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Smythe posted:i dont really have a huge academic analysis of this pile of garbage, but i can say for certain that there is no artistry in this movie Assuming you're not just trolling for attention, given the critical reception, how do you square your (professional?) opinion that TLJ is completely without objective merit with the vast majority of critics who review movies for a living soundly disagreeing with you? After all, you haven't said "TLJ just isn't my taste" or "TLJ disappointed me because I was looking for more X, Y, and Z", you've made sweeping and categoric condemnations of the entire craft of the film. So is everyone else just stupid but you?  edit: Don't worry, I'm getting schooled below on citing RT... 
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No you see professional film critics can't be trusted because they all received giant mouse shaped cheques to give the film positive reviews. Only the 1s and 10s posted by illiterates and bots truly reflect the film's quality.
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Dec 27, 2017 15:01
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mary had a little clam posted:Assuming you're not just trolling for attention, given the critical reception, how do you square your (professional?) opinion that TLJ is completely without objective merit with the vast majority critics who review movies for a living soundly disagreeing with you? What's helpful is actually reading those reviews that make up the score, because you'll quickly notice that they tend to be badly written. A lot of them are just plot synopses with some sketchily-argued points. Not a few of the positive ones are only lukewarm (lol) on the movie. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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Dec 27, 2017 15:06
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mary had a little clam posted:Assuming you're not just trolling for attention, given the critical reception, how do you square your (professional?) opinion that TLJ is completely without objective merit with the vast majority critics who review movies for a living soundly disagreeing with you? Don't use Rotten Tomatoes to bolster any kind of argument you're making regarding the quality of a film. It just makes you look really dumb. I say this as someone who loving loves TLJ too.
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Dec 27, 2017 15:10
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Well then educate me (seriously): Does RT not aggregate general critical reception? Is it aggregating a bunch of non-serious dipshit critics or something? I assumed the "top critics" tomatometer was a little more trustworthy but sounds like I'm missing something... (and I know RT doesn't have a bearing on the QUALITY of a film, I was strictly talking about critical reception)
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Dec 27, 2017 15:20
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The thing with RT is that if every critic thinks a film was just ok it'll end up with 100%. It's only really useful for identifying really lovely films and maybe divisive ones.
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Dec 27, 2017 15:26
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Fair enough, that hadn't occurred to me. 
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Dec 27, 2017 15:32
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Not dogpiling here but the other thing is that very few professional critics write their reviews with any sort of analysis that would inform us about their thoughts on a deeper level; they all tend to be “i liked it (or not)” on top of a plot summary
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Dec 27, 2017 15:54
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Check the average score on RT if you want to get an idea of quality.
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Dec 27, 2017 16:37
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McCloud posted:Haha, look at this dork, unironically enjoying star wars. What a tool. Let's point and laugh at his poor taste. Hah! i love to unironically enjoy star wars
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Dec 27, 2017 16:39
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exquisite tea posted:There's never going to be an auteur Star Wars movie because the only story it can tell is overmatched rebels versus big evil empire, forever, and every new film is just going to hit the reset button in perpetuity. The prequels were better..?!
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I’m beginning to think that the Jedi in the Auralnauts prequel trilogy is how everyone but the Jedi in the Star Wars galaxy saw them. gently caress now I really can’t wait episode 6 of that series. Instant Sunrise fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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Dec 27, 2017 18:14
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fridge corn posted:i love to unironically enjoy star wars Good for you man. I disliked TLJ, but I'm happy others could see it and enjoy the Star Wars magic.
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Dec 27, 2017 18:20
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Raxivace posted:Wait are there people watching Star Wars for naturalism Theyre using the wrong word to describe the dialogue & delivery. The word is awful. Star Wars drips earnestness and authenticity, at least the OT does. PT is stilted and fake, New Trilogy is trash, replete with irony and Marvel-esque self-cutdowns
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Dec 27, 2017 18:26
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Ammanas posted:Theyre using the wrong word to describe the dialogue & delivery. The word is awful. Star Wars drips earnestness and authenticity, at least the OT does. PT is stilted and fake, New Trilogy is trash, replete with irony and Marvel-esque self-cutdowns 99.99% of movie dialogue is fake. People don't talk like that.
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Dec 27, 2017 18:38
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The gently caress? The Prequels are earnest as gently caress. So much so that it scares Star Wars fans.
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Dec 27, 2017 18:52
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Richard Brody disliked both the new films and liked the Prequels Prequels are good
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Detective No. 27 posted:The gently caress? The Prequels are earnest as gently caress. So much so that it scares Star Wars fans. It’s scary how boring they are.
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Dec 27, 2017 18:59
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I think they're fun.
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sassassin posted:99.99% of movie dialogue is fake. Fucka yousa weesa don't!
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Dec 27, 2017 19:01
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Here you go guys:
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PriorMarcus posted:Here you go guys: awww yeeessss
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Dec 27, 2017 20:00
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I was thinking earlier that the movie they should have given to Lord and Miller was Lego Star Wars: The Movie.
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Ammanas posted:Theyre using the wrong word to describe the dialogue & delivery. The word is awful. Star Wars drips earnestness and authenticity, at least the OT does. PT is stilted and fake, New Trilogy is trash, replete with irony and Marvel-esque self-cutdowns It's completely fine to not like a certain performance and art style, but don't lie. "Fake" is a completely absurd way to describe something in movies, which are all fake. Watch this scene and tell me if James Dean's character Jim Stark reminds you of any Star Wars character and then ask whether you think the similarity is intentional or not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBOcWFBBB04
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Dec 27, 2017 20:18
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Wheat Loaf posted:I was thinking earlier that the movie they should have given to Lord and Miller was Lego Star Wars: The Movie. That'd be rad but Disney and WB won't be up for such a collab.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:28
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PriorMarcus posted:Here you go guys: I really dig the design for the Falcon. Seeing how it looked new really sells how the ship is "currently" a pile of garbage.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:31
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Schwarzwald posted:I really dig the design for the Falcon. Seeing how it looked new really sells how the ship is "currently" a pile of garbage. I like everything except the longer mandibles because it doesn't really make much sense. It's a freighter. I preferred the EU explanation for the Falcoln's shape.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:35
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Steve2911 posted:That'd be rad but Disney and WB won't be up for such a collab. A shame. If they were going to collaborate on anything, I'd much rather it was Lego Star Wars than something like Avengers vs Justice League.
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PriorMarcus posted:I like everything except the longer mandibles because it doesn't really make much sense. It's a freighter. I preferred the EU explanation for the Falcoln's shape. They're not quite "mandibles" anymore. They're connected into a single wedge, like a little Star Destroyer.
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PriorMarcus posted:Here you go guys: Ugh, how are they gonna explain the YT-1300 cameos in Attack of the Clones and Revenge is the Sith?!
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Dec 27, 2017 20:59
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Kart Barfunkel posted:Ugh, how are they gonna explain the YT-1300 cameos in Attack of the Clones and Revenge is the Sith?! In the old "Legends" wasn't the YT-1300 we see in RotS actually meant to be the Falcon itself?
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Waffles Inc. posted:In the old "Legends" wasn't the YT-1300 we see in RotS actually meant to be the Falcon itself? Under a different name (Stellar Envoy) at the time, but yeah; same ship.
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The MSJ posted:Based on the "breast" wookiepedia page, some people might want Star Wars naturism instead. Big naturalism
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PriorMarcus posted:Here you go guys: Han and Lando in the mooooorning!
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Rey has a cracken rear end.
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I Before E posted:Big naturalism Sadly Russ Meyer passed before we could get "Faster, Nexu, Kill! Kill!"
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Kart Barfunkel posted:Ugh, how are they gonna explain the YT-1300 cameos in Attack of the Clones and Revenge is the Sith?! Kenner's got you covered. There's removable poo poo that can slot right into the front. 
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Waffles Inc. posted:
All of them. All of it. All of it. Happy to help! Also, the tone sucks.
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CountFosco posted:All of them. All of it. All of it. Cool talk OP glad we could discuss the movie
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I used to have a review for the phantom menace on imdb that I could copy and paste for you but it got flagged by to many people for being honest. It all sucks. The onus is not on us to demonstrate that, as that is the consensus opinion. It is on the prequel defenders to show us that there is something worthwhile in there. So far all that we've received is the eisegesis of one supermechagodzilla, an impressive little bit of sophistry, but a piece of analysis which commends the analyst more than the analysand.
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