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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm trying to bag on you specifically, I assume your verb is missing a "not" there. And yeah, I agree. My statement was not, in any way, meant as a defense of GR on any kind of ethical or moral ground - I've already written them off as a company. I'm just saying if they kept talking, they probably would have continued making things worse for themselves.
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What's really hosed up for me is realizing that anyone who still continues to like Blue Rose also unequivocally supports CA Suleiman and or sexual assault, forever. 
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I'm so glad I'm able to hate Beast and a harasser at the same time.
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Kurieg posted:I'm so glad I'm able to hate Beast and a harasser at the same time. I'm angry that I can't ironically defend Beast without ironically defending a child molester, but I choose to blame Matt for this and not you, as your hatred of both things is simultaneously pure and wise.
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Bedlamdan posted:What's really hosed up for me is realizing that anyone who still continues to like Blue Rose also unequivocally supports CA Suleiman and or sexual assault, forever. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Everyone's personal line is different. I think so long as you're upfront about the CA Suleiman thing without excuses and you don't defend him out of loyalty to his product, you're largely fine. Liking a product a shithead made doesn't inherently make you a shithead.
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Suleiman's not even credited in Blue Rose, it's just that people who defended him angrily because they don't want to believe he's a serial harasser are.
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I would hate for Suleiman to become primarily associated with Blue Rose when he's way more responsible for Mummy being bad.
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I know Suleiman isn't associated with Blue Rose directly, but Green Ronin is certainly tied to both and has handled things terribly on its own.
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I mean I own the Criterion of Rosemary's Baby. I am in no position to judge.
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The Woody Allen Movies Produced By Harvey Weinstein criterion collection.
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Bedlamdan posted:I'm angry that I can't ironically defend Beast without ironically defending a child molester, but I choose to blame Matt for this and not you, as your hatred of both things is simultaneously pure and wise. To be fair I was slightly conflicted during my Beast review because I know Matt's produced actual good work in the past, and obviously no one could be so willfully comically evil to produce "Abuse: the Rapening" as an RPG with open eyes. Hah.
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Plutonis posted:The Woody Allen Movies Produced By Harvey Weinstein criterion collection. Alternatively, owning The Usual Suspects.
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Bedlamdan posted:What's really hosed up for me is realizing that anyone who still continues to like Blue Rose also unequivocally supports CA Suleiman and or sexual assault, forever. If it helps, Blue Rose was never a perfect thing by any stretch. They saw no problems with the "magical gypsy race" they unironically dubbed "the roamers" and were more than happy to include them again in 2e. There's some other questionable stuff dealing with the African/Polynesian-flavored matriarchy of Lar’tya that comes up in 1e's worldbook, and is lazily copied word-for-word into the 2e core book, too. Apparently those islands were historically populated by "peaceful but primitive natives" that "lacked both cities and writing" and only discovered important things like literacy and metalworking when predominately-white refugees arrived from the mainland that would become Aldis. As the book(s) put it: "Their presence gradually transformed the islands, and Lar’tya became a civilized nation". This is maybe a bit due to romantic fantasy generally not being super great about racial diversity, traditionally, even if the subgenre is much friendlier to gender and sexual minorities. But hey, even Mercedes Lackey herself had famously bad things to say when someone asked her if she'd ever write a book with a trans main character. More modern books, especially for middle school/teen age brackets are better about this now, though. Blue Rose did make steps to try being tasteful about stuff like this, even if they weren't always executed in good taste, which was more than enough to make the regressive wing of online TG discussion furiously poo poo itself and flip out about in hilarious ways about deer fascism, and that at least to me made up for it before. But this thing with CA Suleiman has been abominable and I don't plan on supporting them in the future. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Dec 17, 2017 |
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Dec 17, 2017 04:37
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"The social-justice warriors are coming for your board games," says the National Review. Lol.
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Caedar posted:"The social-justice warriors are coming for your board games," says the National Review. Lol. Martials ruin everything.
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Caedar posted:"The social-justice warriors are coming for your board games," says the National Review. Lol. Did not find any rants about the positive aspects of "cards against humanity" 
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Wasn't the latest CAH controversy being israeli right wingers attacking their Jewish joke expac and MAGA guys accusing them of antisemitism in bad faith because of the CAH funded anti trump ads
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First they came for Puerto Rico, and I did not speak up because I did not own Puerto Rico but I quietly removed Darkies in the Melon Patch from my trade list wanted section.
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Caedar posted:"The social-justice warriors are coming for your board games," says the National Review. Lol. this is one of the worst articles i've ever read
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Because, as reactionaries have taught us for years, we all know soon as somebody poo-poos a board game on the internet, all copies of it immediately and spontaneously combust. We have to stop people from having opinio- wait, poo poo, somebody brought up colonialism in board games. Too late. Well, there goes my copy of Awful Green Things from Outer Space in a literal puff of smoke. drat you, internet!
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S.J. posted:this is one of the worst articles i've ever read You would say that, S J.
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Subjunctive posted:You would say that, S J. You don't know me!
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Dec 31, 2017 03:23
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Social Justice NPC Warriors from the DMG lack even the bonus feats of a Fighter, but the Social Justice Warrior from Unearthed Arcana is arguably even better than the PHB class because they can at least shift their one Good save to Will.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Social Justice NPC Warriors from the DMG lack even the bonus feats of a Fighter, but the Social Justice Warrior from Unearthed Arcana is arguably even better than the PHB class because they can at least shift their one Good save to Will. Plus, they can prestige into Woke Weaponmaster, which at least gives them some bonuses to attack. Seriously, what the hell is that article even trying to do? My best guess has been some red-meat riling up with 'those darn kids and their board games' 
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"I heard about a thing that people said that implies that white people are not always perfectly nice to not-white people. I need to write an article implying that it's part of a grand movement to destroy everything good in the world."
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It's the National Review, aren't they literally the midway point between Fox News and The Federalist in terms of crazy right-wing bullshit?
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It is okay to criticize the trends you dislike in boardgames, and to criticize the trends you dislike in the criticism of boardgames.
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it's not actually.
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Countblanc posted:it's not actually. It's not okay to criticize my posts D:<
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I like that for his opening premise, he hides his examples deeper in the article, and it's like one actual article by an actual media person, and then "…a forum post by BGG user Jpwoo…" and like, gently caress, man, he sure uncovered that wide-ranging SJ conspiracy. And even when he starts reaching for more general sources because his gruel is so thin, it's all pretty uniformly coulds and possiblys, and not actual frothing lesbian hucksters come to emasculate us all. I'm also all about "sure Monopoly was originally political…something about the Depression I guess? MOVING ON!" And then the whole thing was just the usual "all this SJW crap is insidiously corrupting our minds!" + "what's the big deal, it's not like all these subtle details that permeate our lives shape how we think and act!?" A+ article
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The article isn't about attacking trends in board game criticism, it's about attacking what they believe to be left wing [anything and everything], like every other article they publish
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That Old Tree posted:I'm also all about "sure Monopoly was originally political…something about the Depression I guess? MOVING ON!" The original Monopoly was an educational game designed to show that a monopoly was almost guaranteed to form in the absence of regulations, so it was much more political than most board games. The thing that stood out to me was putting quotes around "racist" and "bigot" and expecting people to know exactly what he's talking about. E: I just realised that the original form of Monopoly (The Landlord's Game) was made in 1903, so had nothing to do with the Depression at all. Barely conceivable! Zandar fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Dec 31, 2017 |
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Zandar posted:The original Monopoly was an educational game designed to show that a monopoly was almost guaranteed to form in the absence of regulations, so it was much more political than most board games. The house rules that people always put jnto Monopoly that make it drag on forever are an allegory for marginal welfare programs placating people living jn otherwise exploitative conditions to the point where the revolution is interminably put-off
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So at the end of Monopoly, placing the winning token in a miniature guillotine is intuitive enough for the dog token or boot, but I really am not sure how to position the iron or battleship
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canyoneer posted:So at the end of Monopoly, placing the winning token in a miniature guillotine is intuitive enough for the dog token or boot, but I really am not sure how to position the iron or battleship Handlewise and directly down the middle, respectively. The middle of which axis is up to you.
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Caedar posted:"The social-justice warriors are coming for your board games," says the National Review. Lol. This is the first time I had the thought, "I hope that was written for exposure."
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Draxion posted:Handlewise and directly down the middle, respectively. The middle of which axis is up to you. The thimble, being a symbol of manual labor, is freed with a stern warning.
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gradenko_2000 posted:The house rules that people always put jnto Monopoly that make it drag on forever are an allegory for marginal welfare programs placating people living jn otherwise exploitative conditions to the point where the revolution is interminably put-off I want you to know that out of all your generally good posting in tradgames, this is the best one.
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Plutonis posted:Wasn't the latest CAH controversy being israeli right wingers attacking their Jewish joke expac and MAGA guys accusing them of antisemitism in bad faith because of the CAH funded anti trump ads CAH did their black Friday thing but this year it was donating to them to save America The first thing they did was buy a chunk of land on the Mexican border and hire eminent domain lawyers so as to make building a wall more costly and time consuming Edit it looks like they did the rest of the things and they're all good if not nearly as funny as that https://www.cardsagainsthumanitysavesamerica.com/ The last one is great tho
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