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TheNewt
Dec 24, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Imagine if episode 7 had gone full Dragonball Z.

"I wonder who Rey will fuse with next after Finn and Han Solo? Luke or Leia? Do you think she'll succeed at learning to do the spirit bomb technique?"

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Hell I'm interested in what happens in the next movie. The Resistance is smaller than ever, but the First Order has also been couped and seems to be less about taking over the galaxy and more about destruction for its own sake. That's going to be interesting.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

Maxwell Lord posted:

Hell I'm interested in what happens in the next movie. The Resistance is smaller than ever, but the First Order has also been couped and seems to be less about taking over the galaxy and more about destruction for its own sake. That's going to be interesting.

It's being directed by JJ Abrams, OP

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:

Maxwell Lord posted:

Hell I'm interested in what happens in the next movie. The Resistance is smaller than ever, but the First Order has also been couped and seems to be less about taking over the galaxy and more about destruction for its own sake. That's going to be interesting.

Narrator: "It wasn't interesting."

TheNewt
Dec 24, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Luke dies at the beggining of the movie and has to spend the rest of the film training through hell so he can learn to go to super Jedi level 2 and defeat the big bad space genie.

WHY BONER NOW
Mar 6, 2016

Pillbug
I didn't pay attention to spoiler leaks before the movie was released, how accurate were they?

wyoming
Jun 7, 2010

Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

WHY BONER NOW posted:

I didn't pay attention to spoiler leaks before the movie was released, how accurate were they?

Luke saying to Rey "No, you are my father!" Will always be real to me.

f#a#
Sep 6, 2004

I can't promise it will live up to the hype, but I tried my best.
I wasn't a big fan of this one and yeah it felt like it all amounted to nothing. Wow, that Dreadnought is pretty big, right? Oh wow, Snoke's ship is even bigger!

It's just so weird that an entry in Star Wars is so devoted to killing the old religion, yet still embraces its trappings and that the director is signed up for a trilogy that extends past its original vision.

Any way, at the ramming scene a kid piped up right before the explosion with, "did the sound stop?" and I loved that.

Ammanas
Jul 17, 2005

Voltes V: "Laser swooooooooord!"

Fart City posted:

With reactions to TLJ being so extreme, I wonder if that puts Rian Johnson's announced trilogy in jeopardy. I suppose it will ultimately depend on how much business The Last Jedi does, but if that box office dropoff rate continues, it's hard to believe that the Mouse will sign off on such a huge financial venture if it's anything but A Sure Thing.

I genuinely don't understand the business sense of announcing Rian Johnson is going to write/direct a brand new Star Wars trilogy without seeing how TLJ does at least for a month after release. It's a baffling announcement, doubly so after how middling TLJ turned out.

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

God bless the kids who cheered when snoke's bodyguard got thrown in the wood chipper when I saw it. Otherwise the entire audience sat in complete stony silence through the entire rest of the film

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

No Mods No Masters posted:

God bless the kids who cheered when snoke's bodyguard got thrown in the wood chipper when I saw it. Otherwise the entire audience sat in complete stony silence through the entire rest of the film

I'm so happy that the workplace ergonomic nightmares that were star destroyers didn't get touched up in the last 40 years.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

At the thursday evening premiere a dude was yelling things likes "YUUUP." and "exACTly" the whole time and when Benicio pulled up the holo of the xwing he said "THATS AN X WING" which was funny bc it was like an hour into a movie that had an actual x-wing in the first minute of the film. It was some sort of reverse Magritte poo poo and I couldn't even be mad

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

just another posted:

Okay but on the other hand, Rose's message is that you should be motivated by love and not hate. This is not a "centrist" message.

It is worse than that - it's a corporate message.

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

LinYutang posted:

Narrator: "It wasn't interesting."

Narrated and directed by Ron Howard.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I really enjoyed the new star wars movie, I thought the over-arching theme was about how the older generations are near irredeemable poo poo heads, and you have to fight for what you personally believe in. I think you see this when Kylo becomes a better Sith when he decides "I want to destroy things, not rule an empire," which is a nice foil to Rey's own issues with Luke. I gotta say I was a huge fan of Benicio del Toro's character, and him being a pseudo Lando was really fun. It had really good visuals as well, the way the Laser cannon blows open the Rebel base, and it looks like a great gaping wound is a really good set piece.

Luke pointing out that Darth Vader was constantly haunted by Obi Wan and that was why he turned was cool as well. I felt it tied that up nicely.

The Porgi's and the Crystal Critters were adorable, and it's weird it's getting panned because so many of my friends and family seemed to love it, and it's making gang busters in the box office (Yes I know this isn't a sign of quality but still.)

Mymla
Aug 12, 2010

Turtlicious posted:

I really enjoyed the new star wars movie, I thought the over-arching theme was about how the older generations are near irredeemable poo poo heads, and you have to fight for what you personally believe in. I think you see this when Kylo becomes a better Sith when he decides "I want to destroy things, not rule an empire," which is a nice foil to Rey's own issues with Luke. I gotta say I was a huge fan of Benicio del Toro's character, and him being a pseudo Lando was really fun. It had really good visuals as well, the way the Laser cannon blows open the Rebel base, and it looks like a great gaping wound is a really good set piece.

Luke pointing out that Darth Vader was constantly haunted by Obi Wan and that was why he turned was cool as well. I felt it tied that up nicely.

The Porgi's and the Crystal Critters were adorable, and it's weird it's getting panned because so many of my friends and family seemed to love it, and it's making gang busters in the box office (Yes I know this isn't a sign of quality but still.)

Yeah but if you were a True Star Wars Fan you would've hated it :smug:

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Turtlicious posted:

The Porgi's and the Crystal Critters were adorable, and it's weird it's getting panned because so many of my friends and family seemed to love it, and it's making gang busters in the box office (Yes I know this isn't a sign of quality but still.)

It's done well, but the Narrative so far is that it hasn't done well for a Star Wars movie.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wheat Loaf posted:

It's done well, but the Narrative so far is that it hasn't done well for a Star Wars movie.
It's made almost exactly what TFA (+/-20k) did in it's opening weekend.

Mymla posted:

Yeah but if you were a True Star Wars Fan you would've hated it :smug:

:shrug: I think I'm a true star wars fan, because I like Star Wars.

e: Didn't 7 literally break Records? I doubt every Star Wars movie is gonna be a record breaking release.

Turtlicious fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Dec 26, 2017

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Turtlicious posted:

It's made almost exactly what TFA (+/-20k) did in it's opening weekend.

It did, but it had a much larger drop off in the second week (proportionately bigger than Rogue One as well) and seems to have much less favourable word of mouth going for it.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Turtlicious posted:

I really enjoyed the new star wars movie, I thought the over-arching theme was about how the older generations are near irredeemable poo poo heads, and you have to fight for what you personally believe in.

There's nothing to indicate that the new generation also aren't irredeemable poo poo heads, like how Finn and Rose leave children into slavery so that they can go protect their facile resistance movement.

BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Dec 26, 2017

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

There's nothing to indicate that the new generation also aren't irredeemable poo poo heads, like how Finn and Rose leave children into slavery so that they can try to protect their facile resistance movement.

Yeah it would have been much better to bring them back to the resistance fleet so they can get blown up on one of the transports

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

There's nothing to indicate that the new generation also aren't irredeemable poo poo heads, like how Finn and Rose leave children into slavery so that they can go protect their facile resistance movement.

Where would they take them? Into the active War Zone where people are dying by the dozens?

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
There's probably a reason there's no kids in the Resistance.

Not to mention the last few kids to fight for Good turned into war criminals.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Turtlicious posted:

Where would they take them? Into the active War Zone where people are dying by the dozens?

Away all Goats posted:

Yeah it would have been much better to bring them back to the resistance fleet so they can get blown up on one of the transports

The true answer would be simply to free the slaves, and forget about the stupid Resistance. The actual injustice is happening on the casino planet, and it turns out the Resistance didn't even need Finn or Rose.

Phantom Menace also featured the Jedi ignoring slavery, except when they could recruit someone into their bullshit. This is what happens in The Last Jedi: Finn and Rose don't really care about slavery, but create a sympathizer for their false cause.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
I sort of felt like Rose was a completely pointless character. I didn't really dislike her performance or anything(besides rolling my eyes fairly hard at the super canned and awful Rogue One-style ~hope~ and ~love~ lines), I just felt like every single thing her character did in this movie could have been done more interestingly by Poe. Poe and Finn's teamwork and friendship was one of the nicer character points from TFA and I would have liked them to expand on it and showed the two of them working together again instead of introducing another new character who is completely divorced from everyone else except Finn. Using Poe for Rose's role in the movie would have played very nicely into the intended plot point of Poe being a hot-headed moron who needed to be knocked down a peg; he and Finn fly off on the ridiculous mission to get the hacker and infiltrate the Star Destroyer and then get caught and fail and everything goes to poo poo, proving Poe is a hot-headed moron and knocking him down a peg.

Instead, Poe sits on the ship doing nothing for the entire movie besides staging a mutiny that accomplishes absolutely nothing that he suffers absolutely no consequences for and the people he mutinied against are explicitly shown commenting "Yeah he's a swell guy anyway". Seriously, what was the point of this?

Woden
May 6, 2006

Turtlicious posted:

I really enjoyed the new star wars movie, I thought the over-arching theme was about how the older generations are near irredeemable poo poo heads, and you have to fight for what you personally believe in.

I got the opposite vibe, if Poe listened to Leia and admiral purple hair and obeyed orders, they'd all be chilling on a planet instead of losing the entire fleet and almost everyone in the resistance. The audience would also get to skip that meaningless and boring side story to casino planet.

If Kylo listened to Snoke we could have had cool bad guys doing bad guy things instead of emo dude being emo, the fight with the red guards was pretty decent though.

If the last jedi listened to Luke we could have had some cool training montages and maybe learned something about the force, instead we got a lot of crying, like really a lot of crying and a dead Luke.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Wheat Loaf posted:

It did, but it had a much larger drop off in the second week (proportionately bigger than Rogue One as well) and seems to have much less favourable word of mouth going for it.

It dropped off one million dollars more in it's second week than TFA.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
It started off lower than TFA, though.

Noonsa
Jan 18, 2003
For the love of god, anything other than the
Star Wars fan here and I don't have any major problems with this movie. Part of me was disappointed that the new trilogy wasn't more like the world in the Timothy Zahn novels, but what the hell ever.

I also don't get how the First Order/Empire can just keep continuously churning out ever more powerful forces and numbers despite constantly suffering devasting losses, while the Rebel Alliance just kind of gives up and devolves into the Resistance that for some reason has fewer ships than they had after the Battle of Endor. Starkiller Base only blew up max 5 planets in 1 system. What about all the Rebel allies like the Mon Calamari, Wookiees, Sullustans, Nabooans? Wouldn't these guys care that neo-Nazis are going to be in charge again?

Sometimes I think the Chicken Little "OMG Star Wars ruined forever by TLJ" have some valid points, but then I read poo poo where people think that Luke brushing the dust off his shoulder is some hip-hop pop culture reference and then I realize that they are irrational little self-entitled crybabies.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Mymla posted:

Yeah but if you were a True Star Wars Fan you would've hated it :smug:

You're not a true Star Wars fan unless you hate two thirds of all Star Wars movies!

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hobo Clown posted:

You're not a true Star Wars fan unless you hate two thirds of all Star Wars movies!

I really like the Prequels, Obi Wan has an amazing character arc.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Noonsa posted:

I also don't get how the First Order/Empire can just keep continuously churning out ever more powerful forces and numbers despite constantly suffering devasting losses, while the Rebel Alliance just kind of gives up and devolves into the Resistance that for some reason has fewer ships than they had after the Battle of Endor. Starkiller Base only blew up max 5 planets in 1 system. What about all the Rebel allies like the Mon Calamari, Wookiees, Sullustans, Nabooans? Wouldn't these guys care that neo-Nazis are going to be in charge again?

Rian Johnson wrote a movie that’s supposedly about moving on from the past but that ultimately resets the galaxy so that we can watch the tiny band of rebels take on the evil empire forever, op

Descar
Apr 19, 2010
So if suicide lightspeeding is viable and with the First Order thoughts on human lifes,
Why didn't Snoke just empty one of the many Stardestroyers he had and just Suicide one into the crusier and end the movie right there in the beginning.
He didn't even need to lose the dreadnought pointlessly, when is was doomed, they could have just warped it right into the crusier.

I mean, Kamakazi attacks are a number game.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Why has no one considered that no one had attempted the ram before Holdo and she didn't actually know what would happen?

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

Woden posted:

I got the opposite vibe, if Poe listened to Leia and admiral purple hair and obeyed orders, they'd all be chilling on a planet instead of losing the entire fleet and almost everyone in the resistance. The audience would also get to skip that meaningless and boring side story to casino planet.

If Kylo listened to Snoke we could have had cool bad guys doing bad guy things instead of emo dude being emo, the fight with the red guards was pretty decent though.

Nah, they would have been blown to bits by the guns of the ship he destroyed approximately 2 seconds after they were tracked through lightspeed

Poe and the bombers saved the entire resistance

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

TheNewt posted:

Luke dies at the beggining of the movie and has to spend the rest of the film training through hell so he can learn to go to super Jedi level 2 and defeat the big bad space genie.

Now that would be dope

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
EP 9 should be about how Luke's ghost literally haunts Kylo Ren because metaphor is dead

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Steve2911 posted:

Why has no one considered that no one had attempted the ram before Holdo and she didn't actually know what would happen?

They've had Hyperspace travel for at least 70 years and you're telling me nobody ever did it by accident?

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Why build a new Starkiller base? Just start hyperspace ramming TIE fighters into planets that don't join the First Order.

The space battles in Ep.9 should be fun at least with both sides kamikaze-ing each other.

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TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Vintersorg posted:

Gatts, self proclaimed prequel lover, declares TLJ one of the best in the series.

Says it all.

Uh, TLJ is one of the best of the series, the prequels have nothing to do with it.

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