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Evil Mastermind posted:Merry Christmas, you goddamn nerds. merry chrysler
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My FLGS owner might be the dumbest mother fucker on the planet. I have no idea how this mother fucker's been in business still after four years.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:37
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Star Man posted:My FLGS owner might be the dumbest mother fucker on the planet. I have no idea how this mother fucker's been in business still after four years.
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Dec 27, 2017 02:53
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Star Man posted:My FLGS owner might be the dumbest mother fucker on the planet. I have no idea how this mother fucker's been in business still after four years. I’m guessing he’s one of those owners who clearly only set up the store as an excuse to get paid for playing games with his buddies all day? (Much in the way that most lovely dive bars exist because the owner though “owning a bar” meant “my buddies and I drink free forever”)
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Dec 27, 2017 08:36
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So Steve Jackson Games is re-releasing The Fantasy Trip again? I’m asking only because a lot of elfgame nerds seem real excited about it and I have no idea what it is. Anyone play it?
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Dec 27, 2017 09:01
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Simian_Prime posted:So Steve Jackson Games is re-releasing The Fantasy Trip again? It's proto-GURPS, and can basically only be a nostalgia/one-off curiosity thing because otherwise who cares. It sounds like they literally just got the rights, so it's probably a fair way off from release even if it's just going to be straight reprints.
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Dec 27, 2017 12:14
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Yeah, the big deal is mainly just SJ getting the rights, but that probably just means a reprint at some point. It's mainly of interest to RPG historians and OSR folks, and I wouldn't expect too much out of it.
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Dec 27, 2017 12:33
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Star Man posted:My FLGS owner might be the dumbest mother fucker on the planet. I have no idea how this mother fucker's been in business still after four years. It's likely that it's because his customers are dumber mother fuckers than him.
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Dec 27, 2017 15:13
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I just found out the dude who directed Bone Tomahawk and Brawl on Cell Block 99 is a board gamer who loves getter robo due to his amazon reviews and now I want a board game about ripping off peoples face offs in prison
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Dec 27, 2017 16:26
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Having this overpowering urge to find a game to play a really cool archer in I feel like archers get a bad wrap in tabletop games
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Dec 27, 2017 18:02
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Blockhouse posted:Having this overpowering urge to find a game to play a really cool archer in They do, but that´s mostly because trpg-nerds are bad at bows. And also because we have totally distorted images of archers. It´s not like the people being best at bowyering were lanky mofos, but the buff military people who could pull back an 80-pound-bow to survive the storm of frenchman in mail and plate running at them at 300 paces distance. And still, most rpgs connect archery to "dexterity".
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Dec 27, 2017 18:28
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Yawgmoth posted:This is the opening to a story, but it could really do with a body and conclusion. Plutonis posted:It's likely that it's because his customers are dumber mother fuckers than him. I don't even know where to begin is the problem. The most recent thing is that I ordered a couple of bottles of Vallejo model paint from him. His shipment either never got sent or went to the wrong person. If the story had ended there, I would have just presumed that it was a gently caress up from their distributor and chaos from the holiday. Oh god no, it's never just that simple. It seems that in my little town in central Wyoming had a comic shop just now opened up and the guy who runs that also runs the two movie theatres here and the one in the next town over and doesn't like my FLGS owner. Seems that the FLGS owner's stuff got sent there and the movie theatre guy who uses the same distributor said that the other store doesn't exist anymore or some loving thing. I guess they don't like each other or something and it's nothing but dumb rear end small town small business politics. My FLGS owner is some kind of magical unicorn where he has some kind of issue specific to him, knows information that I can't seem to verify by looking myself, or he misremembers things so badly that I have to spend fifteen minutes correcting him. Supposedly the real reason that Christine Sprankle got out of Magic cosplay and shut all of her Patreon and public social media accounts down was because of a dispute with Wizards no longer paying her to make appearances and not because of harassment. I asked for a source on that because I didn't hear such a thing in the first place and presumed that any money she got was either through her Patreon or tournament organizers and that Wizards doesn't provide dick all to grand prix except for prize money for the main event and some staff. I couldn't find that information myself and the store owner's source is a YouTube video, but gently caress if I'm going to go swimming in that sewer to find it and debunk it. Takes idiots like Alpha Investments way too loving seriously, won't call someone that's come out as MTF trans by their new name or gender (and she no longer comes and he and her ex girlfriend from before she came out thinks it's all just a bunch of drama), place is always this big loving mess of a store, and just...ugh. I already quit playing Standard there because I just don't like the format anymore but it's like pulling teeth to get people to play Modern just once a month. I for some reason go there bi-weekly to play Pokémon but I'm also over other patrons making cracks like "oh look, it's the tranny fish" when they see a Bruxish. I've been told to shut the gently caress up by another patron over the fact that calling someone a neonazi is just as bad as these women calling people misogynists because any name calling of any kind is bad (Geek Falacy numero uno). I really don't know why I continue to spend any money or time at this place. It's probably because there's nothing else to do in this town and all of my friends here are married and have children so it's hard enough to ever see them as it is since I had to move back home to Wyoming in February after my dad died and my cheap place to live in Denver got sold right after I finished my undergrad, so I had no money to find another place to live in town. And yet it's somehow still not one of the worst places I have played card games in.
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Dec 27, 2017 18:28
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Mr.Misfit posted:They do, but that´s mostly because trpg-nerds are bad at bows. And also because we have totally distorted images of archers. It´s not like the people being best at bowyering were lanky mofos, but the buff military people who could pull back an 80-pound-bow to survive the storm of frenchman in mail and plate running at them at 300 paces distance. It's not that complicated. Legolas is sexy and nobody cares about the Welsh.
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Dec 27, 2017 18:48
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Mr.Misfit posted:They do, but that´s mostly because trpg-nerds are bad at bows. And also because we have totally distorted images of archers. It´s not like the people being best at bowyering were lanky mofos, but the buff military people who could pull back an 80-pound-bow to survive the storm of frenchman in mail and plate running at them at 300 paces distance. Yeah I read Bernard Cornwell books too
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Dec 27, 2017 18:52
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I don't really care about the realism of archery (though it is cool) I just want to be an acrobatic flippy arrow shooty guy
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Dec 27, 2017 18:56
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Blockhouse posted:I don't really care about the realism of archery (though it is cool) I just want to be an acrobatic flippy arrow shooty guy Play FFD6 where Rangers have an ability that lets them shoot every enemy at the same time or do four attacks that deal half damage in one turn or Exalted where you can shoot an arrow on the sky and have it fall as a giant fireball of death the next turn
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Dec 27, 2017 18:57
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It should be mandatory that any designer making a game with archery rules at least watches the rediscovering lost archery video where the guy shows off a lot of rapid fire shortbow tricks.
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Dec 27, 2017 19:02
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Blockhouse posted:Having this overpowering urge to find a game to play a really cool archer in Spellbound Kingdoms has a pretty cool archery combat style, and doesn't make you pour everything into it to be good at it.
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Dec 27, 2017 19:06
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Isn't that video actually super fake?Star Man posted:Effortpost about hell. Are ther others who feel the same way? Could you build a market out of said others? I normally would pay more for a LGS, but in this case I think Amazon and a good pub or bar sounds like a good solution.
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Dec 27, 2017 19:09
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:It's not that complicated. Legolas is sexy and nobody cares about the Welsh. still a bit odd that people convinced themselves that legolas shouldn't be strong though
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Dec 27, 2017 19:13
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Moriatti posted:Are ther others who feel the same way? Could you build a market out of said others? I live in a town of ten thousand people in a state that lost one percent of its population last year because the price of coal tanked. The Magic crowd here is pretty small and most people into board games buy online or buy at the store in town and take that kind of thing home. The bar scene in town is also not young anymore. It wouldn't be so bad if I lived in a place like Casper or Cheyenne where if I don't like one store I can at least try a different one. I've flirted with the idea of seeing if I could convince a bar to have trivia or something but I have a feeling they'd tell me that's all on me and I don't have the money nor the equipment to get that started. Obviously I just need to leave, but a humanities degree is not the kind of education where you can just get a job that'll pay to move you out to wherever it is. I'm about to start a masters program to get a teaching license in February and when I am done with that, I am getting the gently caress out of town and hopefully for longer than four years this time.
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:still a bit odd that people convinced themselves that legolas shouldn't be strong though Legolas is described as lithe and able to walk on top of snowbanks, and people take not being huge to be the same as not being strong. Later in the same paragraph it's mentioned that he can draw a heavy enough bow to down Nazgul, and also that he never gets tired. Maybe people don't know how hard shooting a bow is?
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Moriatti posted:Isn't that video actually super fake? He used some practical tricks like using an arrow designed to fly slower for the hitting an arrow out of the air trick, and a lot of the stunts took dozen of attempts, but being able to shoot a small bow multiple times in quick succession is legitimate I think. Evrart Claire fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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Zerilan posted:He used some practical tricks like using an arrow designed to fly slower for the hitting an arrow out of the air trick, and a lot of the stunts took dozen of attempts, but being able to shoot a small bow multiple times in quick succession is legitimate. One of the old quotes from the contemporaries of the English longbowmen was that they were considered bad shots if they couldn't hit 12 aimed shots a minute, each one hitting the mark. (This was my dad's "REALISM!" thing in AD&D 1E and 2E, where he upped the attack rates of specialized archers; possibly one of the very few times where a shout of realism wasn't a -nerf- for martials.)
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Dec 27, 2017 19:47
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The archery is legit, but the claims about the history of archery and "lost techniques" range from "misleading" to "malicious slander" and basically nothing he does would have any value in an actual combat scenario*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teQ6UO9Go88 (Original here) *Not that that's necessarily to dismiss them as an inspiration for cool RPG archery. KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Dec 27, 2017 |
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Dec 27, 2017 19:56
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Insofar as ability scores serve any useful purpose at all, the point of tying archery to dexterity and not to strength is to manually enforce that someone who's great at long-range combat either shouldn't also be good at close range combat or should have to give up significant bonuses somewhere else in order to be good at both. There are a variety of reasons this doesn't work out (the universality of ability scores tends to mean that everyone can "give up" one or two or three of them without actually giving up much of anything) but setting that aside, the idea of exclusitivity in the name of gameplay and making players more interdependent as a team is generally a good one. Also I'm pretty sure at least one version of D&D had strength influence what kind of bows you could use and had bow damage scale with strength, whereas crossbows were purely driven by dexterity/accuracy. I think it was 2E AD&D.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:31
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Trick archery is as old as bows themselves. The dude probably got in too many internet grog arguments about archery that made him lose some perspective. Good on him for learning a neat skill and sharing videos of it though.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:35
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2e let thrown weapons benefit from strength which made darts kinda ridiculous (4/round, so at 18 str you were hitting about 20 damage when things usually had a couple of d8 for hit dice.) Pathfinder has strength rated bows which may be what you are thinking of? And yeah, weapon specialization allowing ranged characters more often was something AD&D did really well and another reason to play 2e instead of 3.x.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:37
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Moriatti posted:Pathfinder has strength rated bows which may be what you are thinking of? All of 3.x does
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Weren't there bows in 3.X that let you add your Strength mod to damage?
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Composite Bows yeah
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Even if a lot of it's tricks not suited for combat, that a firing speed like that is possible at all should be kept in mind when making fantasy poo poo that includes archery, considering D&D and related poo poo's tendency to make martial characters that are supposed to be fantasy heroes less capable than what regular people can actually do.
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Dec 27, 2017 20:44
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The real tragedy is that while there is actually a lot of systems that let you be a cool longbowman or even a crossbowman on foot there are few ones that let you be the true terror of the battlefield: The Steppe Horse Archer
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Speaking of crossbows, aren't they garbage in PF and 100% inferior to normal bows, with the devs saying that it was an intentional trap option?
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Dec 27, 2017 20:46
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WrightOfWay posted:Weren't there bows in 3.X that let you add your Strength mod to damage? Zerilan posted:Speaking of crossbows, aren't they garbage in PF and 100% inferior to normal bows, with the devs saying that it was an intentional trap option?
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Dec 27, 2017 20:55
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Moriatti posted:What's a good PVP game, either an "RPG" focused on PVP or a board game that lets you have a high degree of customization over your chracters?
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Dec 27, 2017 21:26
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Yawgmoth posted:Crossbows are indeed crap since they take like 3 rounds to reload and don't get any bonus to damage. Wouldn't surprise me if they were designed to be a trap option, those fuckers love trap options and loving over non-casters and hating anything that looks like a gun.
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Dec 27, 2017 21:28
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Plutonis posted:The real tragedy is that while there is actually a lot of systems that let you be a cool longbowman or even a crossbowman on foot there are few ones that let you be the true terror of the battlefield: The Steppe Horse Archer Of course, playing an archer on a horse means you're not playing a wizard on a horse, and being on a horse is incompatible with being in a dungeon, but if you were playing Steppes Sans Sorcerers it would be pleasantly functional!
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Splicer posted:[...]but if you were playing Steppes Sans Sorcerers it would be pleasantly functional! So...Harnmaster?
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FMguru posted:Crossbows in PF were also key to the crappiest trap feat ever printed (the infamous "Prone Shooter")
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