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Browns 2018 opponents: Bengals twice, Ravens twice, Steelers twice, Chiefs, Chargers, Falcons, Panthers, Jets, Broncos, Raiders, Saints, Bucs, Texans lol they're going 0-16 again
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Chris James 2 posted:Browns 2018 opponents: Bengals twice, Ravens twice, Steelers twice, Chiefs, Chargers, Falcons, Panthers, Jets, Broncos, Raiders, Saints, Bucs, Texans jesus christ. they might actually do that. scuttle the browns and the NFL if they do
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Jan 1, 2018 17:18
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Hue wants to get paid for five years while only doing two years of coaching like every other Browns head coach but his plans keep getting foiled by the insane owner.
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Jan 1, 2018 17:30
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The Browns/Jets game could be a thriller depending on schedule.
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Here, have some poo poo. 2018 Browns NFL Draft Round 1 1. Lamar Jackson QB 2. Saquon Barkley RB Round 2 1. Orlando Brown RT 2. Darius Leonard LB 3. Joshua Jackson CB Round 3 1. Bradley Bozeman, C
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Jan 1, 2018 17:52
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Gatts posted:Here, have some poo poo. We need a free safety
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Jan 1, 2018 18:18
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Flikken posted:We need a free safety What else? QB, OT, OG, RB, CB, FS, LB...? Do I have it right?
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Jan 1, 2018 18:28
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Gatts posted:What else? QB, OT, OG, RB, CB, FS, LB...? Do I have it right? Forgot: HC, OC, DC, GM, Owner.
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Jan 1, 2018 18:30
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iospace posted:Forgot: HC, OC, DC, GM, Owner. LOL right. DeShon Elliot S, Texas in the 2nd may not be bad for Free Safety if you want that over a CB or LB, he's had a productive year and 6 interceptions.
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Jan 1, 2018 18:33
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I think it would probably be quicker to list the things the Browns don't need. I guess their offensive line seems ok?(As long as Joe Thomas is down for another year of futility). Josh Gordon/Corey Coleman seems like a viable receiving tandem. Myles Garrett is seems great. Am I missing anything? I haven't actually seen the Browns play.
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Jan 1, 2018 18:35
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Gatts posted:What else? QB, OT, OG, RB, CB, FS, LB...? Do I have it right? Honestly after QB, I would rank FS as the most glaring defensive need, followed by a linebacker that can actually cover underneath. Then maybe a Tackle to replace Thomas if he doesn't come back.
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Jan 1, 2018 18:37
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Yaws posted:gently caress Eli Manning for this poo poo btw. What a coward. Considering the modern NFL is a meat grinder of rookie QBs thrown into unwinnable situations and destroyed within two seasons by expecting to be wizards to save broken franchises... nah hold out refuse the Browns
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Jan 1, 2018 18:38
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Flikken posted:Honestly after QB, I would rank FS as the most glaring defensive need, followed by a linebacker that can actually cover underneath. Then maybe a Tackle to replace Thomas if he doesn't come back. Aight. For me, I feel going for a QB then the best supposed player in the RB is a good decision but need to then draft to support them. I hope Thomas does come back but he's got to be on the back end of a career. If he can, I'd rather he go to the Patriots or something and get a Ring.
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Jan 1, 2018 18:42
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They're not going to be competitive for a while, so it might not be totally dumb to skip a QB this year, and trade that number one for some more picks and shore up other places.
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Randaconda posted:They're not going to be competitive for a while, so it might not be totally dumb to skip a QB this year, and trade that number one for some more picks and shore up other places. If they do that they should go for Fitzpatrick S and Barkley RB imo. It'd be a good defense and offense set. But then you'd still want to better your O Line to give him lanes. I said they should gently caress a QB last year and get one this year so I'm fine with a good QB this year or one that has potential........that needs a good coaching staff. 
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Randaconda posted:They're not going to be competitive for a while, so it might not be totally dumb to skip a QB this year, and trade that number one for some more picks and shore up other places. That's what they did the last 2 years, we can't do that a 3rd year in a row.
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Randaconda posted:They're not going to be competitive for a while, so it might not be totally dumb to skip a QB this year, and trade that number one for some more picks and shore up other places. they've done this for multiple years running and just went 0-16 so I don't think that it's a viable strategy somehow
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Drafting a QB could work if they also signed a veteran to be starter If they just toss a rookie in there game 1, it will just be the same thing that has happened to them for a decade now Like, draft a good qb, bench him, build an offense around his style, and go from there
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Jan 1, 2018 18:59
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Multi-year rebuilds don't make sense when NFL careers are so short. You should be competitive within three seasons.
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Shangri-Law School posted:You should be competitive within three seasons. I keep hearing this but I cannot see how the Browns can turn themselves around in 3 seasons or less. The front office, the coaching staff, the roster, etc. all have giant problems that need to be addressed. A few good players are not going to make the Browns good
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Jan 1, 2018 19:09
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Flikken posted:That's what they did the last 2 years, we can't do that a 3rd year in a row. a patagonian cavy posted:they've done this for multiple years running and just went 0-16 so I don't think that it's a viable strategy somehow Hue will destroy any of the supposed top prospects once he gets his hands on them anyway so who cares? I can't think of a worse situation than letting Hue be the guy to "develop" the first QB taken in this potentially deep draft for them. Of course its also insane that a coach who went 1-15 with an expansion era level roster somehow regressed solidly despite another year of adding talent and refining the schemes to 0-16 and is somehow being retained. Or that despite a new GM the structure is still everyone is on a loving island and report only to Heehaw. GM, HC, DePodesta, Berry all report directly to ownership instead of the normal structure every other loving team has of a chain of command and accountability. And Hue has already started his backstabbing weasel bullshit positioning himself against Dorsey and the rest the past few weeks. And when Hue inevitably goes loving 0-16 or 1-15 next year or some horseshit, the new HC will install a new offense and if there's one thing a top QB prospect thrives best under, its constantly changing systems and schemes every year or two. Worked great for Alex Smith! But one year under Hue should sufficiently crush their confidence permanently anyway so why even worry about it I guess. I just can't see any of the top QB prospects besides maybe Mayfield being able to come into the most hosed up team top to bottom in modern pro sports and enduring the next 24 months successfully.
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evilweasel posted:what a magical way to end the year These were the exact words I said as Coleman dropped that pass. Its sad cause they were really trying. At least the lions were phoning it in pretty hard near the end.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I keep hearing this but I cannot see how the Browns can turn themselves around in 3 seasons or less. The front office, the coaching staff, the roster, etc. all have giant problems that need to be addressed. The way I see it is these comments are saying the average team should be able to go from suck to success in 3 years or less assuming not everything goes wrong As with yaws' comment, the issue is the Browns aren't the average team Everything will go wrong The most damning thing I can say about sports (that doesn't involve the toll it takes on the human body physically and mentally while nobody cares until it's too late to repair the damage) is that it attracts the worst kind of idiots: the idiots who think all that's needed to fix a hopeless situation is themselves
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:one bookmaker in the UK has started putting next season's bets up 250/1 odds on the Browns going 16-0 has to be a joke.
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I wouldn't risk drafting a QB and just sign Cousins. Give him however much money he wants to put up being in Cleveland. 35 million a year? Sure! Cousins plus four players in the top 40 from this draft, plus Gordon and Coleman and Garrett...
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I keep hearing this but I cannot see how the Browns can turn themselves around in 3 seasons or less. The front office, the coaching staff, the roster, etc. all have giant problems that need to be addressed. A good qb will absolutely instantly make any team decent The QB drought is real and the browns should absolutely use every single draft pick they have on QBs. They’ve got what, 6 picks in the first two rounds? Draft 6 QBs. If you look at the last 5 years of drafts maybe one of them will be good. If somehow two are good trade the other one to the loving Texans or one of the other 10 teams that desperately need a QB and get kings ransom in return 30 TO 50 FERAL HOG fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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And just to hammer home how insane and awful Haslam is as an owner The Browns are 19-71 since he bought the team They enter an offseason with potentially a deep as hell QB class with 4 of the top 35 picks in the draft, including #1 overall and #4. 3 second rounders in total. They hired a new GM with some pedigree to him despite it being the Browns This would be the perfect opportunity to attract a quality HC candidate because with all the draft capital and 100m in cap space, the new HC/GM can make their mark and get the QB of choice in a deep draft, that fits their system and tastes while still adding a shitload of talent including another elite prospect with that #4 pick. On top of the team having a variety of existing actual talent to build with. A slam dunk for most teams. One of the easiest decisions and best opportunities the NFL offers. Instead Haslam is doubling down on Hue after going 1-15 then 0-16, while having no less than 4 "decision makers" on the team who only report to ownership instead of something remotely resembling a successful and sane organizational structure. poo poo is hosed.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I wouldn't risk drafting a QB and just sign Cousins. Give him however much money he wants to put up being in Cleveland. 35 million a year? Sure! Fire Hue, grab an OC with talent who will adjust his scheme around the guys he has to be HC. Sign Cousins, 40 mil a year gently caress it who cares, they have 100m in cap space. Draft Barkley #1 overall and Chubb or Fitzpatrick at #4. Draft a RT and WR with 33 and 35 overall. Use the Eagles pick on whatever the gently caress. Boom fixed.
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NEED MORE MILK posted:A good qb will absolutely instantly make any team decent A poo poo team will instantly also make any great QB burn out look what the Colts did to Luck Luck was a generational talent and might not be in the league in a few years
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King Hong Kong posted:250/1 odds on the Browns going 16-0 has to be a joke. The Detroit Tigers are 150-1 to win the World Series next year, and no team is worse than 100-1, while in the NHL, the Coyotes are 500-1 to win the Stanley Cup, Buffalo are 150-1, everyone else 66-1 or shorter. Most UK bookies got burned by the stupid odds they laid on Leicester winning the Premier League, so they've pulled their prices right in so they don't let that happen
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:The Detroit Tigers are 150-1 to win the World Series next year, and no team is worse than 100-1, while in the NHL, the Coyotes are 500-1 to win the Stanley Cup, Buffalo are 150-1, everyone else 66-1 or shorter. Most UK bookies got burned by the stupid odds they laid on Leicester winning the Premier League, so they've pulled their prices right in so they don't let that happen The odds aren’t on the browns winning the super bowl. It’s on them going 16-0 which is incredibly hard for even good teams. 250 to 1 for the patriots to have a perfect season are reasonable odds. For the browns it should be 100,000 to 1
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I keep hearing this but I cannot see how the Browns can turn themselves around in 3 seasons or less. The front office, the coaching staff, the roster, etc. all have giant problems that need to be addressed. If they get a league average QB they will be fine. Lots of good offensive players that Kizer couldn’t connect with.
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Bigass Moth posted:If they get a league average QB they will be fine. Lots of good offensive players that Kizer couldn’t connect with. To be fair for a lot of the season the receivers were doing Kizer no favors. There were a ton of drops.
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Flikken posted:To be fair for a lot of the season the receivers were doing Kizer no favors. There were a ton of drops. Looked it up and the Browns only had slightly more than average drops
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Hue’s young, impressionable kids: Daddy, what happens if I fail badly at something? Hue: Nothing happens. You just go to work and keep being bad. Hue’s young, impressionable kids: So, you shouldn’t worry about being the worst ever at something? Hue: Not at all. I’ll be going 1-47 in my tenure as Cleveland’s coach and I’ll still be safe. Kids, just exist. You’ll be fine.
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NEED MORE MILK posted:The odds aren’t on the browns winning the super bowl. It’s on them going 16-0 which is incredibly hard for even good teams. 250 to 1 for the patriots to have a perfect season are reasonable odds. For the browns it should be 100,000 to 1 Seriously. 250/1 is a Haslam-esque scam.
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King Hong Kong posted:Seriously. 250/1 is a Haslam-esque scam. it's not the statistical likelihood of it happening, it's "how much are prepared to lose if the unthinkable and absurb happens". Leicester winning the Premier League lost all UK bookies £25million all in, and it was the single biggest payout on the result of any sporting event in the UK iirc. No way any bookmaker worth their salt is going to expose themselves to the risk of potentially losing £100,000 per £1 staked even for the most unlikely, nay impossible, scenario. And if they did, they would reduce the maximum stake to something ridiculous like 10p or something
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