Rover thing. It's cool, and useful for gathering materials but it's fine to skip it until you get a feel for the game. All of the planets you can land on are pretty much the same, crater filled deserts. Well it also adds engineers which I would say is pretty important.
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Planetary landings do inject some much-needed variety into the endless space trucking missions.
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Has there been any talk about the next expansion yet? Horizons is going to finally finish in 2018 right? They said 1 exp per year, but horizons has taken them 3.
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Next expansion is called Beyond and it's free for Horizons owners.
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I thought beyond was supposed to be just another horizons patch.
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Truga posted:Has there been any talk about the next expansion yet? Horizons is going to finally finish in 2018 right? They said 1 exp per year, but horizons has taken them 3. https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/7h2wke/elite_dangerous_2018_roadmap_regularly_updated/
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Truga posted:I thought beyond was supposed to be just another horizons patch. A little from column A, a little from column B. Frontier is notoriously bad at defining/advertising their features correctly. When Horizons launched it went from a season pass, to a separate game on steam (!), to dlc. On a positive note, I got my email gifting me the Special Effects skin for donating during their livestream this year. It's just a Sidewinder skin, so I almost didn't redeem it, but it turns out it comes with a cool exclamation point decal that can be used on any ship.
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After bumming around in a RES, I have to say the T-10 is not very much fun for bounty collecting. Turns so loving slow and it’s shields just aren’t that great due to the PD situation. I still prefer my all lasers 400km hyperlight drifter clipper with shields that never fail and I think I’m just going to use the T-10 for mission running.
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Dwesa posted:Next expansion is called Beyond and it's free for Horizons owners. Save some content that apparently will be paywalled. Dwesa posted:IIRC, every new feature added after Horizons release is part of it. Not just planetary landing, but also multi-crew, engineers, ship-launched fighters, commander creator and I guess also aliens. IIRC everything that is in space is free to take for everyone who has the base game, so ship launched fighters and multi crew should be usable by everyone. You cut yourself off from Engineers, therefore from PvP builds, and most of thargoid and guardians interactions.
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Anime Store Adventure posted:
They are all Grade 3 Efficient with no experimental effects and a few extra rerolls. I never even hear the 80% siren going off. They aren't totally maxed out, but it's enough, lol. I have a 31+MW Overcharged Class A size 6 Power Plant in it (instead of a size 7) and I usually run my pips 4 sys 2 wep... so heat isn't an issue. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 22, 2017 |
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tooterfish posted:Do you mean G5 drives? G5 FSDs are available from Martuck, who has the princely unlock cost of a 10 jump journey in an unengineered DBX or ASP.
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Less Fat Luke posted:Nah the unlocking part of engineers is usually kind of fun - it's the grind to go from Grade 1 to 5 that usually is just awful. Scanning so many loving wakes while watching Netflix, ugh. Once I got G5 FSDs I actually engineered a couple spares to G5 as well to not get screwed by the upcoming changes. Yeah, I can't wait for the mat trader to be introduced. With stuff like polonium you can at least race around a planet while collecting it, but all that data crap was always a nightmare to get enough off.
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So I've been playing this game off and on for about 30 hours over the last year, and I just broke two million credits and have a decent ship with a good cargo capacity and it's all just from hauling cargo and doing cargo missions and something happened to me yesterday that really pissed me off. I decided to branch out. So I took a salvage mission. It was impossible to complete with just the instructions the game gave me, so I had to look up a guide. That was annoying by itself, but what really sucked was that when I salvaged the cargo, I got an e-mail telling me that my destination had changed, but that I'd get a bonus if I took it to the new base. Fine. I went to the updated system and there was no such base. It was not there. So I googled it, and discovered that the base was there, but was planetary. Okay. How do I land on planets? Oh, gently caress. Turns out I need to pay another twenty real-life bucks to complete my mission. gently caress you, Elite. gently caress you.
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This UI is why I was okay with paying for Horizons.
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GutBomb posted:The only thing it adds is the ability to land on planets and drive around in a moon Rover thing. It's cool, and useful for gathering materials but it's fine to skip it until you get a feel for the game. All of the planets you can land on are pretty much the same, crater filled deserts. Or another way to put it is that the expansion is half of the game's content.  Pretty sure you can get the whole package for under $24, so as someone who has sunk several thousand hours into the game, it's totally worth the price and the expansion only being ~$15 extra over the base game is insane!
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Well it also adds engineers which I would say is pretty important.
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LividLiquid posted:So I've been playing this game off and on for about 30 hours over the last year, and I just broke two million credits and have a decent ship with a good cargo capacity and it's all just from hauling cargo and doing cargo missions and something happened to me yesterday that really pissed me off. Wow, the game gives you Horizons missions even if you don't have Horizons?
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Or another way to put it is that the expansion is half of the game's content. The question was "can I get a good idea of if I'll like the game without buying the expansion". The answer is yes. It doesn't add much to the game that isn't in the base game as far as "this game sucks" or "this game rules". If you like the base game you'll like the expansion. If you have the base game the expansion isn't different enough to sway that.
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radintorov posted:It also adds Multicrew: the feature itself might be mostly dead because some of the people calling the shots at Frontier are not very good at their job, but it is a nice feature to have when playing with a friend and is one way new players can be helped by other goons. Multicrew takes a lot of trust because of the gankers. PM me if you want to try wings and multicrew. I've had it work well quite a bit... I had a vet load me up with travel guides for that Colonia expansion CG and have failed to give away Modular Terminals twice for various reasons, but now I have some more and I'm trying to give them away to somebody correctly. Nahrix posted:Wow, the game gives you Horizons missions even if you don't have Horizons? They are all clearly marked with an icon in the mission selection screen on GalNet. Don't blame the game for your mistakes. Cyberpunkey Monkey fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Dec 22, 2017 |
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osirisisdead posted:Multicrew takes a lot of trust because of the gankers. PM me if you want to try wings and multicrew. I've had it work well quite a bit... I had a vet load me up with travel guides for that Colonia expansion CG and have failed to give away Modular Terminals twice for various reasons, but now I have some more and I'm trying to give them away to somebody correctly. And if the user doesn't have advanced knowledge of what that icon means? Validation is an essential piece of any software design. Don't blame the user for the game's mistakes.
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osirisisdead posted:They are all clearly marked with an icon in the mission selection screen on GalNet. Don't blame the game for your mistakes. If it's given you a mission which doesn't require Horizons (and hence planetary landings) and then changed it to a new destination which does require it (and you don't have Horizons) then that sounds like a bug to me. OP : put in a request to Frontier support explaining and they'll probably give you the Cr and rep or whatever back, and add it as a bug in game to be fixed. Might never be fixed but you can rest easy knowing you told them what was ruined at least 
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Abandoning the occasional mission isn't going to significantly harm your rep. It ain't actually a thing unless you try really hard to make it a thing.
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If you’re new join the Diamond Frogs discord. If you want to do multi crew and make some $$$ join the discord.
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Nice piece of fish posted:What? Depends on what you want it for. The Federal Dropship basically tries to be a flexible multipurpose ship, like a baby Python. Whether i succeeds in this is up for debate. The Federal Assault Ship meanwhile is basically a bigger, tougher, not quite as agile Vulture with a pair of secondary C2 slots - it's not nearly as 'cost effective' as the Vulture is, but when tooled up, it's a great fun murder boat with more flexibility. If you've ever flown a Vulture and gone 'god I wish I had a slot or two to throw some missile launchers/torpedo pylons on here', the FAS is worth looking at. The Federal Gunship meanwhile is all about the dakka, dakka, dakka. Seven hardpoints (one of those a C3) and a giant power distributor mean you can fit a hilarious amount of kit in the thing. It's also the smallest effective ship (shut up Keelback, nobody loves you) that can carry a fighter bay, so if you want to tootle around in a fighter the FGS is great for what it does - the next-up ships that can carry a fighter are the T9 and the Anaconda. Gort posted:Still kinda The difference is that the dedicated haulers are all *really loving cheap* for what they can carry in cargo. The T6 costs a little over a million and can easily carry a hundred tons of cargo, while the Asp can carry about the same amount of cargo (when fit right) and costs 6M base. The T7 is what, 17 million or so, and the Python is 56 million for the base hull. The T9 costs 76M, the Anaconda 146M. The whole point of the Type-X series (excluding possibly the Type-10 Defender) and to lesser degree the whole Lakon lineup, is to get you cheap and cost-effective ships specialized in their given role. Lakon Industries, bringing you the ships you want, with the prices you want.
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Drake_263 posted:The Federal Assault Ship meanwhile is basically a bigger, tougher, not quite as agile Vulture with a pair of secondary C2 slots - it's not nearly as 'cost effective' as the Vulture is, but when tooled up, it's a great fun murder boat with more flexibility. If you've ever flown a Vulture and gone 'god I wish I had a slot or two to throw some missile launchers/torpedo pylons on here', the FAS is worth looking at. FAS or Gunship for higher level Assassination missions? (Anaconda, Python, basically everything that a cobra can't match while playing solo and flying like a brick like I do)
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limaCAT posted:FAS or Gunship for higher level Assassination missions? (Anaconda, Python, basically everything that a cobra can't match while playing solo and flying like a brick like I do) FAS for a more agile, direct, disposable combat ship, FGS for a bigger fatter dakka-er ship with a fighter buddy. It's worth noting that unlike the Vulture, the FXS-series are hull tankers. This makes them more vulnerable to missiles and torpedoes - in particular the FAS' shields can fail frighteningly quickly if you manage to catch a solid salvo.
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Drake_263 posted:FAS for a more agile, direct, disposable combat ship, FGS for a bigger fatter dakka-er ship with a fighter buddy. Of course, there are engineers who can give you changes to your armor resists, so that's not necessarily the case.
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Shot a pirate in high res while he wasn't completely scanned and made the mistake to survive to keep my 3 million accrued bounties. And I wasn't capable of jumping into another system since I downgraded my fsd to keep my my keelback light. Fortunately the outposts have better fsds and I am now transporting 88 tons of titanium to klimuk ring again. Oh dear God please kill me.
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You're flying a Keelback? You're a braver man than I. (No, seriously, if it had a copilot seat it'd maybe be theoretically OK as the littlest fighter carrier with a buddy, but right now.. I loved the T6, don't really see a point in the Keelback.)
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Alchenar posted:When has this ever happened? All the time.
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Alchenar posted:When has this ever happened?  It happens all the time, just ask.
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Drake_263 posted:(shut up Keelback, nobody loves you) Quoted for truth.
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Drake_263 posted:You're flying a Keelback? You're a braver man than I. The keelback wasn't bad the first time I used it, a couple of restarts ago, when I put missiles on it to just gently caress with and gank the eagles that pulled me out of fsd (back then missiles were overpowered as well). I can say that with lasers and an slf it becomes quite good for cruising high res and scanning pirates at a distance while the cops dunk on condas, but it still smells like a cow, runs like a cow and I seriously miss my cobra. (Or a DBX). It's more of a ship you use when you need money and do trading than a mission runner. I think I will will just keep it near Maya for the impromptu rescue missions.
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