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Detective No. 27 posted:There's always Episode IX for Dalton. He'd kill in a Star War. Does he have a licence for that?
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How exactly do you come up with a Star Wars-sounding name? Like, I know it when I see it, but I can’t nail the pattern. I know there are usually lots of vowels, but KIT FISTO while sounding dumb as poo poo hits it while something close like SMASH BLAMMO is—I don’t know—too on the nose to work?
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Dec 29, 2017 02:11
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Gatts posted:Maybe I should say delivery I earlier described the dialogue and delivery as "unfashionable," and I still think that's the most accurate description. Anakin and Padme et all aren't just speaking in a stilted and unnaturalistic manner, but imitating a very specific style of late 30s-40s. You could easily compare Anakin's style of speaking with Scarlett O'Hara, for example. They both (over) exaggerate similarly.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:12
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Less than a month, and people in the Ep 9 thread have run out of things to say. The prequels are back, as was inevitable. Prequels for life. Prequel supremacy. Was this meant to be posted in YouTube comments or something? You are starting to post like a real Star Mars fan.
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business hammocks posted:How exactly do you come up with a Star Wars-sounding name? Like, I know it when I see it, but I can’t nail the pattern. I know there are usually lots of vowels, but KIT FISTO while sounding dumb as poo poo hits it while something close like SMASH BLAMMO is—I don’t know—too on the nose to work? I don't know but I think Rogue One nailed it with 'Cassian Andor', 'Krennic', 'Chirrut Imwe' and 'Jyn Erso' whereas the ST has gotten it wrong. For example, to me, Poe Dameron is just ill-fitting. And I think having the three characters being named Rey, Finn and Poe sounds like one of those 'all Star Wars character names are monosyllabic' Facebook meme things.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:14
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business hammocks posted:How exactly do you come up with a Star Wars-sounding name? Like, I know it when I see it, but I can’t nail the pattern. I know there are usually lots of vowels, but KIT FISTO while sounding dumb as poo poo hits it while something close like SMASH BLAMMO is—I don’t know—too on the nose to work? This Christmas...the legend continues....with a new Sith Lord to terrorize the universe. Legendary actor Timothy Dalton is...SMASH BLAMMO!
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Dec 29, 2017 02:15
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hard to argue with lol
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Dec 29, 2017 02:16
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Well, Rey means king and now she's King of the Jedi 
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Dec 29, 2017 02:16
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business hammocks posted:How exactly do you come up with a Star Wars-sounding name? Like, I know it when I see it, but I can’t nail the pattern. I know there are usually lots of vowels, but KIT FISTO while sounding dumb as poo poo hits it while something close like SMASH BLAMMO is—I don’t know—too on the nose to work? Take a pasta dish and separate it into multiple words. Carb Onara Spag Hetti Ba Kedzitti Bolog Nese Fag Ioli
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Dec 29, 2017 02:18
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hiddenriverninja posted:Well, Rey means king and now she's King of the Jedi Turns out Rey's surname is Soleil.
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business hammocks posted:How exactly do you come up with a Star Wars-sounding name? Like, I know it when I see it, but I can’t nail the pattern. I know there are usually lots of vowels, but KIT FISTO while sounding dumb as poo poo hits it while something close like SMASH BLAMMO is—I don’t know—too on the nose to work? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ViKvHkNyqE
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Dec 29, 2017 02:19
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Keeping in mind I think in the Clone Wars series we have someone named Savage Oppress. It's like Green Lantern villain names where a sentient evil virus aligned with the Sinestro Corps is called Despotellies. (who is defeated by Leezle Pon, a sentient smallpox virus Green Lantern, saving one of our heroes). http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Despotellis_(New_Earth) Gatts fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Dec 29, 2017 |
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Dec 29, 2017 02:20
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Gatts posted:Keeping in mind I think in the Clone Wars series we have someone named Savage Oppress. His brother was called Feral Oppress. (His other brother was Darth Maul.)
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Dec 29, 2017 02:22
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dont even fink about it posted:Take a pasta dish and separate it into multiple words. That last one is actually something very different according to Kurt Eichenwald’s google sleuthing, but by gum you cracked the code!
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Dec 29, 2017 02:23
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Gatts posted:Keeping in mind I think in the Clone Wars series we have someone named Savage Oppress. It's like Green Lantern villain names where a sentient evil virus aligned with the Sinestro Corps is called Despotellies. (who is defeated by Leezle Pon, a sentient smallpox virus Green Lantern, saving one of our heroes). Eyyy, that's a despotic meatball!
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Dec 29, 2017 02:23
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The best named Star Wars character was Ima-Gun Di, because he dies.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:23
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Look at this poo poo, this is how great comics can be. The virus even has a sex/gender.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:24
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Away all Goats posted:The best named Star Wars character was Ima-Gun Di, because he dies. Now there is some storytelling magic.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:26
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In the alternate universe: Star Wars fans are all incredibly into the science of film editing, and they gather on message boards to discuss montage and eyeline matches for 100 pages at a time while ceaselessly disparaging Paul Martin Smith.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:31
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The first Star Wars...good editing? FFFTT. Looks like powerpoint transitions. I can do that poo poo on my computer.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:32
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Just imagine watching A New Hope and Luke misses the shot and has to fly around again to take another shot.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:34
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Tenzarin posted:Just imagine watching A New Hope and Luke misses the shot and has to fly around again to take another shot. What you are describing is the plot.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:36
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dont even fink about it posted:
That's my name on grindr
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Dec 29, 2017 02:48
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I think it's a different guy who misses the shot first time, but same basic deal. Presumably if it were Luke his first missed shot would be with the targeting computer before trusting and using the force. As for the Rose thing everyone hated, I'm honestly not sure if Luke taking off his targeting helmet in ANH isn't theoretically just as dumb a move to pull.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:52
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:But let's face it: you are unable to give a single example of a 'trash' line from A New Hope that was saved by extreme... exertion(?) by the actors. You haven't even established what you mean by 'trash' writing. I was actually defending the PT but uh, sure. Whatever you say, SMG.
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Dec 29, 2017 02:57
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Tenzarin posted:Just imagine watching A New Hope and Luke misses the shot and has to fly around again to take another shot. Yeah, it would have been underwhelming. Except there's actually no evidence that that was a unilateral decision by Marcia rather than a call made by George. As far as I can tell, Michael Kaminski bases his assertion solely on the fact that Marcia was in charge of cutting the scene. But he strangely ignores the fact that George was intimately involved in the entire editing process. In fact George himself mentions offhand in the DVD commentary that the original cut wasn't working and that he had the idea of streamlining it, and I'm inclined to believe him, because that's a major structural change that makes all the sense in the world to have come from the guy in charge. I mean, there's no reason it couldn't have been Marcia's idea....but the problem is there's no real reason in the first place to suppose that it was. Remember that Marcia wanted to keep the scenes of Luke on Tatooine that were originally intercut with the droids' journey in the beginning, and George wanted to get rid of them to streamline the narrative. So it's not like you can just say, "Well obviously George was a complete idiot with no storytelling instincts whatsoever, and Marcia was an infallible master of pacing who never made a wrong call, therefore logically it must have been her idea."
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Dec 29, 2017 03:01
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:What you are describing is the plot. Have you seen The Last Jedi? Would love it if you do and give your thoughts.
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Dec 29, 2017 03:01
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First cuts are always messy. There's this myth that Lucas cut things all by himself at first, made something bad, then shrugged his shoulders and let everyone else recut it.
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Dec 29, 2017 03:03
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KaptainKrunk posted:First cuts are always messy. That's true. But it's also worth noting that the response to it was more mixed than it was solidly negative, and there were also some very positive reactions. This was the response of one of the Fox executives, of all people: quote:Wigan and Kanter constituted with Ladd a power triumvirate at Fox that had been shepherding their films through the studio labyrinth. After they and Fox executive Leonard Kroll, who also attended, settled into the seats of the screening room constructed behind Park Way, and as the film neared its finale, Lucas noticed that one of the execs was becoming emotional. “I was sitting right next to Gareth, and he turned to me and he had tears in his eyes,” Lucas says. “I couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t believe Gareth Wigan was crying—I thought he was crying because he was thinking, Oh my God—our whole careers are destroyed. Our lives are destroyed! But he said, ‘This is the greatest film I’ve ever seen.’ And I thought, No way! I’d never had a studio executive say that at the end of a screening. I thought, This is really weird.” Spielberg also says he loved it, but he was also George's best friend, so of course he'd say that. But the point is that even that factoid has been blown way out of proportion. And again, this was the rough cut made made after Marcia had been brought on board. The original unfinished rough cut, which reportedly was a legitimate disaster, was never screened, and it was almost entirely the work of editor John Jympson working mainly on his own while George was busy filming, and whom George fired after deciding his cut was unsalvageable. (According to The Making of Star Wars, Jympson was having trouble getting simple match cuts right.) Everyone gets everything mixed up.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:What you are describing is the plot. That's another character, originally Luke also misses a shot.
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Dec 29, 2017 03:27
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Star Wars and Return of the Jedi both originally have one CGI shot: holograms of their respective Death Stars in their pointer scenes. Does the original Empire have a CGI shot?
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Dec 29, 2017 03:37
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Tenzarin posted:That's another character, originally Luke also misses a shot. SMG is being SMG and in his roundabout way saying there's no difference. The transition from that guy using the targeting computer to Luke trusting the force would be essentially the same tension if it was Luke himself.
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AndyElusive posted:I was actually defending the PT but uh, sure. Whatever you say, SMG. No more memes. No more takes. Tenzarin posted:That's another character, originally Luke also misses a shot. I understand that. And what you are describing is the plot in an unreleased earlier version of the film. "Luke drives through the desert" or "the death star has a laser" --- these are phrases that have nothing to do with editing.
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Dec 29, 2017 03:38
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Ingmar terdman posted:Star Wars and Return of the Jedi both originally have one CGI shot: holograms of their respective Death Stars in their pointer scenes. Does the original Empire have a CGI shot? I think maybe the Emperor hologram and then the meeting of ship captain holograms where one of them dies (one of the better little visual gags in the OT imo)
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Dec 29, 2017 03:47
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Waffles Inc. posted:I think maybe the Emperor hologram and then the meeting of ship captain holograms where one of them dies (one of the better little visual gags in the OT imo) That's not CGI. I don't think Empire had any CGI until the special editions.
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Dec 29, 2017 03:48
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Bongo Bill posted:That's not CGI. I don't think Empire had any CGI until the special editions. Was it not? That’s awesome—how did they do holograms?
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Dec 29, 2017 03:59
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Waffles Inc. posted:Was it not? That’s awesome—how did they do holograms? Carefully
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Dec 29, 2017 04:00
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Waffles Inc. posted:Was it not? That’s awesome—how did they do holograms? They filmed the actor and composited it into the scene, which was an analog process because they didn't have digital compositing yet. Same with Leia's hologram in A New Hope. For that matter, the CGI in A New Hope and Return of the Jedi was added with analog compositing, not digital, as well. What I mean is, the imagery was not generated using a computer.
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The hologram stuff may even have been a little easier since they're meant to be transparent and hence don't require a matte (which was a huge part of the problem with analog compositing- how to get the exact same shape each frame.)
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