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steinrokkan posted:Oh no, not complaining in the complain about video games thread Cummun drive a tow truck for this crack whore for an hour. I gave up on the "narrative" in GTA V for good when franks ex who left him for a doctor ran into his apartment and said he had to rescue uber gently caress-up Lamar from some crackhead stronghold in order to "keep it real".
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But that supercar-stealing mission with the long race was cool.
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ditty bout my clitty posted:Cummun drive a tow truck for this crack whore for an hour. it's really weird and dumb how they keep trying to push this serious crime narrative in GTA when it's totally at odds not just with the playstyle but also literally every other detail they managed to put in the world. When half of the things you're driving by on the way to a Serious Crime for Serious Reasons are covered in cynical parody billboards there's some loving brutal tonal whiplash.
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Dec 21, 2017 14:59
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I don't think it's serious at all... but it also isn't a parody because the underlying structure of the plot isn't challenged. It feels a lot like somebody read a script to a heist movie and decided to make their riffs on the story into the dialogue.
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Dec 21, 2017 15:33
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food court bailiff posted:it's really weird and dumb how they keep trying to push this serious crime narrative in GTA when it's totally at odds not just with the playstyle but also literally every other detail they managed to put in the world. When half of the things you're driving by on the way to a Serious Crime for Serious Reasons are covered in cynical parody billboards there's some loving brutal tonal whiplash. Just  if you think any point in GTA 5, at all, is being 100% serious. Any serious moment in GTA 5 is pretty much like that brief serious moment in a comedy; and make no mistake the game is a massive parody while also kind of being the thing it's parodying. But it's in no way even a little bit serious though. Doubly so since I play the Online side of things a lot and now there's crazy AIs, a flying Delorean and the Batman car.Now GTA 4.. if that's what you're talking about.. that was loving tonal whiplash. That was trying to be serious and have a sympathetic main character who wouldn't have the heart to kill an unarmed bad guy, who would then plow over a sidewalk without giving even a single gently caress. Fortunately GTA 4 did lead to great parodies of this in both Saint's Row 4 and the creation of Trevor in GTA 5, a character designed to literally act 100% consistent between cut scenes and gameplay. No matter which of the characters you favored, there's no arguing Trevor was the most honest with how you were going to act the second the movie ended.. I guess what i'm saying is it totally depends which GTA and the reason 4 is such a.. debatable chapter is how realistic they tried to get. It's more of the exception to the rule since Vice City and San Andreas were of the same comedic tone as 5: 4 was so notable this way a lot of people thought of GTA as the "serious" crime sandbox vs Saint's Row and totally forgot that until 4 GTA itself was a comedy. steinrokkan posted:I don't think it's serious at all... but it also isn't a parody because the underlying structure of the plot isn't challenged. It feels a lot like somebody read a script to a heist movie and decided to make their riffs on the story into the dialogue. Again, guessing you're talking about part 4. Part 5 has missions like "We need a plane so let's steal it off a US Naval Carrier and kill half the crew, FOR AMERICA!" and it seems to know how loving ridiculously stupid it is and revel in it so it's actually kind of fun. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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I've only played like twenty minutes of V and it seemed like more of the same from IV based on the huge marketing campaign, so if they really did dial back the melodrama from IV that's good. But...still kinda too little too late, since it put me off the series and there are other open world crime games that suit my needs these days.
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food court bailiff posted:I've only played like twenty minutes of V and it seemed like more of the same from IV based on the huge marketing campaign, so if they really did dial back the melodrama from IV that's good. But...still kinda too little too late, since it put me off the series and there are other open world crime games that suit my needs these days. It starts out with the most "normal" of the three protagonists. Then you get to Trevor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc ..who single handedly fixes the entire franchise.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i guess autismal nitpicking about jrpgs is, with the mainstreaming of gaming in the last decade, an unpopular video game opinion RPG is such an overused blanket term now. People said JRPG a lot back when the only real type of game that described was DQ or FF-likes, and it seems ridiculous to call loving Yakuza 0 (Dan from Giant Bomb did this a lot) a JRPG. Like its from Japan and it has stats, thats pretty much every loving game made in Japan these days.
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romanowski posted:it's actually extremely hosed up how little love skies of arcadia gets in general I loved SoA but im not gonna pretend that it doesnt have quite a few flaws, especially the drat encounter rate Taht being said I love ship to ship battles and I wish there was more of that kind of stuff in games.
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Dec 21, 2017 16:12
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skies of arcadia always looked cool but the gamecube version was apparently worse somehow and also it's like $160 now with no chance of a rerelease
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Blazing Ownager posted:It starts out with the most "normal" of the three protagonists. Then you get to Trevor: In a way each of the characters represents a different aspect of a GTA protagonist at first. Franklin is a straightforward “wants to get rich and get out of his life” like a GTA character you might expect. Michael is a basically the protagonist of a former GTA game that got rich and retired after running out of stuff to do. And as you say, Trevor is the protagonist that represents how players actually play.
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Dec 21, 2017 16:44
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food court bailiff posted:skies of arcadia always looked cool but the gamecube version was apparently worse somehow and also it's like $160 now with no chance of a rerelease um whoever told you it was worse is lying, it's the same game but with more content, kind of improved graphics, and a noticeably decreased encounter rate (with exp rebalanced to make up for it) the ship battles are great but the regular battle system is pretty good too, it has enough twists to it that it requires at least some thought to strategy beyond just spamming your strongest magic attack. you also get a base halfway through the game that you can build by finding new crew members and I like that kind of stuff
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Blazing Ownager posted:Just The "mini games" including the tow truck missions were seriously boring at least.
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fruit on the bottom posted:In a way each of the characters represents a different aspect of a GTA protagonist at first. i thought they were supposed to represent the protagonists from the three GTA 3 games. Trevor is GTA 3, Michael is vice city and Franklin is san andreas I only played a bit of gta5
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here's an unpopular opinion about futuretech and reviving a lovely dead genre, the MMO: people are doing more poo poo with AI all the time and it's only getting weirder i think the best application of this would be an MMO feed a computer a few D&D manuals from a few different editions, some sci-fi books, and the griefing thread's posts about ultima online and everquest as source material, let it hum away undisturbed by human minds for a few months, and then spin up the servers and explore your surreal worlds where nothing quite makes sense except according to its own internal "logic", and you equip HP as armor in the form of dogs or something absurd like that
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food court bailiff posted:here's an unpopular opinion about futuretech and reviving a lovely dead genre, the MMO: Luckily you don't have to wait for machine learning to experience this, because Space Funeral already exists!
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I think it's super weird that people always lose their minds when Nintendo games feature poo poo that other games already have, and act like Nintendo pioneered it. Like, the hang glider in Zelda. You'd think it was the first game to ever do it with the way people talk about it. Or photo mode in Mario. Like that's a really common feature in games and the Mario one isn't even that robust compared to most of them.
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When something has a large and rabid fanbase, that's pretty par for the course. It's also something that happens when a feature is included in an overall more solid whole. Like how many innovations are credited to Apple/iPhones that were first seen in other phones, but which were just worse/less popular than iPhones overall.
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I'm playing through Final Fantasy 5 right now and it has the best mechanics out of all the FFs through 9 I think. The job system is just way more fun than materia or espers and less obtuse than junctoning. It's just very delightful to play, and with the original graphics, the colors just pop really nicely. FF4, 6, 7, and 9 are fun to think about playing, but 5 will always be more fun to actually sit down and play. I can't stand 8. I got a lovely scratched disc from a blockbuster and can't remember poo poo except it had a weirdly fun card game.
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Oscar Wild posted:I'm playing through Final Fantasy 5 right now and it has the best mechanics out of all the FFs through 9 I think. The job system is just way more fun than materia or espers and less obtuse than junctoning. It's just very delightful to play, and with the original graphics, the colors just pop really nicely. FF4, 6, 7, and 9 are fun to think about playing, but 5 will always be more fun to actually sit down and play. FF5 has some great challenge hack roms, if you want to get even further beyond! one turns the game into a roguelike https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/957/ https://github.com/abyssonym/grand_cross
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Jeza posted:When something has a large and rabid fanbase, that's pretty par for the course. It's also something that happens when a feature is included in an overall more solid whole. Like how many innovations are credited to Apple/iPhones that were first seen in other phones, but which were just worse/less popular than iPhones overall. nintendo and apple both are more about refining existing features than just adding features wholesale that don't really work in their ecosystems yet
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Rutibex posted:FF5 has some great challenge hack roms, if you want to get even further beyond! one turns the game into a roguelike That's awesome, thanks! I first played FF5 in like 1994 or 95 on an emulator but it holds up really well.
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Oscar Wild posted:I'm playing through Final Fantasy 5 right now and it has the best mechanics out of all the FFs through 9 I think. The job system is just way more fun than materia or espers and less obtuse than junctoning. It's just very delightful to play, and with the original graphics, the colors just pop really nicely. FF4, 6, 7, and 9 are fun to think about playing, but 5 will always be more fun to actually sit down and play. Yea, 5 and Tactics are really good because the job system is so robust. Tactics has a bunch of difficulty mods and total conversion mods too. I tried out the infamously difficult FFT romhack and I had trouble even getting through the prolouge battle with gafgarion at the church because all the random NPCs had stuff like Auto-potion and nobody but Gafgarion could do more than 30 damage at a time. Very fun way to start the mod, with a guest battle where you cant control anyone but Ramza and only one of the CPU controlled guests can actually damage anyone
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Theres a total conversion called journey of the Five where you get special characters and jobs for Solid Snake, Ramza, Cloud, Link and Dante, lol
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The Last of Us is possibly the best multiplayer game ever.
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should I buy a 3ds, or a switch?
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Away all Goats posted:should I buy a 3ds, or a switch? There's more games on the 3DS. If you like Monster Hunter, it's either not coming to switch or taking a real long time. Switch has Zelda, though.
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Away all Goats posted:should I buy a 3ds, or a switch? do you not have a smartphone?
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OMGVBFLOL posted:do you not have a smartphone? I do but touchscreen controls are terrible. Also like the vast majority of them are some combination of online-only, free to play, grindy bullshit
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Star Wars: Masters of Teras Kasi was fun and good.
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Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 was the best one
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Away all Goats posted:I do but touchscreen controls are terrible. Also like the vast majority of them are some combination of online-only, free to play, grindy bullshit there's millions of phone games. 99% of them are hot trash, but that still leaves many thousands of really good ones. Just get a $20 Bluetooth controller for you phone if you want to get fancy and avoid the touch screen
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 are one of the worst things to ever happen to gaming.Bf1942: unranked free-for all, tons of mods, gimmick maps, general stupidity Bf2: persistant online ranks that unock weapon that can take MONTHS of grinding. Your progress towards rank only counts on official servers, No more mods, no more custom maps Oh and the Desert Combat mod that went on to become BF2 was better than the finished product.
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BF2 had mods and they were a little bit better than the ones for bf1942 but a lot of desert combat's conceits were a lot more interesting than the ones of bf2(for example, guided weapons being dumbfire weapons with splash was far more interesting gameplay wise than the lockon weapons that any good player could avoid).
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yeah the “stinger” that just used the flak guns’ mechanics was genius
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Pound_Coin posted:
BF1 is one of the shittiest FPS I have ever played. I was actually shocked at how backwards these games have become since the days of Halo 2.
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Pound_Coin posted:
I don't know it suffered the same (this is the unpopular opinion thread) change in feel when Unreal Tournament went from 99 to 2003 or whatnot. It took on a really different feel once people started taking it seriously and I never really got into it again. ED: I did play and enjoy BF3 for a while until I realized that the only usable class was engineer with explosive slugs and an anti-tank weapon and anything else was for suckers.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:yeah the “stinger” that just used the flak guns’ mechanics was genius Motherfuckers need to port searigs and basrah's edge already. I could be wrong, but i think the BF series was the first to move to the persistant ranked account poo poo that every game has now?
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The whole point of Battlefield is dicking around. Who cares about ranked poo poo just get in a tank with some buddies and bs about life. Bad company 2 was top ten MP games ever.
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