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OAquinas posted:The state barred statue removal because "are history" If you are in Boise Idaho, near the capital on a hill called table rock there is a gigantic glowing lit up cross. The city sold the land that the cross sits on to a private group as to get around the whole pesky constitution. So basically this in reverse. 
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ratbert90 posted:If you are in Boise Idaho, near the capital on a hill called table rock there is a gigantic glowing lit up cross. The city sold the land that the cross sits on to a private group as to get around the whole pesky constitution. So basically this in reverse. The town I grew up in did this with a little traffic divider thing in the square they sold a like 20 Sq foot patch of land to a church so that they could put a nativity every year after someone sued the town.
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quote:To: Telepathic Intruder Parts of the KZs are indeed still there as a dire warning, but you know what isn't? loving statues of Hitler or other Nazi dignitaries in front of our town halls. You dense loving idiot. You want to keep the memories of horrors past alive? Make monuments to the victims. Keep ruins and buildings around. Don't make shrines for the perpetrators.
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Dec 23, 2017 11:29
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I get into this argument with my parents. My dad is from NYC and my mom from Edinburgh in Scotland but they both watch fox and end up buying a lot of the culture war nonsense about statues being our history etc. I am in favor of removing the participation trophies to rebellious losers. They always retort with "But your BA is in history! You of all people should want to keep them in place." My response is always that we should keep the battlefields intact and protected, things like the confederate Whitehouse etc because they're history and can inform. Statues are to honor something. We don't honor evil. The Germans have KLs still around as history and warning. They have no statues to nazis around nor do they fly the nazi flag as "heritage." They have a very powerful and unsettling memorial to the victims of nazism in a very prominent place in Berlin (if you ever are there, go at twilight, very spooky). They've never been able to debate those points.
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Dec 23, 2017 18:48
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All the former Soviet countries have parks that are dumping grounds for Lenin, Stalin, etc statues. Somehow the BUT REMEMBER HISTORY people don't have problems with that.
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Dec 23, 2017 21:52
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fishmech posted:All the former Soviet countries have parks that are dumping grounds for Lenin, Stalin, etc statues. Somehow the BUT REMEMBER HISTORY people don't have problems with that. Wait, THAT was what that one Goldeneye map was? An already good level just got even better.
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Dec 23, 2017 22:40
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Cleretic posted:Wait, THAT was what that one Goldeneye map was? An already good level just got even better. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Monument_Park This is the one in Goldeneye the movie and game, though I don't recall if the movie actually was shot on site rather than just the establishing shots. In the early days of the Soviet collapse, people simply dumped all sorts of Soviet era statues there haphazardly. Over time, it became more formal, many of the more interesting statues were brought up right for proper display, and it's quite a bit less chaotic today. Still, all those statues are removed from their former places of honor. fishmech fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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Dec 23, 2017 23:38
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fishmech posted:All the former Soviet countries have parks that are dumping grounds for Lenin, Stalin, etc statues. Somehow the BUT REMEMBER HISTORY people don't have problems with that. I have a problem with it 
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Dec 24, 2017 19:18
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fishmech posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Monument_Park This is the one in Goldeneye the movie and game, though I don't recall if the movie actually was shot on site rather than just the establishing shots. Which is what imo should be done with almost all the Confederate ones. See UT: they moved em all except one of a Texas governor who basically established UT, where his officer service wasn't the point of the statue at all.
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Dec 24, 2017 19:30
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Cop Porn Popper posted:Texas is the only bbq or chili worth having. Fite me.
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Dec 24, 2017 20:10
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Let's go into this blessed holiday with some classic hate. James Woods pegs Barack Obama: 'He's a Muslim' quote:ROFLMAO.....Yes Onambla is a muzloid, and a sodomite like all muzloids are. quote:To: nickcarraway quote:To: nickcarraway quote:To: Ouderkirk quote:To: All quote:To: Cicero quote:To: MayflowerMadam
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Dec 25, 2017 07:00
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Georgia Peach posted:Let's go into this blessed holiday with some classic hate. quote:To: Cicero Oh, so Obama's Mr. Ghazi? Glad we finally solved that mystery. You can stop bringing it up now, right?
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Dec 25, 2017 07:04
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Obama killed himself so we might live. And that, children, is why we celebrate 9/11.
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Dec 25, 2017 07:06
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Why are they all talking about Obama? Is it related to all those Fox News stories filtering in from the universe where Clinton is president?
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Dec 25, 2017 07:33
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business hammocks posted:Why are they all talking about Obama? Is it related to all those Fox News stories filtering in from the universe where Clinton is president? I remember this clearly, "George Bush doesn't care about black people!" was somehow a thing that made the circles throughout conservative news and pundits and stuff....................for a second time in 2009, three years after Katrina and the actual statement happened. And I'm convinced that's why so many conservatives today thought Obama was president during Katrina. because it was "news" again while Obama was president. I predict that in 2024 conservative Twitter will be asking why Obama wasn't put in jail for gutting HUD and playing so much golf in 2017.
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Dec 25, 2017 07:43
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business hammocks posted:Why are they all talking about Obama? Is it related to all those Fox News stories filtering in from the universe where Clinton is president? Because Obama has cemented himself as the conservative boogeyman for years to come, possibly even above the Clintons. They really, really, need an enemy to fight.
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Dec 25, 2017 07:54
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Neo_Crimson posted:Because Obama has cemented himself as the conservative boogeyman for years to come, possibly even above the Clintons. "Fight" implies "effort" or "sacrifice" so...not "fight".
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Dec 25, 2017 09:18
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Georgia Peach posted:Onambla Hey that's a new one
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Dec 25, 2017 10:50
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Prism posted:Oh, so Obama's Mr. Ghazi? Nope, unrelated term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazi_(warrior) posted:Ghazi (غازي, ġāzī) is an Arabic term originally referring to an individual who participates in ghazw (غزو, ġazw), meaning military expeditions or raiding; after the emergence of Islam, it took on new connotations of religious warfare. The related word ghazwa (غزوة ġazwah) is a singulative form meaning a battle or military expedition, often one led by the Islamic prophet Muhammad.[1]
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Dec 25, 2017 11:13
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As Trump Rages About Immigrants, They Go to the Ivy Leaguequote:Ten years ago, a family arrived in the Bronx from Yaoundé, Cameroon, not speaking a word of English. This Christmas, they are celebrating a feat that would be impressive for any family: Three of the family’s five daughters have been accepted to Ivy League universities. quote:To: Cowboy Bob quote:To: Oshkalaboomboom quote:To: Bullish
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Dec 25, 2017 11:29
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Freep is just happy that someone allowed them to relive the simpler times when the president was an evil black Muslim Democrat and everything wrong in the world could be rightfully laid at his feet. Nowadays with Trump you have to invent deep state conspiracies and find excuses, it's just not the same.
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Dec 25, 2017 12:16
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Ra ra America is the best country in the world and no other country can hope to compare on equal terms with America, our shining light pierces and banishes the darkness of evil. Also, idiot freeper posted:To: Oshkalaboomboom America really isn't special, please gently caress off elsewhere. You're smart right? Only dumb people go to America. Never leave your country, nothing that happens there will ever be bad enough that leaving is a good idea.
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Dec 25, 2017 17:32
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quote:If they are such exceptional people, why did they not apply their passions and their skills to reforming Cameroon? You can't be all "free market capitalism woo" and then be pissed every time that means that people in the exploited areas are keen to move elsewhere. Of course, they manage to be pissed at the free market whenever they decide that the LGBT dollar is more important than the bigot rear end in a top hat dollar, or that religious inclusiveness is more profitable than only catering to evangelical conservatives, so I'm not at all surprised.
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Dec 25, 2017 17:54
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Of course, no one ever asks why you wouldn't expect the kind of person who's ambitious enough to leave their home country to move to a new, likely hostile one to install the same kind of drive in their children. Immigration literally selects for the most entrepreneurial people in a given population.
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Dec 25, 2017 18:06
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Keeshhound posted:Of course, no one ever asks why you wouldn't expect the kind of person who's ambitious enough to leave their home country to move to a new, likely hostile one to install the same kind of drive in their children. Immigration literally selects for the most entrepreneurial people in a given population. For freepers, that only applies if you're white (and sometimes not even then). Everyone else comes to America solely to sponge off those sweet, sweet welfare benefits which totally exist, and also to practice miscegenation.
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Dec 25, 2017 18:23
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Captain_Maclaine posted:practice miscegenation. Everyone thinks it just comes naturally, but the pros know that it takes long hours and a lot of hard work to violate the sacred barriers between the races.
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Keeshhound posted:Everyone thinks it just comes naturally, but the pros know that it takes long hours and a lot of hard work to violate the sacred barriers between the races. I used to think just rolling into the spot and yelling "where all the white women at?" was how it was done. How wrong was I.
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Dec 25, 2017 19:09
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Imagine having so little in your life that you have to spend Christmas yelling about minorities.
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chitoryu12 posted:Imagine having so little in your life that you have to spend Christmas yelling about minorities. Well none of their family members visit anymore, gotta do something to fill the empty hours.
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Dec 25, 2017 20:39
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chitoryu12 posted:Imagine having so little in your life that you have to spend Christmas yelling about minorities. For what it's worth, I'm spending the holidays with family members that I actually like, and I still pop into this thread from time to time to see if Freep's up to anything.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Well none of their family members visit anymore, gotta do something to fill the empty hours. Then again, no small part of that is precisely because they wouldn't stop their screeds about minorities, so it's kind of a grandfather paradox. Involving grandfathers.
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Dec 27, 2017 06:06
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NachtSieger posted:Also, Why didn't the Puritans stay in England and help reform their country? What was so special about the New World that they had to come here?
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Psychlone posted:Why didn't the Puritans stay in England and help reform their country? What was so special about the New World that they had to come here? The multitudes of Native Americans to
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There's a joke I heard from an Australian guy. Why did the British send all their criminals to Australia and all their religious zealots to America? Because Australia asked first.
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Dec 29, 2017 00:50
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Psychlone posted:Why didn't the Puritans stay in England and help reform their country? What was so special about the New World that they had to come here? It was easier.
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Helen Highwater posted:Because Australia asked first. Tell it right. Because Australia got to pick first.
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Donald Trump tests eight 30ft high walls for border with Mexico He's going to lean on them for ten minutes and if they don't fall down they pass. He'd have a heart attack halfway up if he did that. quote:To: jdsteel quote:To: jdsteel What could go wrong?  quote:To: jdsteel I'm the ground-level slats on the bottom-middle two. quote:To: jdsteel quote:To: jdsteel quote:To: al_c Illegals are taking are  quote:To: newfreep  quote:To: jdsteel A "Virtual Wall," if you will. quote:To: jdsteel And how did that work out for them? quote:To: jdsteel Automatic Gun Turrets! My old friend! quote:To: jdsteel Oh bert, you sweet summer child.  quote:To: chris37 Minefields! All the old classics are returning!  quote:To: jdsteel I don't think mines work very well 5 miles underground. quote:To: hecticskeptic Did I mention ?quote:To: chris37 quote:To: CGASMIA68 We're sending the Wall out to sea? quote:To: Dr. Sivana Wait a minute... quote:To: A Navy Vet I don't even want to know what it would take to maintain that level of charge across 2,000 miles of fencing. quote:To: jdsteel ...Yeah, that's like the exact opposite of what you're describing. quote:To: jdsteel Sure just put them all on the southern border, it's not like they have any other responsibilities, right? quote:To: JudyinCanada Freeper chris37 has been melting down the entire thread, by the way. quote:To: jdsteel Sadly no one seems to have gone for the trifecta by suggesting a tire moat in the thread.
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Jagged Jim posted:Sadly no one seems to have gone for the trifecta by suggesting a tire moat in the thread. Wasn't there a suggestion for an eternally burning tire moat?
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With stagnant water at the bottom to encourage mosquitoes. And HMG posts to throw chunks of burning tires and filthy water in the air around any suspected migrants.
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What in the flying gently caress do they think is coming across the border that they need to create an American DMZ to stop?
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