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Wait, does Mordred "remember" the events of Fate/Apocrypha? The Root records everything that has ever happened everywhere ever, and the Throne is a subsystem of it, so it wouldn't be impossible that she would have a record of the events that took place in that alt timeline. Some of her dialogue seems to imply it to me, but maybe I'm just not far enough into London's story yet and it's hinting at something different.
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Dec 23, 2017 05:51
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Heroes generally do not retain the memories of things that have occurred outside the Throne; they do not remember their summoning, their fights within Holy Grail Wars, etc. There are some exceptions as is standard for Nasuverse, but mostly they will have a vague inkling of weird things that happened to them, such as Hans remembering a certain other person who shows up but not remembering why.
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Dec 23, 2017 05:53
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Stallion Cabana posted:Heroes generally do not retain the memories of things that have occurred outside the Throne; they do not remember their summoning, their fights within Holy Grail Wars, etc. So is Artoria one of those exceptions. Because at least in the UBW anime she sure seemed to remember Kiritsugu.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:00
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ZiegeDame posted:So is Artoria one of those exceptions. Because at least in the UBW anime she sure seemed to remember Kiritsugu.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:04
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In the normal 'Fate' Timeline she's never actually /dead/, and a proper Servant. She's instead in a bit of looped time stuck perpetually dying at the Battle of Camlann, sent to the modern world as a Servant so she can Holy Grail War, because Merlin Did a Thing so she can get a Wish. It's complicated. Do not go to Camelot, it is a silly place.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:05
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ZiegeDame posted:So is Artoria one of those exceptions. Because at least in the UBW anime she sure seemed to remember Kiritsugu. Yes. Fate/Zero had a lot of weird things going on and I think part of the reason Saber remembers is because she never actually died before becoming a heroic spirit or something like that? I do not remember Artoria's specific strange circumstances that led to her remembering things from Zero in FS/N. EDIT: but the posters above me have confirmed what I half remembered.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:07
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Gologle posted:Wait, does Mordred "remember" the events of Fate/Apocrypha? The Root records everything that has ever happened everywhere ever, and the Throne is a subsystem of it, so it wouldn't be impossible that she would have a record of the events that took place in that alt timeline. Some of her dialogue seems to imply it to me, but maybe I'm just not far enough into London's story yet and it's hinting at something different. With FGO, it's a mix of Chaldea's summoning system being different and it's a fanservice game so references everywhere.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:09
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I assume the reason they don't remember within the standard 'context' of Holy Grail Wars is that if you fought someone multiple times you would end up already knowing who they were, giving you an unfair advantage.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:11
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Stallion Cabana posted:I assume the reason they don't remember within the standard 'context' of Holy Grail Wars is that if you fought someone multiple times you would end up already knowing who they were, giving you an unfair advantage. Well, ordinarily you're summoning a copy of the heroic spirit recorded in the Throne of Heroes. Whatever happens to the servant after they're summoned is not passed on back. And yeah, Artoria remembers because she wasn't a "real" servant all those times.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:14
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Really wish people would stop casually mentioning things like (London singularity.) Zouken showing up, and the Demonic Fog being a play on words with Makiri, implying he has a big role in the London singularity. without spoiler-tagging them. I haven't finished London yet, avoided clicking on any spoiler tags or story discussion threads on the subreddit, but leave it to goons to forget not everyone played JP or can rush through the new content, especially with the server downtime.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:21
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The answer is that the original VN stated that servants don’t remember stuff from other times they were summoned with Arturia being the exception. But in the name of fan service in FGO everybody has a feeling they’ve met before or remembers in uncertain terms or something along those lines. The Extra characters and people related to Shirou or Kiritsugu are especially guilty of this. In any event FGO timeline is pretty explicitly not in the F/SN timeline, but the throne of heroes seems to ignore alternate timelines for the sake of convenience to the plot. So who knows.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:21
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Stallion Cabana posted:I assume the reason they don't remember within the standard 'context' of Holy Grail Wars is that if you fought someone multiple times you would end up already knowing who they were, giving you an unfair advantage. They do, though. F/SN Archer talks about facing the original Gungir, which he sure as hell didn't do as a human, and his Reality Marble is filled with Noble Phantasms of the Servant's he's previously fought.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:37
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Man, having just finished London, that final scene really made me wanna summon Mordred. Gacha is insidious.Stallion Cabana posted:I assume the reason they don't remember within the standard 'context' of Holy Grail Wars is that if you fought someone multiple times you would end up already knowing who they were, giving you an unfair advantage. This does nothing to account for all the heroic spirits who knew each other when they were alive. Crasical posted:In the normal 'Fate' Timeline she's never actually /dead/, and a proper Servant. She's instead in a bit of looped time stuck perpetually dying at the Battle of Camlann, sent to the modern world as a Servant so she can Holy Grail War, because Merlin Did a Thing so she can get a Wish. So tl;dr a wizard did it
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Dec 23, 2017 06:38
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[quote="“Stallion Cabana”" post="“479600233”"] I assume the reason they don’t remember within the standard ‘context’ of Holy Grail Wars is that if you fought someone multiple times you would end up already knowing who they were, giving you an unfair advantage. [/quote] As is pointed out in London the Throne doesn’t exist for the sake of grail wars, and the servants fighting each other is more of an abuse of an existing function of reality than the main purpose. It exists to stockpile weapons that can be used to fight threats to the fundamental existence of the world. What is ‘fair’ in the grail war is utterly irrelevant to the original system. Also for the purposes of FGO at least heroic spirits absolutely return to the Throne, bringing their memories et. al. with them, which is even a weird plot point in Agartha. The Summoning system just ensures that a Servants memories are experienced as if they were anciently old, except for new ones during the current summoning, to keep them from developing problematic behavior traits over time; they leave vague impressions, but only the most incredibly important encounters leave a permanent impression. Like Quetzalcoatl and Lucha Libre.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:41
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I can't find any balanced servants to beat up.
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Dec 23, 2017 06:46
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Malissa in Septem has one.
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Dec 23, 2017 07:05
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Tired Moritz posted:I can't find any balanced servants to beat up. Doing London should fill the requirement. Off the top of my head, Mordred, NRhyme and Babbage all count.
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Dec 23, 2017 07:06
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Vengarr posted:They do, though. F/SN Archer talks about facing the original Gungir, which he sure as hell didn't do as a human, and his Reality Marble is filled with Noble Phantasms of the Servant's he's previously fought. That's because EMIYA is a counter guardian. He's explicitly not really a heroic spirit like the others are. What happened with him is he made a covenant with the will of mankind to save a life (or multiple ones if, as per the UBW anime which I think is canon he stopped a second Chernobyl), and in return was kept as a permanent retained by it to exterminate threats to man, forever. This supersedes his status in the Throne, so he's an eternal existence that abuses the fact of being part of the Throne to become much, much more powerful than he was in life due to expanded options.
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Dec 23, 2017 07:08
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Pureauthor posted:Tamamo is apparently getting an animation update. That's nice, will she actually do something in the story this time?
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Sophism posted:Really wish people would stop casually mentioning things like (London singularity.) Zouken showing up, and the Demonic Fog being a play on words with Makiri, implying he has a big role in the London singularity. without spoiler-tagging them. Sorry. 
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Dec 23, 2017 07:27
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I really wish the pools were mixed a bit more for the new years gacha, or they let us roll on both. Guess I'll settle on Calvary for the Alterego chance.. Also made me realize I own every 5 star assassin in the game besides MHX 
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Dec 23, 2017 07:46
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 An Australian artist is doing art for a new year's CE, which is cool. I think they're Japanese-Australian, but still cool.
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Dec 23, 2017 08:07
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They were a top prize winner in a fanart contest hosted through pixiv some months back, so that's cool.
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Dec 23, 2017 08:33
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knew namie from their pokemon art (which was rad) and their art improved even more when they started the fgo stuff. pretty rad to see their art in the game now also holy hell Ibram your assassin luck is pretty drat high, ghosts' luck I guess  Would love Eresh but unlikely so might roll on the right one for a chance at Kiara boredsatellite fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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Dec 23, 2017 08:38
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oh hell yeah that's namie their stuff rules especially their okita/nobu art
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Dec 23, 2017 08:42
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my pulls so far have been almost entirely Berserkers but I'm wary of using them due to being weak to everything. Is it okay to just stick Lu Bu on my team and go to town? disclaimer: I'm still in Fuyuki.
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Dec 23, 2017 08:44
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berserker gorilla-ing is a totally viable strategy up through london. if anything berserkers are a great class to level first sicne they're good for farming exp and class dailies to level up other characters.
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Dec 23, 2017 09:03
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I just wanna say how much I love Okita's ability to just destroy poo poo and rack up stars. She is a good friend.
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Dec 23, 2017 09:04
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FInally got a page, and then ran out of AP. ...still missing (I need 5, not 4 like I originally though). 
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Dec 23, 2017 09:07
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I'm on 3 out of 14   And that's not even counting if I want to max ascend Medea in future, which I almost certainly will 
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Dec 23, 2017 09:20
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When are they gonna release Jason
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Dec 23, 2017 09:24
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Also, I'm still missing Babbage dammit. I want my big dumb robot. Edit: https://imgur.com/gallery/xpGdl MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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Dec 23, 2017 09:25
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One Octuplet crystal short of ascending Mordred to 80. Bleh. Also need 24 fangs for Lancelot's final ascension. Thankfully Jack makes farming Wyvern Island a joke. RanKizama fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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Dec 23, 2017 13:19
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Got the heart and talon I needed to ascend Jack and Mordred to 90 from the Mystic Code quests, so now I just need a few more gears and Saber monuments. The 40 AP Saber daily loves giving me Saber pieces instead of monuments though, so that might take a while.
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Dec 23, 2017 13:31
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DW is planning to implement a hard 1.5GB RAM requirement to run Japanese FGO in February, for Android. http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/1221ztexq/
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Dec 23, 2017 14:41
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1.5 GB is an odd requirement on a phone. As in you need 1.5GB just for fate or the entire phone with it's services? My old phone was a Nexus 5x that had 2GB of RAM and it could barely run fate Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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Dec 23, 2017 14:44
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1.5GB total, yea.
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Dec 23, 2017 15:01
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Retcon posted:Got the heart and talon I needed to ascend Jack and Mordred to 90 from the Mystic Code quests, so now I just need a few more gears and Saber monuments. The 40 AP Saber daily loves giving me Saber pieces instead of monuments though, so that might take a while.
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RanKizama posted:Which ones drops the Talon?? Last arrow of the Atlas Academy one drops four.
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