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Combat Pretzel posted:Hmmm, the new insider preview has the registry stuff factored out from the kernel into its own process. I wonder what's going on here longterm. They've already said that eventually that data is going to be compressed in RAM (isn't yet). I guess it's related to the ongoing kernel refactoring/modularization. Maybe this will decrease the likelihood of registry corruption given an unstable system? I too wonder where they are going with that.
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so if I have windows 10 on an HDD (that was upgraded to 10 from 7 a while ago), and I use the media creation tool to get an installer so I can install windows onto an SSD, I shouldn't have to enter any license key that I don't think I ever had (since it was an OEM install) and everything will pretty much be fine, right?
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Dec 20, 2017 21:09
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If the kernel now gets config from another process/service rather than assuming a registry exists, then you have the opportunity to change the back end storage instead of needing a literal registry hive. It could simplify sync/roaming for example. And the kernel doesn't care. Or, the kernel instance can be containerized and talk to the host service still.
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Dec 20, 2017 21:23
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Dec 20, 2017 22:18
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So what's the deal with the creator's update? Anything new I need to disable or delete?
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Dec 20, 2017 22:35
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So what's the deal with the creator's update? Anything new I need to disable or delete? Delete yourself and install Linux 
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Dec 20, 2017 22:54
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Windows is now stuck after a restart at "preparing to configure Windows". This sucks. I'm too lazy right now to make a repair disk or whatever it wants. Thanks for the zero error messages I hate you Microsoft.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:50
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This appeared in my Windows Defender settings, does anyone know exactly what it does / how it works?: Also, Microsoft's proofreading abilities give me great confidence in their antivirus.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:56
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Zero VGS posted:This appeared in my Windows Defender settings, does anyone know exactly what it does / how it works?: It adds restrictions to the specified folders, so that only the list of applications that you've whitelisted are allowed to modify files in those folders. It's basically a barrier to prevent ransomware from modifying your files without you realising it. The implementation is a bit lacking though - when a program tries to modify a file in a protected folder, Defender pops up a toast notification which invariably has the full path of the offending application truncated, making it very difficult to track down and whitelist applications easily. So you'll need to follow the instructions here to add an Event Viewer filter that shows you all the CFA activity on your machine - this logs the full path to the application that tried to modify a protected file, so you can whitelist it easily.
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Dec 21, 2017 00:42
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beuges posted:It adds restrictions to the specified folders, so that only the list of applications that you've whitelisted are allowed to modify files in those folders. It's basically a barrier to prevent ransomware from modifying your files without you realising it. Awesome, thanks for the writeup. I found it in Group Policy too: Computer Config -> Admin Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Defender Antivirus -> Windows Defender Exploit Guard -> Controlled Folder Access
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Zero VGS posted:This appeared in my Windows Defender settings, does anyone know exactly what it does / how it works?: Don't worry, MS has fired QA and has automated all testing so I'm sure A.I. will have to catch onto stuff like this some day
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Dec 21, 2017 01:01
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It unauthorized changed by unfriendly applications. Can't you read?!
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It's nice to think Windows is sitting on mountains of code of that quality.
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Dec 21, 2017 09:00
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redeyes posted:It unauthorized changed by unfriendly applications. Can't you read?! That mean old jock football manager exe that gave notepad a swirlie won't be making any more changes without getting authorization. 
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Dec 21, 2017 09:36
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Combat Pretzel posted:Hmmm, the new insider preview has the registry stuff factored out from the kernel into its own process. I wonder what's going on here longterm. They've already said that eventually that data is going to be compressed in RAM (isn't yet). I guess it's related to the ongoing kernel refactoring/modularization. I found the post that talks about this, as far as I understand it isn't that the actual registry code is running in a separate process, they've just logically jiggled the memory management so the registry data in memory appear as a separate process. So it's a lightweight process with zero execution threads and only memory pages. It would have been cooler if it had been moved to a proper service of its own.
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Dec 21, 2017 09:41
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Yeah really the goal it looks like they're shooting for is to allow the loaded registry data to be able to benefit from all the memory features they've built for user processes (including compression) that isn't available to data that's sitting in a buffer in the kernel paged pool. This apparently only recently became possible because of the new type of minimal blank-slate processes (Pico Processes) they created recently that they use in the Linux subsystem.
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I tried to connect my Dell Latitude to my parent's older Samsung TV via HDMI and it said "Mode Not Supported", no matter how I changed the resolution, projection mode, ports, or cables. Tried my parent's HP Envy and it worked right away. What the heck is the problem with the Dell?
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Dec 24, 2017 15:08
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Some pages back:Spek posted:Anyone have any idea how to fix these errors in Windows update: I was checking up on my mom's laptop today, it had similar problems with updates failing to download and install. She has Office 2007 installed, so more or less the same as those final versions of the "Viewer" versions. I'm trying the manual Fall Creators Update installer now, hopefully it will install and maybe get regular WU out of its rut.
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hooah posted:I tried to connect my Dell Latitude to my parent's older Samsung TV via HDMI and it said "Mode Not Supported", no matter how I changed the resolution, projection mode, ports, or cables. Tried my parent's HP Envy and it worked right away. What the heck is the problem with the Dell?
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What's the current best practice for splitting some of Windows' system folders across disks? I want the OS on C:\ (an SSD, of course), but user accounts on E:\ (an HDD). I'd like programs to go on either drive (stuff I use a lot on C:\ and less-used stuff on E:\), but I think that should be easy enough by just specifying the install location for each program in its wizard. After searching for docs on how to do this, I found that there are lots of good ways to gently caress up your computer if you do this wrong, hence this post. I did this like 6 years ago on my current computer, but I have no idea what it is that I actually, you know, did.
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Dec 26, 2017 23:40
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Avenging Dentist posted:What's the current best practice for splitting some of Windows' system folders across disks? I want the OS on C:\ (an SSD, of course), but user accounts on E:\ (an HDD). I'd like programs to go on either drive (stuff I use a lot on C:\ and less-used stuff on E:\), but I think that should be easy enough by just specifying the install location for each program in its wizard. After searching for docs on how to do this, I found that there are lots of good ways to gently caress up your computer if you do this wrong, hence this post. Don't do it. Get a big enough drive that you can make it work. If you really have to redirect user folders just right click them and change their location with the normal windows dialogs.
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Dec 27, 2017 01:16
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Does windows freak out if you just mount another volume on c:\users?
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Dec 27, 2017 01:45
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It's usually fine but you especially don't want it on an hdd that needs to spin up every time you wake from sleep and will be kept spinning for as long as the computer is on because at that point you may as well have your OS on that disc.
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Dec 27, 2017 01:56
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Windows 10 has built-in redirecting for the Documents, Pictures, Music, Downloads, etc in user profile to alternate folders on any drive. Most of your bulk data can easily live wherever you want it to. After that you could move the most odious wasters of space from AppData (looking at you Chrome) elsewhere via junctions if you really wanted. That way it's just some individual programs that get messed up if things break rather than the whole user profile. I did that when I was using a piddly 90gb SSD. mystes posted:Does windows freak out if you just mount another volume on c:\users? NTFS mounted volumes in folders has issues with not being able to use the recycle bin. Not great for the user profile or anything were you'd be deleting files from the desktop or user folders frequently.
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Klyith posted:Windows 10 has built-in redirecting for the Documents, Pictures, Music, Downloads, etc in user profile to alternate folders on any drive. Most of your bulk data can easily live wherever you want it to. Ok, I can probably do that (and maybe do the junctions thing for Firefox/Thunderbird and such, since I don't think those make much sense to live on an SSD). I suppose I'm probably trying to prematurely optimize, since I'm used to running on a 120 GB SSD (my new one is 500 GB) and having to be really careful with how much stays on there. (And that SSD is old enough that it has nowhere near the same max number of writes as current drives.) 
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I'm running Windows and all the apps I use, and a couple of 20GB games on a 256 nvme drive, and it has 150GB free. All my files are on an old sata ssd / THE CLOUD. I can't get out of my 2001 mindset of only installing what I actually use. But this makes me feel like I'm barely using my computer at all.
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Avenging Dentist posted:Ok, I can probably do that (and maybe do the junctions thing for Firefox/Thunderbird and such, since I don't think those make much sense to live on an SSD). quote:I suppose I'm probably trying to prematurely optimize, since I'm used to running on a 120 GB SSD (my new one is 500 GB) and having to be really careful with how much stays on there. (And that SSD is old enough that it has nowhere near the same max number of writes as current drives.)
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I'd prioritize having my user folder on an SSD over the windows folder anyway. It's the one that's being accessed all the time post-boot.
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Avenging Dentist posted:What's the current best practice for splitting some of Windows' system folders across disks? I want the OS on C:\ (an SSD, of course), but user accounts on E:\ (an HDD). I'd like programs to go on either drive (stuff I use a lot on C:\ and less-used stuff on E:\), but I think that should be easy enough by just specifying the install location for each program in its wizard. After searching for docs on how to do this, I found that there are lots of good ways to gently caress up your computer if you do this wrong, hence this post. If this is a single-user system, repoint specific folders like Downloads/Music/Videos to that other drive but don't attempt to repoint C:\Users it is a lesson in pain
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Avenging Dentist posted:Ok, I can probably do that (and maybe do the junctions thing for Firefox/Thunderbird and such, since I don't think those make much sense to live on an SSD). I suppose I'm probably trying to prematurely optimize, since I'm used to running on a 120 GB SSD (my new one is 500 GB) and having to be really careful with how much stays on there. (And that SSD is old enough that it has nowhere near the same max number of writes as current drives.) You don't need junctions for those, you can just locate the profiles where ever you want by editing the profiles.ini. But Firefox is probably one of the main things I would want on the SSD.
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 This is my start menu now. I am ok with this.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:If this is a single-user system, repoint specific folders like Downloads/Music/Videos to that other drive but don't attempt to repoint C:\Users it is a lesson in pain It's single-user (though I try to allow for multiple users), and my general rule is that things I made go in my homedir and things I didn't make (movies, TV shows, albums, etc) go on a media drive.
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Captain Foo posted:so if I have windows 10 on an HDD (that was upgraded to 10 from 7 a while ago), and I use the media creation tool to get an installer so I can install windows onto an SSD, I shouldn't have to enter any license key that I don't think I ever had (since it was an OEM install) It's tied to the motherboard, so it probably shouldn't. If you're really worried you can just clone it. ItBurns posted:
I still don't know what the gently caress they're thinking by having every fresh install have Mickey Mouse and Minecraft and Candy Crush right there on the start menu. Looks so tacky and like cheap phone bloatware. A fresh install from an MCT image should be totally clean like every version of Windows before it, and like Mac OS and Linux are.
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skooma512 posted:It's tied to the motherboard, so it probably shouldn't. I don't know WTF they're doing, by adding apps there like "mail" that can't be right click > uninstalled. It feels like using an old unrooted phone.
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Ghostlight posted:You know how a while ago all our phones became computers?
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I don't know WTF they're doing, by adding apps there like "mail" that can't be right click > uninstalled. Ooo, a malicious false dichotomy. Exciting!
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Whatever you say, boss.
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dont be mean to me posted:Ooo, a malicious false dichotomy. Exciting! I wonder why people are mean to you
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I don't know WTF they're doing, by adding apps there like "mail" that can't be right click > uninstalled. This would be relevant if the apps ever actually installed so they could be uninstalled and if it didn't revert to that state every time I reboot, chap.
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You're both talking about two distinct kinds of bloatware. Grindcore is complaining about Microsoft-bundled apps that are baked into the core Windows image and have to be removed with Powershell. You're talking about the 'smart' tiles apps which are not on the system but are a clever new thing where you can pin app hooks to the Start Menu and as a result they will add to your Store and automatically start downloading and installing themselves. These can be prevented being created by deleting c:\users\Default\appdata\local\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\DefaultLayout.xml - or, you can even add your own.
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