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El Estrago Bonito posted:I mean I know someone who was approached in a mall when she was like 14 in the mid 80's by a dude who offered her 20 dollars to suck on a Popsicle a bunch before he ate it. Was the mall in Alabama? This may be important.
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maskenfreiheit posted:surprise surprise that cop was later arrested for molestin' It worked out ok in the end, an appeals court ruled it was a violation of the kid's rights and the cop committed suicide.
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Droogie posted:No kidding. "This guy knows about the body from last year that was all over the news! Bring him in for questioning. So that's what those sirens were. My fiance and I live on the cusp of the War Zone and were wondering if something was up. It's kinda surreal to find out what was going on from reading the forums of all things.
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M_Sinistrari posted:So that's what those sirens were. My fiance and I live on the cusp of the War Zone and were wondering if something was up. It's kinda surreal to find out what was going on from reading the forums of all things. To be fair I didn't find out what that was. I think it was Charleston and Zuni. That's matter of course. I was just there by happenstance. The last time I was within a block of there I was assisting APD and like what usually is the case, the officer said he wasn't sure if it was a crime scene or not and also "you want to see something weird?" I'm next being led into a dark apartment, flashlight sweeping the rooms because even though I was assured the apartment was cleared, I wasn't told what I was looking for. I walk into a back bedroom and my light sweeps over a man, deceased in his closet, power cord wrapped around his neck, skin pale yellow and waxy. He's sitting down and the power cord is tied to the clothes bar. The officer turns to me and says, "Weird, huh?"
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Droogie posted:To be fair I didn't find out what that was. I think it was Charleston and Zuni. That's matter of course. I was just there by happenstance. Anyway one of the ones that still sticks out to me was a guy who'd set up an autoerotic asphyxiation rig in a disused storm drain because I guess he couldn't bear anyone to know what his fetish was, except one time one of the straps that supported his body weight snapped or slipped, and he wasn't able to get out of the rig because his position was thrown off just enough that he couldn't reach his safeties. The other example I remember was a scene in a public parking garage and attached skybridge where the victim had been stabbed by someone who then drove away, but he was still alive and managed to run into about the midpoint of the skybridge before the blood loss got to be too much and he collapsed and died. A loooot of blood splatter documentation in that one, and I remember the teacher specifically pointing out that the guy's shirt had been white before he was stabbed, because so much blood had soaked in it was red. I find crime stuff interesting, of course, or I wouldn't be taking that class, but even though the teacher was professional and not sensationalizing, a lot of the real crime scene pictures made me super queasy. There's a reason I wouldn't be a CSI, even though I doubt it'd be murder murder dead body 24/7. EDIT: And before that guy comes in talking about how forensics is all bullshit, I know it's not conclusive. The problem with trace evidence is that stuff gets transferred whenever you touch or move anything, hair analysis can only really be used as class evidence because you can look at a hair and go 'this looks like a human hair' or 'no this is some sort of canine' but not pinpoint the exact individual it's from. Same with a lot of other types of analysis, it's class evidence, not individual evidence. Fingerprints are quite fallible because while as far as it's been studied people have unique fingerprints, every fingerprint made is going to be different. Different pressures, different surfaces, and most fingerprints get smeared or distorted somehow. That plus the fact that humans are fallible and prone to pressure means sometimes people classify a bad match as 'good enough'. Even DNA evidence is imperfect and fallible, although it's the most precise stuff we've got. Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it's bad. It just means its flaws have to be discussed and understood. The expectation that any one piece of evidence can make a case a 'sure thing' is extremely damaging, but the fact of the matter is that even eyewitness testimony has a lot of problems and at some point you've got to decide what's convincing enough, otherwise it's drat near impossible to prove anything. PetraCore has a new favorite as of 04:41 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Mary Jo Buttaofuoco got to keep the jacket she was shot in and pretty much the whole thing is red. The crime scene photos are intense, she bled out a ton even though she lived (and was like 100lbs at the time).
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PetraCore posted:BTW, Pick, do you have any good forensic files recs off the top of your head? IDK if there's a more appropriate thread to ask this in. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3812306
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Pick posted:Mary Jo Buttaofuoco got to keep the jacket she was shot in and pretty much the whole thing is red. The crime scene photos are intense, she bled out a ton even though she lived (and was like 100lbs at the time). Don't make up fake mean names Pick
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AlbieQuirky posted:Oh, the whole thing is a hideous shitshow. I was just mocking the clickbait headline. The Cato Institute deserves all the derision in the world regardless of the headline
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Milo and POTUS posted:The Cato Institute deserves all the derision in the world regardless of the headline I think you mean the Charles Koch Foundation 
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:Don't make up fake mean names Pick Yeah, Pick, everyone knows it's spelled Buttafuoco. "Buttaofuoco" just sounds stupid.
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Droogie posted:("Close to home, far from ordinary!" - advertising slogan for Sandia Casino) Jesus H  I live at Central and Western Skies, probably ~2 miles from where it was found, on the north side of that arroyo. I hear sirens and gunshots all the time and barely register it anymore, so I can't remember if I heard poo poo around Christmas eve. That's too creepy and too close to home for comfort. the Journal is saying that police have determined the body was that of a woman, too, so I'm probably gonna start carrying my telescoping baton with me more often at night. I love this state, I love this city, but the creepy bullshit needs to Stop.
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cat_herder posted:Jesus H That's a really rough area. Please be careful.
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maskenfreiheit posted:i wonder which of the abq goons postin about it is the serial killer Let's have a meet up! I'm partial to Bow & Arrow brewery. Also yes, the body was confirmed female today, which doesn't fit with any prior similar killings, so I'll be staying up to date with how that pans out.
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Droogie posted:Let's have a meet up! I'm partial to Bow & Arrow brewery. I'm not the murderer
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:I'm not the murderer Not it!
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:I'm not the murderer This is exactly what a murderer would say.
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RCarr posted:This is exactly what a murderer would say. Nah. It’s me. It’s a hell of a trip down there though, so I’m not racking up the count.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Nah. It’s me. It’s a hell of a trip down there though, so I’m not racking up the count. The true aficionado knows it's the quality of the kill, not the quantity. Any fool can shoot up a Post Office. I mean... that's what I've heard.
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Droogie posted:Let's have a meet up! I'm partial to Bow & Arrow brewery. I'll be as careful as I can. I've lived in the Warzone before, and Westgate as a child, so I have experience with rough parts of town. We're super poor so it's hard to find a decent place that we can afford. On that note, we're down for a meetup after the 3rd  .
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Also you heard it here first. Creepy and unnerving Albuquerque goon meet on 1/3/17. Bring your weirdest theories and don't murder anyone.
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Droogie posted:don't murder anyone. dealbreaker
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maskenfreiheit posted:looking forward to the reply all about the goon serial killer meetup THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
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maskenfreiheit posted:looking forward to the reply all about the goon serial killer meetup Look, just say it's a cereal convention (thanks to Sandman for that joke)
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Droogie posted:Let's have a meet up! I'm partial to Bow & Arrow brewery.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Some serious mood whiplash between the line break here. Lmao
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Here's one I've always found very interesting. Lauren Gidding was a law student who was abducted and murdered. They interview her fellow student and neighbor, Stephen Mcdaniel live on the news. He has an interesting reaction around 1:10 in the interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIroLgiCyP8 Here is an article with the full explanation and police interview with the alleged murderer, but see if you can figure out who it before you read the article! http://www.macon.com/news/special-reports/lauren-giddings-murder/article30131793.html
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Here's one I've always found very interesting. A family appears on a family court mediation type talkshow to discuss the parents' disapproval of the daughter eloping with her much older boyfriend. Suddenly the girl exclaims that she eloped because she wanted to escape her home because she was terrified of her father who had murdered 3 people. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/On-TV-talk-show-teen-nails-her-father-in-triple-murder/articleshow/13860243.cms And the classic Yelp murder unraveling. https://www.yelp.com/topic/diamond-bar-my-friend-maribel-ramos-is-missing
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So, I knew this kid vaguely in the 90s. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dr-pamela-buchbinder-jacob-nolan-did-psychiatrist-brainwash-cousin-to-kill-ex-lover/ The url sums it up pretty well, but there has been some updates in the last few months. From what I recall, he was a kid who fit the description in the article, all around sad story for all involved.
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maskenfreiheit posted:i wonder which of the abq goons postin about it is the serial killer Which one of them has a "wacky hobby" building rockets/submarines or whatever?
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Here's one I've always found very interesting. Goddamn, the spy cam footage in the article is disturbing.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Some serious mood whiplash between the line break here. Medication should help level that out. But this whole thing is all over the place itself. Albuquerque’s a poor city in a poor state. As such, as of September of this year and based on prior year’s data, New Mexico has the highest property crime rate in the United States per capita, and was rising quickly in violent crime, becoming the second in the nation. This year alone, Albuquerque, or as a lot of locals like to describe it, the “biggest little city” (a nickname earned from the small town feel of having exceptionally minimal degrees of separation from person to person), we are quickly at the end of the year and are at 74 or 75 homicides this year alone, depending on who’s counting. The police department in Albuquerque has been portrayed as many things, bumbling, overly-aggressive, overworked and severely understaffed. I’m not going to say any of those are untrue. Having to work closely with the department occasionally and knowing several in my personal life, there are many police on the force here that I would be positively relieved to have respond to a call should I have to make one. Praise is due to a lot of officers here, but the characterization of the Albuquerque Police seemingly giving up or overlooking things that has been portrayed and inferred in this thread is not necessarily unwarranted. Prime example: Just yesterday police added a decomposed body found earlier this year to the list of potential homicides, but the police spokesperson did not know the identity or the gender of this body, nor did he know the cause of death, the location the body was found, or when the body was found. Thanks, APD. Albuquerque doesn’t want to admit it, and the police don’t want to say it, but Albuquerque has a serial killer problem. Whether it’s the unsolved West Mesa murders of which I’ve previously written (they’re turning the mass grave site into a park), or whether it’s the inferred and difficult to dismiss similarities between Clifford Miller of last year and the headless victim of just a few days ago, there’s an epidemic in this city that only gets spoken of in hushed tones unless a crime so severe forces acknowledgment by the media or the police. There is a serial killer targeting the homeless population in this city. That’s not to say that it’s not already immensely dangerous to be homeless, let alone in this city. Of note, in 2014 three teenagers beat two homeless Navajo men to death on the streets of Albuquerque for no reason other than it was what their idea of fun was. In 2016, Clifford Miller’s mutilated and headless body counted as one of 11 homeless people murdered in this city. In 2017 to date, 15 homicides in the city have been homeless, all of them unsolved, and APD is not counting the mutilated corpse in Four Hills, because they have yet to determine if she is homeless or not. They have not released the identity, but they have said they have yet to locate the victim’s family. Albuquerque Police believe that three of the homeless murdered this year are connected definitively. In approximately a 4 month span, three homeless men were were found stabbed to death and presumably dumped or placed at their discovery locations, the only other alarming detail released being that they all appeared “posed.” The city and the local newspaper have labelled the person or people responsible for the similar deaths with similar MOs; homeless victims stabbed to death, all male, caucasian or biracial, victims posed, as a “serial offender.” The police have at least admitted that there were alarming similarities between these three victims and Clifford Miller. There were no details about the murders of the other 12 victims that were readily available. Details are starting to emerge piecemeal about the victim found on the 23rd. APD has confirmed that the victim is female, which is the largest disparity between victims, followed by a small detail mentioned in passing by one of the news stations- This latest victim’s head was found nearby. Clifford Miller’s head was never found as far as I am aware. So for every coincidence so far- stabbed, mutilated, decapitated, christmas, appear to be just that, a coincidence, at least for now. This is, however, still breaking news and is unfolding in real time.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Here's one I've always found very interesting. Oh poo poo, this all happened like 5 seconds down the street from me. Fun times
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Indian trafficking ring uses fake rugby tours to lure boys to France Stuff.co.nz posted:Indian police have broken up an alleged human trafficking ring which sent young boys to France on the pretext of putting them on rugby tours.
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