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Fezz posted:Not to mention the confrontation with Roshone. That was very satisfying. quote:Rarely had he delivered such a perfect punch. It barely even hurt his fist. Roshone dropped like a felled tree. Seriously one of my favorite quotes from the entire book. Just the mental image of this bitter, old Lighteyed keeling over is perfect. Best actual quote from a character: quote:“We could just skip the boring part.” Like that is the most offensive thing he's ever heard in his life. Sab669 fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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In retrospect Wayne must be feeling pretty smug for getting grief about MeLaan once the dust had settled and it turned out Wax had been sleeping with a Kandra for years.Sab669 posted:Seriously one of my favorite quotes from the entire book. Just the mental image of this bitter, old Lighteyed keeling over is perfect. My thoughts too.
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Contrary to popular opinion I actually liked Shallan in the first two books but wasn't big on her sections in this book. She spends most of her chapters either being a completely different character or having a not-particularly-convincing identity crisis.
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Honestly I solidly enjoyed pretty much all the characters in books 1 and 2. I had a tough time getting into Kaladin's arc in the first book and a half, but he won me over and I really enjoyed his chapters by Oathbringer. I dug Shallan's whole mysterious backstory thing in the first books and I found myself looking forward to her chapters (probably just looking for Jasnah to come into play more). But drat I just hated her chapters in Oathbringer. Don't let me warm up to a character only to throw new characters at me who happen to be worse versions of the same character who are also now I guess the same character only I hate this I hate this. Oathbringer is not Sanderson's best book by any stretch of the imagination but it had a pile to keep me reading beyond those miserable chapters. Dalinar is such a mary-sue treat of a character and damned if I don't like Adolin/Jasnah/Kaladin at this point but I really hope he figures out where to go with Shallan's character because I do not want to just keep hating her chapters. Also if anyone was wondering about further nerd bullshit, at the signing I went to, I tried to steal out some book info by appealing to Brandon's love of Magic the Gathering. I learned Dalinar started as a Mono-red aggro deck and is turning into a mono-white control deck. Jasnah is straight U/B with hints of odyssey era Tog decks. He's not sure if Shallan is mono-blue, he hasn't thought about her in a deck archetype sense much but suggested she might be blue/white down the road. Kaladin is rocking white weenie and Lift is G/W leaning way heavier towards green, more a splash of white at most. The guy loves his MTG and was wearing a Dimir shirt at the signing so regardless of book quality I'll keep supporting him because he is wonderfully nice man and a charming conversationalist.
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Cicero posted:Sanderson has trouble with humor because he's too drat nice. Did you not find the arrival of Wax et al at the hotel in New Serans hilarious?  I had to put the Kindle down a few times because I was laughing so much.
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is there a list of the Unmade? im having trouble remembering them all from the inital read. there are 8? or 9 right?
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CoolHandMat posted:is there a list of the Unmade? im having trouble remembering them all from the inital read. there are 8? or 9 right? WOB confirms there are 9 with a huge astrix on why there's not ten and what that means
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My theory is still that the night-watcher was/would have been the 10th, and either the unmade are 9 of cultivation's 10 that odium corrupted, or the night-watcher is the 10th that cultivation corrupted away from odium.
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My guess at some point was that they're somehow pieces of the Heralds and the reason there's 9 is because Taln didn't betray the Oathpact.
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Nah. There's some sort of cosmeric numerology going on. Preservation was big into 16. Honor, 10. Odium likes his 9s. Various Words of Brandon have hinted that there's something to that; may just be the number the shards were taken up in? Who knows.
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New series announcement: https://www.facebook.com/notes/brandon-sanderson/officially-announcing-skyward/10155214221647219/
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OAquinas posted:Nah. There's some sort of cosmeric numerology going on. Preservation was big into 16. Honor, 10. Odium likes his 9s. 16 is a Cosmere-wide thing because Adonalsium was shattered in to 16 shards originally, iirc.
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rafikki posted:New series announcement: https://www.facebook.com/notes/brandon-sanderson/officially-announcing-skyward/10155214221647219/ Huh, Firstborn continuity maybe?
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Such a disapointment each time he announces something new and it turns out to be another ya/non-cosmere thing. At least it doesn’t seem to slow down his writing pace too much though.
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Avalerion posted:Such a disapointment each time he announces something new and it turns out to be another ya/non-cosmere thing. At least it doesn’t seem to slow down his writing pace too much though. This is more of a lateral swap. The other YA title he was planning just wasn't gelling.
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"State of the Sanderson" was posted. Basically, Skyward will be a trilogy and is going to be his Wild Cards that he'll be doing to the exclusion of everything else for the next year or so. Outline for Eshonai's book by 2019, late 2020 release, maybe. Final Wax/Wayne book maybe 2019.
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when adolin and shallan are doin it he’ll be like “are you close?” and she’ll say “well, i’m certainly not far away from you!!”
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Law Cheetah posted:when adolin and shallan are doin it he’ll be like “are you close?” and she’ll say “well, i’m certainly not far away from you!!” Pattern hummed. "A good lie."
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TheMadMilkman posted:Pattern hummed. "A good lie." NO MATING.
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She then cuts off her left arm and uses the safe hand as a riding crop. Surgebinders are OP.
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I reread The Way of Kings and Words of Radiance and then powered through Edgedancer and Oathbringer in five days. Wow. Edgedancer, went down like a fine appetizer. Lots of cool lore and some interesting plot development. Oathbringer though, that's the real deal. Every bit as good as Words of Radiance if not more. So much awesome stuff going down in this book, the culmination of Dalinar's arc was superb.
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Anyways, for more interesting Adolin stuff. It's clear that he's going to ressurect his sword Maya and become an Edgedancer right? The sword told him his name and he was able to summon it in seven heartbeats instead of ten. That's a clear indication that she's starting to heal. He remembers those left behind from that little boy in the battle with the Thunderclast, to the prostitute he defends in Sadeas camp in The Way of Kings.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Anyways, for more interesting Adolin stuff. I don't know about the Edgedancer bit, but it does seem like he's going to resurrect the sword. It's obvious Maya is not completely dead, as it can walk around in Shadesmar and it attacked something that was attacking him. Bringing one of the "dead" spren back to life would be a good way to show the Stormfather that not all humans will betray them, and even if they did it is possible to bring the spren back.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Anyways, for more interesting Adolin stuff. The biggest twist I can imagine is that Maya does her own thing when revived, but he attracts the notice/bonds some other spren in the process of doing such a good deed. You're totally right that he's almost conspicuously doing Edgedancer things, since if his brother hadn't shown up he'dve definitely died saving that kid.
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seaborgium posted:I don't know about the Edgedancer bit, but it does seem like he's going to resurrect the sword. It's obvious Maya is not completely dead, as it can walk around in Shadesmar and it attacked something that was attacking him. Bringing one of the "dead" spren back to life would be a good way to show the Stormfather that not all humans will betray them, and even if they did it is possible to bring the spren back. All the shardblades have "deadeye" bodies in Shadesmar--the captain of the ship keeps his deadeye father locked up so he can keep track of him. Otherwise they'll migrate to the location of their physical realm self/person bonded to the blade. Doesn't matter if he went overboard--spren don't need to breathe so the sea of beads is more an obstacle than a mortal threat...the captain just wanted to keep his father safe and accounted for. That she actually defended Adolin was the first sign that she's healing. The Stormfather is resigned to seeing things through at this point. His big fear was what humans would do when they learned the truth...last time it utterly broke the Radiants. This time they go in eyes open...so things should turn out different.
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By the way, this really peaked my interest in the State of the Sanderson updatequote:Dark One
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seaborgium posted:I don't know about the Edgedancer bit, but it does seem like he's going to resurrect the sword. It's obvious Maya is not completely dead, as it can walk around in Shadesmar and it attacked something that was attacking him. Bringing one of the "dead" spren back to life would be a good way to show the Stormfather that not all humans will betray them, and even if they did it is possible to bring the spren back. I've been saying since before this book that Adolin's going to revive his sword. The previous books showed that unlike most shardbearers, Adolin had an almost religious reverence for his sword. After learning about the true nature of the shards left behind by the Radiants he got even more appreciative towards it and gears are beginning to turn. Wonder if he'll ever think to ask Dalinar (and the Stormfather) about it and if they can do anything to help Maya out. His actions to defend the prostitute in the earlier book, and the child in Oathbringer, was clearly him acting in accordance with the Second Ideal of the Windrunners to protect those who cannot protect themselves.  ...but it'll be a cold day in hell before Adolin becomes a squire to Kaladin. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:I've been saying since before this book that Adolin's going to revive his sword. The previous books showed that unlike most shardbearers, Adolin had an almost religious reverence for his sword. After learning about the true nature of the shards left behind by the Radiants he got even more appreciative towards it and gears are beginning to turn. Wonder if he'll ever think to ask Dalinar (and the Stormfather) about it and if they can do anything to help Maya out. Adolin's sword is a dead Culltivationspren, not an honorspren.
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NecroMonster posted:Adolin's sword is a dead Culltivationspren, not an honorspren. I think that will be the twist. He will definitely revive his blade, but it's not guaranteed that he will bond her. He might become a Radiant of a different order.
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Torrannor posted:I think that will be the twist. He will definitely revive his blade, but it's not guaranteed that he will bond her. He might become a Radiant of a different order. I don't think he'd be able to revive the blade if he wasn't bond compatible with it.
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I'd still put my money on him becoming the first skybreaker not in Nales cult
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Evil Fluffy posted:His actions to defend the prostitute in the earlier book, and the child in Oathbringer, was clearly him acting in accordance with the Second Ideal of the Windrunners to protect those who cannot protect themselves. Or perhaps it was remembering a forgotten class of people when no one else would...
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Evil Fluffy posted:...but it'll be a cold day in hell before Adolin becomes a squire to Kaladin. 
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M_Gargantua posted:I'd still put my money on him becoming the first skybreaker not in Nales cult That position has already been taken. Quantum Toast posted:Just take a moment to picture him as a squire to Lift. This needs to happen now.
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Quantum Toast posted:Just take a moment to picture him as a squire to Lift. Actually, given the descriptions of the orders by the preface to the chapters and Nale himself, Adolin is far more representative of the Edgedancers of old than Lift. quote:When Simol was informed of the arrival of the Edgedancers, a concealed consternation and terror, as is common in such cases, fell upon him; although they were not the most demanding of orders, their graceful, limber movements hid a deadliness that was, by this time, quite renowned; also, they were the most articulate and refined of the Radiants.
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Based on some of Lift's behavior, especially the time in Edgedancer when she speaks to the urchin about the orphanage, I have a suspicion that the Edgedancer resonance involves a gift of tongues sort of thing. That could fit pretty well with them being "articulate and refined".
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Lift talked Nale out of his centuries/millennia long crusade against surgebinders. In her conversation with Nale/Darkness in the Everstorm, she speaks like someone twice her age.
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