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KingKalamari posted:So, a few months ago my Wacom 4 from 2010 finally gave up the ghost and I've since been saving up for a replacement. I've done a bit of research and the Wacom Pro seems to be the best I can get in the way of screenless tablets. That said the price tag is sort of turning me off of it but at the same time I worry that going with a cheaper alternative is going to bite me in the rear end in the long run as all the cheaper alternatives I've looked into have way lower levels of pressure sensitivity. I made a living doing solely freelance art/illustration/design for 2 years on a $90 Wacom Bamboo, the main thing I noticed between it and the other higher-end tablets I've owned was that the drawing area was too small for my liking. I'm sure that the extra pressure sensitivity is an improvement but unless you're going directly from 512 to 2048 or so you probably won't notice the difference. I would purchase a medium Wacom Intuos 3 again in a heartbeat if I could find a driver for it on Mac OSX. Right now my wife has inherited that tablet on her Windows machine and despite being over 12 years old it's still in perfect working order.
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Neon Noodle posted:Sketchable is cool and good. There's also great app with infinite drawing canvas called Mischief ($15). I'll second this. I've been using CSP for about a year and a half and I absolutely love it, not to mention that it's a bargain compared to other similar options.
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I switched from the Huion H610 pro to the new line of Wacom Intuos pro (which I'm pretty sure is what you're talking about?) a few months ago and... eh. It is definitely better but probably not 500% like the price difference would imply. Other than the tilt (which I mostly barely even notice, although that could mean I'm using it wrong) the big upgrade is the rougher texture, which does feel great to draw on, but mostly when your nibs haven't been worn down to a flat edge, which it will do to them absurdly quickly compared to a normal tablet surface. Plus the nibs are a new proprietary type that happen to be way more expensive than the old type. Also I wouldn't say the pressure sensitivity difference isn't noticeable, but 2000 to 8000 is less of a leap than 1000 to 2000 was for me. I can get more detail in slightly more easily and it feels a bit smoother, but I don't think it makes or breaks the tablet by itself. The Intuos pro is the better tablet in lots of fairly appreciable ways, but the H610 pro is more than good enough, and if the price is a big concern like you're saying I'd say it should be your pick. Unless you really love tilt; I should probably figure out what I'm doing wrong on that. fake edit: well maybe not the H610 pro, I bought that like 3 years ago so there might be other better non-Wacom picks at this point. I can attest the H610 pro works fine on modern hardware and is a good tablet though. Koramei fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:You sign up via iTunes and you get charged every month. I think tomorrow is the deadline to sign up and get the first 6 months free They’ve removed the deadline FYI, it’s now free for 6 months anytime then a sub after that.
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Decided to save myself some money and not get another Cintiq. I literally have no space for the thing now that I have the dual monitor setup I want. I think a Intuos Pro Large should do the trick. Going to prop it up on a binder at a nice angle and call it a day.
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I'm still using my Intuos 3 at home, and a 4 at work. They might be a little pricey but they sure last a hell of a long time.
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Anyone got the $30 case for the Apple Pencil? How durable is the pencil by itself?
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Koramei posted:Anyone got the $30 case for the Apple Pencil? How durable is the pencil by itself? The Pencil is amazingly durable. I wish it was shorter and maybe with a 'not-insane' charging method, but durability has never been in question.
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Pencil really holds up. I’ve been smashing it around the world in carry on bags, backpacks, I’ve easily stepped in it a few times: and it just keeps going. Also, to prevent dealing with charging the pen awkwardly, or running out of ipad battery 5 hours into a flight, I picked up a Mophie USB-C XXL. It has 3 USB inputs and will charge an ipad pro (or give it an additional 20 hours of life) i also use it to charge the pen, blue tooth headphones, ect. It’s 19,500 mAh All I need now is a decent case for my Ipad pro with a pencil holder on it. That will be my next search
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Mne nravitsya posted:Also, to prevent dealing with charging the pen awkwardly, or running out of ipad battery 5 hours into a flight, I picked up a Mophie USB-C XXL. It has 3 USB inputs and will charge an ipad pro (or give it an additional 20 hours of life) i also use it to charge the pen, blue tooth headphones, ect. It’s 19,500 mAh You mention 3 USB inputs, so it's this $80 one right? I ask since the Apple store is advertising a a different one by the same brand that's $150, but with the same amount of charge and actually less inputs for cables? Is there actually something better about it or is this just the Apple tax?
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Looks like the cheaper one doesn't have the port on the left seen here. Looks like maybe it uses that port to charge itself in this picture. That may just be a micro usb, I await more goon testimonial.
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Strange question but does anyone feel a shift in work productivity when switching from a laptop (or hybrid) to a full tablet computer? I guess I am wondering if I go with a tablet PC, will I feel compelled to paint / sculpt more? Also - a related question: The Samsung ATIV and the Asus Zenbook both look like pretty good hybrids. Does anyone have any strong opinions about them? The Samsung has a wacom digitizer I believe. They seem like cheaper alternatives to the surface book and actually include ports! The idea of carrying a breakout box (with the surface book) every time I want to connect to a monitor / projector / TV is a little absurd. Of course the mobile studio pro seems to have a similar problem in that you need a usb-c to hdmi adapter (?!?) to connect to an external video source. REALLY? No stand, no keyboard AND no video output? You even need to buy a "wacom link" product to use the mobile studio as an external tablet / cintiq. The research continues... sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Jan 5, 2018 22:09
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Just unplug your ethernet when you want to work for that boost to productivity
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sigma 6 posted:Strange question but does anyone feel a shift in work productivity when switching from a laptop (or hybrid) to a full tablet computer? My best drawing productivity is at a purpose built workspace with a desktop, cintiq or similar, and a good stereo or great studio monitor headphones. Throw on some clill no vocals music and draw away. The rest of the world is for photography, reference or otherwise. That space is for me.
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Koramei posted:You mention 3 USB inputs, so it's this $80 one right? I ask since the Apple store is advertising a a different one by the same brand that's $150, but with the same amount of charge and actually less inputs for cables? Is there actually something better about it or is this just the Apple tax? This is the one I have. It has 3 inputs. It also works as a pass through unit for when I have access to a plug on business flights. I got it for $99 and it has successfully charged my ipad pro multiple tmes from near dead on long travel. http://www.mophie.com/shop/powerstation-XXL
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windex posted:My best drawing productivity is at a purpose built workspace with a desktop, cintiq or similar, and a good stereo or great studio monitor headphones. I hear you about the music. I can’t work without the right kind of music to set the mood for whatever I’m working on. When I’m traveling a lot and mostly using my ipad pro and procreate for idea generation, I picked up a pair of Bose QC-35 and crank the music in them and draw for hours on end. I’m sure there are some people who may not like this brand of headphones (these are not studio grade mastering cans) - but for the many hours of comfort, price and sound isolation during travel - I’ve never been happier. Especially because I listen to a lot of classical scores or dark ambient for some of types of work I do
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I'm buying a tablet for someone as a gift. They've never owned a drawing tablet and exclusively do pencil drawings. I have no idea what to buy for them. I know they want an ipad pro, but they also want a drawing tablet and also don't know that much about them. I did some research and asked a few friends, but it's hard to sort through the information. I wouldn't mind people weighing in on a 10.5 ipad pro vs a low-mid level Huion vs similarly priced wacom vs alternatives. Budget isn't a huge consideration, but it kind of is because they aren't even sure they will like drawing on a tablet. The ipad pro would be notably more expensive than whatever tablet I buy, I was thinking $200 tops on a drawing tablet vs the ~$690 a 10.5 ipad pro would cost. Khorne fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jan 7, 2018 |
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It might suck at first, but they will like drawing on a tablet if they stick with it. Especially for someone that just does pencil drawings (aka me in highschool), it lets you do the same thing but better, since there's even less to worry about when you mess up, which is already one of the main appeals of pencils. I haven't got one yet (but I hopefully will in a few weeks!) but I'm pretty certain for raw drawing the iPad Pro is better than anything- it'll absolutely clown any Huion or the like, and by most accounts I've read is better than even a top-end Wacom Cintiq (their best tablets, or at least most expensive), although it has limitations in what you can do with it (less illustration program options) compared to a traditional tablet, since it's iOS. That said, remember that you have to stick an extra $100 even onto the ~$690, since the Apple Pencil doesn't come included with it. If that price rules it out, my recommendation'd be the Huion H610 Pro. Or maybe there's a newer one out by now (it's a few years old), but that one is still good and works and is in approximate ways (especially for a beginner) comparable to the $350 Wacom Intuos Pro. If you wanna splurge a bit and not give them a $70 tablet when they were expecting a $700 iPad Pro then the Intuos Pro line (the cheapest option is $250) is better in a number of appreciable ways, but the H610 Pro is still a good tablet and markedly better than Wacom's cheapest offerings. Also, get them Clip Studio. Koramei fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jan 8, 2018 |
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Clip Studio is nice but cramped. Maybe its better on the huge ipad pro screen, but its basically the pc interface mushed into a tablet. At least you can try before you buy tho.
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Yeah the main drawback to the iPad pro is just lack of more intense pro software features, if the want to treat it like just a digital sketchbook though it is great, procreate has really good pencil brush settings. If you're willing to buy used you can get good deals, I got the 12 inch first gen pro on S.A. mart for $400. Alternative to that, maybe try one of the smaller tablet monitors, like the 13 or 16 inch xp pen or artisul tablets. The upside to the iPad though is that if they don't love drawing on it, at least it's still an iPad.
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Oh I meant Clip Studio for PC.
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Synthbuttrange posted:Clip Studio is nice but cramped. Maybe its better on the huge ipad pro screen, but its basically the pc interface mushed into a tablet. At least you can try before you buy tho.
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Koramei posted:If that price rules it out, my recommendation'd be the Huion H610 Pro. Or maybe there's a newer one out by now (it's a few years old), but that one is still good and works and is in approximate ways (especially for a beginner) comparable to the $350 Wacom Intuos Pro. If you wanna splurge a bit and not give them a $70 tablet when they were expecting a $700 iPad Pro then the Intuos Pro line (the cheapest option is $250) is better in a number of appreciable ways, but the H610 Pro is still a good tablet and markedly better than Wacom's cheapest offerings. Specifically, the nib and texture situation for the tablet seems awful. Has that improved since it came out? Khorne fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jan 8, 2018 |
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The smallest model Intuos Pro is still the old one from before they added the new texture surface/pen if that's a big concern. On the newer ones the texture hasn't been changed, but you can buy a smoother surface to change it out with from the Wacom store if you need to. It's really only sorta awful though... for actually drawing on, it's really fantastic; the issue is it wears the nibs out stupidly quickly. Like, I wore the nib out in a day's use to the amount that took me like a month or two on my Huion before that. Now I've adjusted a bit and don't press as hard it's not so extreme, but you will burn through nibs faster and they're a new more expensive type too so that's fun. I can definitely see the concern (especially for I presume someone who's a teenager who won't be able to replace them thoughtlessly) but even though it sounds awful compared to old tablets, if you think about it vs the price of buying actual physical art pencils it's still super cheap. And the new texture genuinely is really nice to draw on.
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I've been using Procreate for over a year and just watched some videos on the various tricks and it's a whole lot more desktopy than I realized. I really missed line smoothing in Art Rage and didn't even realize it was an option in Procreate.
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Yeah it's available but ProCreate's line smoothing is hot garbage when compared to Clip Studio's. I can't stand it.
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Wacom is showing off 24" and 32" 4k Cintiqs at CES. God drat.
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It seems like they know they'll never compete with the affordable tier of tablet monitors aimed at aspiring/independent artists that are constantly getting bigger and more competitive, so they want to push the high end as ultra deluxe as possible so they still dominate one chunk of the market Like when there started being way more options than just them with cintiqs I thought 'oh this'll force them to be more competitive or innovative' and they kinda did but just by pushing the size/resolution as much as possible Wowporn fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Not sure if I'm better asking this here or in the iPad thread, I've tried searching around for an answer without much luck. Does anyone know of a way to turn an iPad Pro + Pencil into a traditional big blank trackpad graphics tablet for a MacBook Pro rather than the Astropad / Cintiq-style screen mirroring affair? It's a bit backwards, I guess, but I've coloured my artwork with an Intuos Pro for so long that I'd like to have that functionality on the go. Astropad feels a bit too fiddly.
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I’m trying to comprehend why you wouldn’t just buy an Intuos instead of trying to shoehorn reverse functionality into the iPad
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I know it's a bit of a niche use case but I generally travel with my MacBook and iPad in a laptop bag together. My Wacom tablet is permanently set up at an iMac in my studio (and is too big to fit in the bag anyway). I was hoping that I could use the stuff I'm carrying anyway to roughly replicate my colouring workflow on-the-go. I've got a lovely wee Bamboo tablet that I sometimes take with me but it's one more thing to remember for a pretty occasional use case.
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Ah ok that makes way more sense and I feel your pain because I used to travel with my MBP and a 13” Cintique. Sorry no answer but what applications are you using?
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Anyone here buy a usb-C pcie card to eliminate the extra cords and adapter for the Cintiq pros?Wowporn posted:So the latest windows 10 update hosed up my tablet monitor working properly so I installed the latest drivers for it from this year, but now it's doing that thing where moving the pen around on the tablet monitor just moves the cursor on my main monitor. I remember having this issue way back when I got it but I don't remember how I fixed it. All the stuff I've found from googling say to mess around in wacom tablet settings but mine is a UG 2150b not a cintiq so I'm not sure how to mess with the comparable thing. Anyone in here know? I'm sure switching my main monitor would help but I don't wan't to have to do that every time I want to use clip studio. Isn't that basically mirror mode, or duplicate display mode? Try changing it to extend displays, that way your PC registers the 2 displays as on big canvas but the pen tablet shouldn't move a cursor on your main monitor. I think. I disconnected my old table long ago. Electricb7 fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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So the latest windows 10 update hosed up my tablet monitor working properly so I installed the latest drivers for it from this year, but now it's doing that thing where moving the pen around on the tablet monitor just moves the cursor on my main monitor. I remember having this issue way back when I got it but I don't remember how I fixed it. All the stuff I've found from googling say to mess around in wacom tablet settings but mine is a UG 2150b not a cintiq so I'm not sure how to mess with the comparable thing. Anyone in here know? I'm sure switching my main monitor would help but I don't wan't to have to do that every time I want to use clip studio. FE: switching which monitor was my main display did not make the problem go away so I dunno
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Wowporn posted:So the latest windows 10 update hosed up my tablet monitor working properly so I installed the latest drivers for it from this year, but now it's doing that thing where moving the pen around on the tablet monitor just moves the cursor on my main monitor. I remember having this issue way back when I got it but I don't remember how I fixed it. All the stuff I've found from googling say to mess around in wacom tablet settings but mine is a UG 2150b not a cintiq so I'm not sure how to mess with the comparable thing. Anyone in here know? I'm sure switching my main monitor would help but I don't wan't to have to do that every time I want to use clip studio. It sounds like your tablet is set to recognize the wrong monitor to draw on. Seems like you need to do the stuff from p. 5-8 of this manual to set it back to the proper monitor.
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Electricb7 posted:Anyone here buy a usb-C pcie card to eliminate the extra cords and adapter for the Cintiq pros? You need a USB-C port that does video for this, and that's highly system board / video card dependent. The only box I have gotten that to work on came from Dell for use with the Canvas and was one of only three models of alienware box that had the capability, the implication being that their non-alienware boxes couldn't do it. And to find that out I had to actually call them and talk to a human being who could escalate the inquiry to someone who knew.
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windex posted:You need a USB-C port that does video for this, and that's highly system board / video card dependent. So you are saying I just have to find a usb-c pcie card that's good enough, or a specific one to place on my motherboard? Or are there more factors than just finding the right usb-c pcie card?
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Djeser posted:It sounds like your tablet is set to recognize the wrong monitor to draw on. Seems like you need to do the stuff from p. 5-8 of this manual to set it back to the proper monitor. Thanks, I had forgotten there was a thing on the toolbar for changing that stuff
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