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TalkingPointsMemo - Hard Work Pays Off quote:A feel good story of one of the GOP tax cuts top beneficiaries, Dalton DeVos, nephew of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, son of Amway President Doug DeVos and grandson of Amway co-founder Richard DeVos. Sailing is a tradition in the DeVos family and Dalton has just returned from a two year trip circumnavigating the globe on the 76 foot Reliance along with a small crew. From Michigan Live: “He was still a student at Grand Valley State University when he approached his parents about the idea in 2013. The following year he bought the boat and hired a captain. Nine months after graduating with business and marketing degree in December 2014, he began the journey.” If anyone doesn't know, AmWay is one of the largest pyramid schemes in the U.S. and it protects its operation with dicey legalese. I could link you to a NYT article about "multi-level-marketing" (that is pronounced "pyramid scheme.") But John Oliver's team already did an informative AND funny bit sooo- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI Tax: 
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Moatman posted:Holy poo poo. Too many people in Utah who are too invested in the idea of the world ending and getting to play polite volleyball with Eloheim, Jesus, and Joseph Smith vote to let that ever happen.
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sheep-dodger posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/945624910898122752 No, Donald, they won't. See, Democrats have nothing to lose and everything to gain by monolithically opposing you on all things health care, dumbass.
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Dec 26, 2017 16:07
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KickerOfMice posted:TalkingPointsMemo - Hard Work Pays Off How do you write the words "Hard Work Pays Off" and "he approached his parents about the idea" in the same article without dying of irony?
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Moatman posted:How do you write the words "Hard Work Pays Off" and "he approached his parents about the idea" in the same article without dying of irony? It's Talking Points Memo, which leans comfortably left, especially on the dickery of the rich. It's a smartass headline.
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Is it wrong for me to wish death on the President? I'm pretty sure that a stroke or heart attack is the only thing that will stop the insane senile narcissistic cancer that has been elected President, so if there was a just a loving God looking to prove that He exists......just sayin'
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Dec 26, 2017 16:14
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“Why don’t kids just ask their parents for multimillion dollar loans to start a business?”
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KickerOfMice posted:It's Talking Points Memo, which leans comfortably left, especially on the dickery of the rich. It's a smartass headline. Oh I got TPM and one of the right wing rags that starts with a T confused
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Unoriginal Name posted:Is it wrong for me to wish death on the President? It would be wrong not to, imo
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Dec 26, 2017 16:18
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Moatman posted:Oh I got TPM and one of the right wing rags that starts with a T confused Yeah np. But that bullshit is about as shameless trust-fund-baby as you could possibly get. It would be funny if it wasn't so loving depressing. These are the people who represent you out-of-work coal miner! 
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Dec 26, 2017 16:19
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Alter Ego posted:No, Donald, they won't. See, Democrats have nothing to lose and everything to gain by monolithically opposing you on all things health care, dumbass. this is why they won't
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PerniciousKnid posted:I thought Reid was Mormon. From Nevada. Utah is a much, much different electoral landscape. https://twitter.com/hunterschwarz/status/581548960856215552 Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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KickerOfMice posted:Yeah np. But that bullshit is about as shameless trust-fund-baby as you could possibly get. It would be funny if it wasn't so loving depressing. These are the people who represent you out-of-work coal miner! Speaking of, is the new tax plan still going to gently caress the coal industry in the rear end, or did they fix that?
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Dec 26, 2017 16:22
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Unoriginal Name posted:Is it wrong for me to wish death on the President? you should wish for impeachment and an investigation that topples pence as well, cause a stroke just puts that rear end in a top hat into office.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:this is why they won't  Nothing matters, am I right?
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Boon posted:
just like they didnt cave on daca amirite?
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Last night over Christmas dinner my nuclear family was bitching about Trump and my grandma said “now, be respectful, you’re in a Republican house.” So then she got four earfuls about how her boy is a trash can. She’s a “never questioned a straight-R ticket” republican voter, not a spiteful hate golem, and it’s California so it doesn’t really matter, but sorry grandma, it being Christmas doesn’t mean that you get a pass on watching your only granddaughter burst into tears because your preferred presidential candidate wants her to lose her health insurance.
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Data Graham posted:Speaking of, is the new tax plan still going to gently caress the coal industry in the rear end, or did they fix that? If I remember correctly, In the fossil-fuel game: oil and gas will reap huge benefits, but coal gets hosed because it's a dying industry no matter what happens (coal is used for many things, but not to heat homes anymore/ power transportation), and therefore, not profitable.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:just like they didnt cave on daca amirite? They sucked at one thing so they will suck at every single thing. 
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Mind_Taker posted:“Why don’t kids just ask their parents for multimillion dollar loans to start a business?” Reminds me of that article from earlier this year about 'If I can pay off my student debts in just 3 years, anyone can'. Then it turns out that they did it by living with their parents, being given a job at a non-profit owned by their mother (that paid DC wages in the Midwest) and getting a bunch of rental properties given to them as a wedding gift. Fake Edit: This rear end in a top hat.
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Dec 26, 2017 16:32
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KickerOfMice posted:They sucked at one thing so they will suck at every single thing.
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KickerOfMice posted:If I remember correctly, In the fossil-fuel game: oil and gas will reap huge benefits, but coal gets hosed because it's a dying industry no matter what happens (coal is used for many things, but not to heat homes anymore/ power transportation), and therefore, not profitable. Well right, but there was a thing right after the Senate passed their scribbled-in-the-margins version where a bunch of coal industry owners were all like "Uhh this means we no longer can take the deductions that make us able to turn a profit at all, this means we're basically out of business in months". I assume it was fixed along with the "whoopsie daisy we made it so businesses that take industry standard deductions to get tax breaks now no longer get any better rate than if they didn't deduct anything, ruining entire business models overnight" thing, but I didn't hear anything for sure about it.
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Data Graham posted:Well right, but there was a thing right after the Senate passed their scribbled-in-the-margins version where a bunch of coal industry owners were all like "Uhh this means we no longer can take the deductions that make us able to turn a profit at all, this means we're basically out of business in months". Misunderstood your question. And I've looked, but I cannot find anything relevant either. So yeah, if noone is complaining loudly about how this damages REAL AMERICA, it's probably "fixed" somehow. ^^ 
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Dec 26, 2017 16:37
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It is like this country is run by super villains https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/945642712174333952?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E1
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KickerOfMice posted:TalkingPointsMemo - Hard Work Pays Off I have some inside info on this. The AP article being circulated about his trip is word for word the press release from his family. The kid has literally been loving around for 3 years, going from port to port drinking and golfing and struggling through such hardships as flying commercial airlines occasionally. The interesting thing to me is that the family itself is an incorporated business. The boat thes riding in is able to be written off (along with a lot of expenses) if the family can spin this as a kind of business trip. Like he's gaining management experience or something. It's super loving gross. Ask me anything. The kid is not a bad guy, just so unbelievably sheltered and clueless as to the extent of his privelage. Coelacanthian fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Shifty Pony posted:What's the estimate for next year's health care premium increase due to the individual mandate repeal, >30% right? Dunno about anyone else, but my premium, which is the lowest cost one I could find on my state exchange, went from $427 a month to $635 a month. And that's with a purely idiotic $14k out of pocket before any coverage kicked in at all. I was going to cancel and do without but fortunately my company found a group plan this year so I'll now be paying around $300 a month with a much more reasonable deductible and out of pocket max.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:It is like this country is run by super villains The Republicans were only up in arms about "death panels" because they'd love to shove us all into meat grinders the instant we're no longer capable of making them money.
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They were crying about Death Panels the same time they were cheering the idea of letting people die from lack of health care at GOP debates.
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KickerOfMice posted:It's Talking Points Memo, which leans comfortably left, especially on the dickery of the rich. It's a smartass headline. America is too stupid to recognize irony and will literally believe that rich kids work hard by having their parents take care of everything for them.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:When her and Nick cannon walked into a buzzsaw by antagonizing Eminem it was really funny buzzsaw? lollll
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:It is like this country is run by super villains iraq will always ensure bush is worse but man this kind of poo poo is far more brazen and awful under trump. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:From Nevada. Utah is a much, much different electoral landscape. "He's not really Mormon," "he's only Mormon to get votes," "he'd be excommunicated if he wasn't a senator." Reid is very disliked in Utah.
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Dec 26, 2017 16:59
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KickerOfMice posted:TalkingPointsMemo - Hard Work Pays Off Yes but have you considered that John Oliver is terrible, unfunny, a bad journalist, and ideologically unacceptable
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TheMadMilkman posted:"He's not really Mormon," "he's only Mormon to get votes," "he'd be excommunicated if he wasn't a senator." It's kind of weird to think that an entire state has been taken over by a cult.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yes but have you considered that John Oliver is terrible, unfunny, a bad journalist, and ideologically unacceptable 
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I've woken up from my alcohol-induced coma to tell you that The Ref is the best xmas movie. Okay ty
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it's gremlins.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Yes but have you considered that John Oliver is terrible, unfunny, a bad journalist, and ideologically unacceptable Okay I'll bite why is Oliver now one of the bad ones?
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SSNeoman posted:I've woken up from my alcohol-induced coma to tell you that The Ref is the best xmas movie. Okay ty
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