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Losing a lead to the Patriots, now there's a super rare thing that can only mean your defensive coordinator is terrible
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Eric the Mauve posted:Losing a lead to the Patriots, now there's a super rare thing that can only mean your defensive coordinator is terrible I hate this sort of thing. "Oh, theyre a top team so we should just resign ourselves to blowing multiple-score leads to them all the time" gently caress that noise. What a lovely mentality. I bet after they lost the AFC championship to the Ravens Belichick wasnt like "hmm, but we win most of the time and theyre a good team". He committed himself to figuring the Ravens out. They blew us out the following season.
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Jan 2, 2018 03:52
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The Ravens blew a 14 point lead to the Patriots in that game. Twice.
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Jan 2, 2018 03:59
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Coldforge posted:Nah; most of the Seahawks bandwagon fans during their SB run+ were 49ers bandwagon fans in the years prior. They just got more annoying when they became 12s and started cosplaying. It's also the fair-weather fans digging out their gear now that we might be good again.
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Jan 2, 2018 04:06
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Ravens blew a 14 point lead to the Patriots in that game. Twice. You mean the divisional game in 2014. The AFC championship we took the lead in the 2nd half and didnt look back. They only had 13 points. I think Pollard killed Gronkowski in 1st quarter.
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Jan 2, 2018 04:06
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Ravens blew a 14 point lead to the Patriots in that game. Twice. oh come the gently caress on. That first lead was 14-0 at like 10 minutes in. Do you really think it's normal to expect a team to hold a 14-point lead for three quarters against Tom Brady (or hell, any team)? "Welp, the offense scored 14 points. Now let's just sit back and put this one on the defense for the next 50 minutes" Kawalimus posted:I hate this sort of thing. I agree that you shouldn't just roll over and accept it but again, you're putting a lot on Dean Pees' defense in a game where Flacco threw 2 picks, including the one that sealed the game and another earlier on that set the Patriots up in Ravens territory only to see the defense force a punt. Yeah the team shouldn't resign itself to blowing multi-score leads against Brady, but it should also plan to play aggressively on offense with the expectation that the Patriots will be able to score on you. e: Talking about the 2014 game here TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Jan 2, 2018 |
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Jan 2, 2018 04:08
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*sigh* We're doing this again, huh?
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Jan 2, 2018 04:10
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SJ was talking about the Divisional game. That game was so gut wrenching.
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Jan 2, 2018 04:10
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Im not really in disagreement about the offense at all. Thats why my criticism comes back to Harbaugh. We have all this good personnel that can beat up the best teams but then blow it with bad decision making and playcalling. And on defense stuff like failing to double antonio brown late to the point he tears us to shreds and and Pees is like "whoops, yeah we shoulda done that i guess"(he really said something like this!). Then when you criticize h Harbaugh people are like "well Harbaugh doesnt run the defense/offense". So just what the heck *does* the man do? Why cant he be replaced by a guy who is actually knowledgeable and can keep guys in line? And why are people like "well we cant get rid of morninwheg cause then Harbaugh has to break in two coordinators at once". But if hes not involved in running any of these units then what difference does it even make! And I doubt Kubiak and Pagano would need "breaking in" especially since theyve worked here.
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Jan 2, 2018 04:35
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You're right.
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Jan 2, 2018 04:40
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Coldforge posted:Nah; most of the Seahawks bandwagon fans during their SB run+ were 49ers bandwagon fans in the years prior. They just got more annoying when they became 12s and started cosplaying. I bleed eye searing neon green and blue and will do so until my dying breath. It's a serious medical condition send halp. 
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Jan 2, 2018 04:41
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Here's a hot take, there's nothing wrong with bandwagon fans
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Jan 2, 2018 05:13
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Benne posted:Here's a hot take, there's nothing wrong with bandwagon fans but they're not true scotsmen
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Jan 2, 2018 05:16
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Kawalimus posted:Im not really in disagreement about the offense at all. Thats why my criticism comes back to Harbaugh. We have all this good personnel that can beat up the best teams but then blow it with bad decision making and playcalling. And on defense stuff like failing to double antonio brown late to the point he tears us to shreds and and Pees is like "whoops, yeah we shoulda done that i guess"(he really said something like this!). I just wanted to say thank you for letting the Bills into the playoffs.
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Jan 2, 2018 05:43
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Kawalimus posted:Except everything in that post is in earnest. Pees was trash. He was our Dom Capers. . Sir, I have cheered for a team coached by Dom Capers. I saw former players who went on to the pro bowl after mediocrity under Dom Capers. Dom Capers was an incredibly lovely defensive coordinator. Pees is no Dom Capers.
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Jan 2, 2018 05:51
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Benne posted:Here's a hot take, there's nothing wrong with bandwagon fans Bandwagon fans are people experiencing joy through sports, nothing wrong with that. It’s the people who sit through miserable, boring, futile seasons and self-righteously laud themselves for fandom purity who are truly insufferable. Except Browns fans, they’ve earned that martyrdom.
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Jan 2, 2018 06:57
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Thaddius the Large posted:Bandwagon fans are people experiencing joy through sports, nothing wrong with that. It’s the people who sit through miserable, boring, futile seasons and self-righteously laud themselves for fandom purity who are truly insufferable. Except Browns fans, they’ve earned that martyrdom. 12s are insufferably smug though and the seahawks' continued shittiness makes them all run away and not post here any more which is a good thing.
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Jan 2, 2018 13:57
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axeil posted:12s are insufferably smug though and the seahawks' continued shittiness makes them all run away and not post here any more which is a good thing. Yeah
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Jan 2, 2018 14:12
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Ravens blew a 14 point lead to the Patriots in that game. Twice. TheChirurgeon posted:oh come the gently caress on. That first lead was 14-0 at like 10 minutes in. Do you really think it's normal to expect a team to hold a 14-point lead for three quarters against Tom Brady (or hell, any team)? "Welp, the offense scored 14 points. Now let's just sit back and put this one on the defense for the next 50 minutes" At least the Pats lost a first round pick and are forever disgraced by that game.
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Jan 2, 2018 14:59
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MrLogan posted:At least the Pats lost a first round pick and are forever disgraced by that game. Yeah it really stings at this point laffo
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Jan 2, 2018 15:12
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MrLogan posted:At least the Pats lost a first round pick and are forever disgraced by that game. Wasn't that the game in which John Harbaugh yelled at the refs because his little brain melted after the Patriots used the same trick play Alabama used against LSU, drew a penalty because of it and than got together with another AFC small brain (Ryan Grigson) to start Deflategate? Oh and later that offseason, after the Patriots won the Super Bowl the NFL changed the rules so that small brains no longer have to deal with this trick play. Another highlight of that game: Edelman to Amendola for a 51yard TD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZorFWMalTY It's one of my favorite post season games.
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Jan 2, 2018 15:41
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There's nothing wrong with bandwagon fans who just lose interest when the team isn't great. It's a small subset of bandwagon fans who carry on acting like they've been diehard loyal fans through thick and thin but if you talk to them it becomes immediately clear they can only name 4 players on the current team much less the team that sucked 5 years ago, those guys are unbelievably obnoxious
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Jan 2, 2018 15:44
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I think there is also nothing wrong with not following sports teams while they are actively trying to be not good. This isn't really a problem in the NFL, where actively tanking is pretty rare, but it's fine to ignore your favorite NBA/MLB team that is in some dreadful rebuild period.
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Jan 2, 2018 16:06
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As much as I love what the Astros did, their success these past few seasons has been the catalyst for a lot of really lovely decisions and "Trust the Process" strategies that ignore that the Astros did what they did in large part because of necessity, having an almost completely barren farm system when the team changed hands. I believe that the fetishization of draft picks in the NFL over the past few years has ironically tipped the scales back toward veterans, where the "moneyball" approach is now getting solid veterans at firesale rates from teams desperately trying to tank their way to the top of the draft order or unload even medium-size contracts off their roster. It's kind of a miracle that buffalo made the playoffs this season but almost every player they unloaded during the offseason is on a playoff team right now.
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Jan 2, 2018 16:31
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axeil posted:12s are insufferably smug though and the seahawks' continued shittiness makes them all run away and not post here any more which is a good thing. I don't post here anymore because I moved to California and all the games are God awful early and I refuse to pay for cable. So when I do watch a game it's from the bar with real people. Or i buy cheap rams tickets and go to games.
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Jan 2, 2018 16:31
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Why do people care about bandwagon fans though? Who really cares if someone jumps team and pretends to be diehard fan. That doesn't and shouldn't effect you.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:16
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GaussianCopula posted:Wasn't that the game in which John Harbaugh yelled at the refs because his little brain melted after the Patriots used the same trick play Alabama used against LSU, drew a penalty because of it and than got together with another AFC small brain (Ryan Grigson) to start Deflategate? This is another reason I hate Harbaugh. What a dimwit!! He was outcoached and couldnt handle it. Also when he ran Heap back out on the field in like 2010 and he collapsed. I wanted him fired right then and there.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:19
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Kawalimus posted:This is another reason I hate Harbaugh. What a dimwit!! He was outcoached and couldnt handle it. Also when he ran Heap back out on the field in like 2010 and he collapsed. I wanted him fired right then and there. But then he wasn't and the team won a championship
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Eric the Mauve posted:There's nothing wrong with bandwagon fans who just lose interest when the team isn't great. It's a small subset of bandwagon fans who carry on acting like they've been diehard loyal fans through thick and thin but if you talk to them it becomes immediately clear they can only name 4 players on the current team much less the team that sucked 5 years ago, those guys are unbelievably obnoxious Naming players from a bad team is a way higher standard than you’re giving it credit for. Bad teams tend to have a lot more turnover, both year-over-year as free agents don’t pan out and even game-after-game because the coaches keep trying new things. When the 49ers were great, I could rattle off almost all the starters. When they fell apart... I mean, so many of those guys were just bodies, and maybe I knew who they were then, but why would I still remember them now? It’s obsessive on the same level as knowing all your team’s 6th-round picks.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:42
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TheChirurgeon posted:But then he wasn't and the team won a championship No they didnt. They havent made the playoffs since.
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Jan 2, 2018 17:45
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Kawalimus posted:No they didnt. They havent made the playoffs since. ...since 2010?
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CyberPingu posted:Why do people care about bandwagon fans though? Who really cares if someone jumps team and pretends to be diehard fan. That doesn't and shouldn't effect you. Football is suffering and I resent those who aren't as miserable as I am
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Jan 2, 2018 17:59
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:I think there is also nothing wrong with not following sports teams while they are actively trying to be not good. This isn't really a problem in the NFL, where actively tanking is pretty rare, but it's fine to ignore your favorite NBA/MLB team that is in some dreadful rebuild period. agreed, also because when you have a season that's 82+ games in other sports, you can afford to miss more poo poo than in the NFL, where you get one game a week for 16 weeks and that's it, unless you make it to the postseason
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TheChirurgeon posted:...since 2010? Those were two different things. The Heap incident(arguably worse) was in 2010, the dimwit incident was 2014. I meant the latter. That was also around the time the Ravens offensive braintrust of Cameron and Harbaugh(in that order) decided that Todd Heap was best used as a blocker, something he had never been known for doing. No surprise that was his last year here. We were the best team in the league in 2010. I predicted 14-2 going into the season. We didnt even win the division and lost in the 2nd round, in a game where we blew a 14 pt lead, surprise surprise Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jan 2, 2018 |
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Jan 2, 2018 18:39
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rjmccall posted:Naming players from a bad team is a way higher standard than you’re giving it credit for. Bad teams tend to have a lot more turnover, both year-over-year as free agents don’t pan out and even game-after-game because the coaches keep trying new things. When the 49ers were great, I could rattle off almost all the starters. When they fell apart... I mean, so many of those guys were just bodies, and maybe I knew who they were then, but why would I still remember them now? It’s obsessive on the same level as knowing all your team’s 6th-round picks. Not to mention being able to name all the players on a team from every year for several decades is more like high functioning autism than fandom. Waaaaaait a second...
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:I think there is also nothing wrong with not following sports teams while they are actively trying to be not good. This isn't really a problem in the NFL, where actively tanking is pretty rare, but it's fine to ignore your favorite NBA/MLB team that is in some dreadful rebuild period. My following of the Phillies the past few years has been "they're bad, I do not want to watch this", maybe knowing a few players' names and cheering for Chase Utley in LA. CyberPingu posted:Why do people care about bandwagon fans though? Who really cares if someone jumps team and pretends to be diehard fan. That doesn't and shouldn't effect you. It's a number of things. A certain type of bandwagoning, where you don't care and then follow is okay. But what isn't okay is that combined with unrelenting poo poo-talking and then not sticking around to eat crow when you're back to sucking. I hate poo poo-talking in general because it's juvenile as gently caress since nothing any of us do will impact how our teams play but it's slightly more okay when you've been a fan of a team for 20 years and know their history inside and out. Alternatively, fans who constantly jump from popular team to popular team or pick teams because they're popular as an adult are also annoying because they have no loyalty. I mean if they do that and then don't claim to be long-suffering its fine, but it's always the team-jumpers who cry about how hard it's been for say the Astros when 5 years ago they were ardent Rangers fans. edit: and bandwagoning on uber-popular teams is really irritating because most hardcore fans of a sport have already gotten sick of the Yankees/Red Sox, Pats/Steelers, Warriors, etc. and would appreciate other teams getting some time in the sun. axeil fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jan 2, 2018 |
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Jan 2, 2018 19:03
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Bet y'all thought there'd be less Ravens and Seahawks chat since they didn't make the playoffs 
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^^tbf this isnt the playoff thread. I imagine this thread is usually gonna be filled with fans of teams who just missed the playoffs. Cause we blew a game to the Patriots and Steelers, both of which we had a lead in. Also we never performed to our potential. We had Boldin, Mason, Houshmandzadeh and Heap as receivers, and Rice at RB when he was still good. Our pass D was abysmal thanks to injuries(I believe) and Mattison. We should have steamrolled the league that year but we couldnt even take the division.
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rjmccall posted:I mean, so many of those guys were just bodies, and maybe I knew who they were then, but why would I still remember them now? It’s obsessive on the same level as knowing all your team’s 6th-round picks. ...are you subtweeting me?
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