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BIG MEATY SHITS
Mar 13, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Soiled Meat

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

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Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

There Bias Two posted:

Yeah but the food pyramid is not based on accurate science either, therefore screwing up the model.

You're right, but the point is that an accurate model would likely lead to worse outcomes here.

If we took the pyramid out of the equation, we'd lose a lot of the effects of lobbying from industry. Industry wants people to buy higher-priced foods they don't actually, technically need to survive or even have a nutritionally balanced meal (things like red meat). So, the effect of keeping the food pyramid as an input is that the food basket prices are higher, leading to a bit more money for SNAP. SNAP doesn't have any requirements that say "you must eat X grams of red meat/milk/whatever per day;" it's just cashlike assistance for food. The end result is more money for people who really, really need it - and some amount of counterbalance against higher-than-average prices.

I'm not saying that it's a good or even sensible system. But, in this case, it has a positive effect, just because it increases the total number of dollars that people can get from SNAP.

Classtoise
Feb 11, 2008

THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

It is kinda silly, but the fact Hillary won, and Obama beat Trump gives me great joy. I kinda hope Fox News talks about it, if even in passing, for the shitstorm of tweets we'll get.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

If you still like Obama you might not necessarily think he's the most admirable person in the world. If you still like Trump you really like Trump.

Coelacanthian
Dec 23, 2008

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

I mean, the whole concept of that poll is :jerkbag: as hell - it's nice to see that 9% name someone they know as opposed to appealing to various cults of personality. The rest of that list is pretty much :suicide:

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

One of them is President of the United States of America, and the other hangs around his house playing video games. There's an excitement gap.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Mystic Mongol posted:

One of them is President of the United States of America, and the other hangs around his house playing video games. There's an excitement gap.

It's ok I suck at proper tense too.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Classtoise posted:

It is kinda silly, but the fact Hillary won, and Obama beat Trump gives me great joy. I kinda hope Fox News talks about it, if even in passing, for the shitstorm of tweets we'll get.

Hillary has actually won for most of a decade and a half running. IIRC she won every year through the Bush years.

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Dec 27, 2017

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Republicans posted:

If you still like Obama you might not necessarily think he's the most admirable person in the world. If you still like Trump you really like Trump.

Like how Fox news gets such good ratings: half the country watches multiple sources and half the country MUST WATCH FOX NEWS IT'S THE ONLY SOURCE FOR REAL NEWS!!!!

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Duke Igthorn posted:

Like how Fox news gets such good ratings: half the country watches multiple sources and half the country MUST WATCH FOX NEWS IT'S THE ONLY SOURCE FOR REAL NEWS!!!!
Also, Obama got roughly 20% more votes than Trump, even though his share of the total was only 3% more.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

It wasn't head to head

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Ravenfood posted:

Also, Obama got roughly 20% more votes than Trump, even though his share of the total was only 3% more.

The electoral college strikes again.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that's wild they never do tthose "trump country" articles in places like my town which has an average household income of like 80,000 and pretty much avoided the recession completely yet still went for trump despite being in one of the bluest states.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

Ague Proof posted:

The electoral college strikes again.

Actually, this is why proportional representation is clearly the best....

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Duke Igthorn posted:

Like how Fox news gets such good ratings: half the country watches multiple sources and half the country MUST WATCH FOX NEWS IT'S THE ONLY SOURCE FOR REAL NEWS!!!!

I wanna push real hard on this point: It's not actually half the country and the "every side always has equal numbers of people' isn't actually true.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







paternity suitor posted:

It's also kinda weird that the most nutrient dense part of animals (organ meats) are the cheapest and "least desirable" here in the US.

back during the nixon administration when we still had shortages of food, he did an entire ad campaign on the benefits of eating liver, since there was a beef shortage.

People were not pleased.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
liver is good though

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

liver is good though

Americans don't know how to cook it and think pate/other prepared versions are 'icky.'

Plus there's this weird cultural sensitivity about liver and onions, as if it's something everyone's grandfather liked to have and forced on everyone else.

It sucks because it means less restaurants and stores carry it and various other organ meats. It's awesome because some of the tastiest cuts of meat out there remain inexpensive.

I challenge anyone that likes good food (Soylent guy this does not include you) but not organ meat to go to a Japanese head-to-tail restaurant. Prepare to be amazed.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Scipiotik posted:

The one thing Trump is good at is getting his name on buildings, so this makes sense.

We know he considers having his name/brand everywhere to be the primary driver of his worth, would naming a rail station after him be a foreign emolument? :thunk:

Magitek
Feb 20, 2008

That's not jolly.
That's not jolly at all!

BIG MEATY SHITS posted:

the gently caress did he only beat trump by 3%?

17 is about 21% higher than 14 fwiw

Zisky
May 6, 2003

PM me and I will show you my tits
Plus when you eat tongue you're tasting it while it tastes you!

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Mummy Xzibit posted:


I challenge anyone that likes good food (Soylent guy this does not include you) but not organ meat to go to a Japanese head-to-tail restaurant. Prepare to be amazed.

I can vouch for this. Inadvertently had tongue, liver, tripe, and some other stuff (never got a good translation and what I remember the name being doesn't translate to anything) at a yakiniku place because I'mma dumb gaijin and just ordered whatever looked best in the picture.

Thin strips of grilled anything covered in sauces are like easy mode for eating tho...

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nranUeNkXpM

:kiss:

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Mummy Xzibit posted:

Plus when you eat tongue you're tasting it while it tastes you!

French kissing your food.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Seph posted:

Why is it being promoted as a food assistance program if we're going to allow people to spend the money however they please?

Any decent person would agree that food is a basic human right, but it's a much harder sell to convince people to pay for others' video games (or whatever else). If people get on board with the program thinking they're helping people with food only to find out they're buying the next installment of Call of Duty, I can understand why they'd be upset and think the program is being abused.

Note that I'm not arguing for or against this, just pointing out an inconsistency. I don't personally care, but I was surprised to learn that it was possible to cash out food stamps.

I'm having trouble understanding the logic in making a program worse in order to appease people who oppose it for irrational reasons.

Do you really think people who are irrationally opposed to SNAP will come around and start liking it if you make a good faith effort to address their concerns, or do you think they will just seize on the next anecdote of poors abusing in order to justify their opposition.

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

LoL @ people who have never been on food assistance.

Listen,

You can find a way to make a small amount of money off of your SNAP income one way or another. Not enough to call it a profit, really, and probably not enough to make any bold purchases either. You could probably save up for a month to buy a new videogame. Not to mention the social shame of selling loving food (do you know anybody in your network who would buy steaks from you instead of, say, the grocery store?), which you're also probably selling at a loss. Let me ask you a better question:

What do you think incentives a person to go through all that work? It isn't being lazy, I'll tell you that much.

You can turn anything into money. You can outlaw the cashout option in every state if you wanted to (you shouldn't, there are a ton of good reasons to let people get cash, not the least of which there are places that don't accept EBT). You could hire aggressive case workers who audit purchases (you shouldn't, it would likely cost far more than the SNAP program itself). Or you could just accept that there is no way to police how people spend money once you give it to them and understand that people are making informed choices - they would rather, for instance in this case - sacrifice their health to feel a little happier. Depression is a real thing in impoverished households. It can be amazingly bleak even when everyone is nutritionally secure, making ends meet, and staring at the loving wall because they are bored to death, waiting to go to sleep so they can do it all again tomorrow.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person


gently caress this guy so hard. "Keep my daughter happy"...He's just oozing patriarchal bullshit on top of all the MAGA sludge.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

I'm the subtext that his kid didn't want to spend Christmas with him lmfao

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i really hope the guy's so dumb he misspelled dustin. what the gently caress kinda name is dustan.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Groovelord Neato posted:

i really hope the guy's so dumb he misspelled dustin. what the gently caress kinda name is dustan.

Names change over time. See any of the thousands of -dyns born this year.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Phobic Nest posted:

In the end I didn't care what the guy's dumbass to jackass ratio was, I just left (and eventually so did the rest of my coworkers). Too bad leaving this country or ultimately planet won't be that easy.

It is better to just assume it's impossible because the idea of having a second planet to escape to is a bit like thinking there will be a god that can fix all this broken poo poo.

We can't escape so we have to do what we can to change the world we have.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


There Bias Two posted:

Names change over time. See any of the thousands of -dyns born this year.

those people all have stupi dnames too lol

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Groovelord Neato posted:

i really hope the guy's so dumb he misspelled dustin. what the gently caress kinda name is dustan.

Yeah this struck me as odd as well. I think it’s a safe bet to assume trump voter=loving idiot.

Solenna
Jun 5, 2003

I'd say it was your manifest destiny not to.

On the subject of SNAP, as a Canadian, there's a different program that does formula and diapers and wipes for babies right? Because gently caress that stuff adds up quick.

Do any assistance programs cover tampons/pads/cups?

and ugh at the very concept of red pilling your daughter's boyfriend. Let's try and make our kid's significant other a worse person for them!

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Solenna posted:

Do any assistance programs cover tampons/pads/cups?

hahahahaha

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Solenna posted:

On the subject of SNAP, as a Canadian, there's a different program that does formula and diapers and wipes for babies right? Because gently caress that stuff adds up quick.

Do any assistance programs cover tampons/pads/cups?

I think this is starting to change, but feminine hygiene products have been generally ignored by assistance programs.

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008


i'm the conversation the boyfriend has with the daughter about the dad problem

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/946106492616368128

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