The Puppy Bowl posted:Okay. At least he has some, typical college, off field event for people to point at. With the on-field character complaints alone it sounded like old men furious at the fact that some football player in his 20s isn't a robot. I don't know. Except for the putrid class of 2013 the last drafts all had at least 2 franchise QBs 2014: Jimmy G, Dereck Carr 2015: Mariota, Winston 2016: Goff, Wentz, Prescott 2017: too early to call but Watson looked good, Mahomes and Trubisky have potential There is also the nature vs. nurture question. A rookie on the Browns will have a very different career from a rookie on the Patriots.
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GaussianCopula posted:I don't know. i think we are slightly too early in crowning Jimmy G as a franchise QB. give him more than 5 games
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At this point I'm more comfortable calling Jimmy GQ a franchise quarterback than I am Mariota or Winston.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:At this point I'm more comfortable calling Jimmy GQ a franchise quarterback than I am Mariota or Winston. The guy who got to learn behind Tom Brady for three years is doing better than the guys thrown out to the wolves to try and save their poo poo teams from poo poo coaching, you don't say.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Browns picking #1 and #4 officially. Smart choice would be Rosen (providing he doesn't pull an Eli) and...? Minkah Fitzpatrick. We need dbs.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:At this point I'm more comfortable calling Jimmy GQ a franchise quarterback than I am Mariota or Winston. Mariota needs a new coach Winston needs a new brain
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The Puppy Bowl posted:At this point I'm more comfortable calling Jimmy GQ a franchise quarterback than I am Mariota or Winston. Jameis has been really good this year in the healthy games he's played. Still turns it over a bit much but most 23 year old QBs do.
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wandler20 posted:Jameis has been really good this year in the healthy games he's played. Still turns it over a bit much but most 23 year old QBs do. Yeah, Jameis is younger than Wentz and Dak despite being in the league a year longer.
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Ragnarok the Red posted:Yeah, Jameis is younger than Wentz and Dak despite being in the league a year longer. He has an 18:8 TD:int ratio this year which is acceptable but started fumbling more. OL needs to get better but he sits in the pocket too long at times. Edit: And of course Jameis goes and throws a billion INTs today. wandler20 fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Anyone have a link to the draft order as of now? This information became pertinent a week earlier than I expected.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Anyone have a link to the draft order as of now? This information became pertinent a week earlier than I expected. https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/947636159789793280
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Metapod posted:It's weird not having a top 10 pick Picking in the 20s is when you discover whether your GM is good at the draft or not.
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Just in case there's anyone out there who hasn't read Jon Bois' draft analysis.
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Hi everyone nobody pick a tackle until we do thanks.
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And somehow the Deshaun Watson trade is still a steal. Thanks Browns!
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6 hour ESPN coinflip special.
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Coldforge posted:Picking in the 20s is when you discover whether your GM is good at the draft or not. he's good
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corn on the cop posted:barkley shouldn't get out of the top-3 or 4 I guess I could see Indy taking him? Giants have to take a QB.
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Coldforge posted:I guess I could see Indy taking him? Giants have to take a QB. I'm really talking myself into wanting the Colts to take Barkley.
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There is definitely a sizable contingent of Colts fans who want Barkley. I wouldn't mind the pick, depending how FA shakes out, but it's hard for me to rationalize taking him over a top-tier defensive prospect like Chubb.
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corn on the cop posted:there's also a sizable contingent of giants fans who want barkley. gonna depend on who's declaring. They absolutely have to take a QB. It would be madness to do otherwise with the #2 pick, and Eli being cooked.
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Well, ignoring the stats for a moment, because Barkley played behind a mostly bad offensive line for three years, he's arguably the best Penn State player of all time and probably the best RB I've seen play college during my lifetime. Maybe the best since Barry Sanders. It would be crazy to draft a DB over him. I don't think there are any Champ Bailey-caliber corners this year that would have as profound an impact over a career as Barkley.
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corn on the cop posted:there's also a sizable contingent of giants fans who want barkley. gonna depend on who's declaring. isn't their o line garbage too? Seems like RB would be the least of their priorities on that side of the ball right now.
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The Browns have never not ruined a QB in 20 years
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Blessed be the Colts who secured our #2.GobiasIndustries posted:Browns picking #1 and #4 officially. Smart choice would be Rosen (providing he doesn't pull an Eli) and...? The sound decision is definitely Rosen and then it's a hard toss up because this is a pretty top heavy draft. Hard choice between Derwin James, Bradley Chubb, Orlando Brown, or Connor Williams. I wouldn't could out Roquan Smith sneaking up there too. CB and RB are both deep enough this year that I could see guys like Barkley and Fitzpatrick dropping a bit just because there's other options later.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Wow the Browns have 2 top 5 picks to waste
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