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botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

yeah this is just pathetic

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KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Jones is certainly a better choice than Moore, though he is gonna be centrist af since even his dem constituents swing way more right than other dems.

Alabama is one of the rubiest red states in the union, so anyone with a [D] anywhere near their name is still an improvement. There's obviously going to be a republican in that seat in a couple of years. Here's hoping THEY will be more centrist, because from Alabama, that's hoping for alot.

e- Heh, He's still going?

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

LtStorm posted:

Zero passenger deaths on jet airliners, worldwide. It's loving great, still, but this illustrates once again how closely Trump never reads anything.

e: If you're curious about the report he's referencing.
So, did Malaysia Airlines just not operate in 2017 then?

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Pakled posted:

Yeah that was always a given. But hell, a centrist Democrat is gonna vote the way the way this thread likes 90% of the time, more on votes that actually matter, as opposed to 0% for literally any Republican who would get elected in Alabama.

yeah, I may have been unclear, my point was don't get all worked up when he inevitably goes in on some bipartisan deal about roads or some poo poo cause he is not answering a bunch of coastal democrats, he is still a huge win, as the above story shows.

TheNewt
Dec 24, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Yeah i'm sure after you posted that Chain Immigration bullshit the latinos are going to loving love you.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

I mean - if Trump came out hard for DACA it would give him a great deflection from claims of racism, and it could possibly decrease outrage and the size of the upcoming blue wave.

But he's not gonna do that so

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling

Your Boy Fancy posted:

I’m not eyerolling on this one, I’m just curious if we ever came to the consensus on what a rich American actually is

I'd say its someone who still has 75% of their after tax income after paying for housing, healthcare and food, but I just pulled that out of my rear end

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
Hispanics are going to love Republicans because Democrats didn't try hard enough to combat anti-Hispanic Republican policies? Uh... At best they are going to decide "gently caress voting, both sides are equally bad" which is good for Republicans but hardly the same as love.

LtStorm
Aug 8, 2010

You'll pay for this, Shady Shrew!



Yeah, they're definitely going to fall in love with the party that's actively against DACA. :rolleyes:

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Helith posted:

As a filthy Euro socialist I would say to pool and redistribute at the Federal level because you just know how the red states will distribute the money. Also it should be weighted to disadvantaged children, so the more in poverty children a school has, the more money they get.

You're correct that that would be ideal, but it would be even more dramatically impossible in the US; property taxes here have always been local and a primary source of state-level funding especially but not exclusively for schools. We'll have national free health care for a century before we federalize property taxes.

TheNewt posted:

AKA: Taking away the incentive for anyone to ever want to raise property taxes.

Nah, just all raises would have to happen at the state level.

There's a huge problem in southern states where rich and/or predominantly white areas have well-funded public schools but poor and/or traditionally african-american areas are desperately underfunded; see, e.g., http://www.corridorofshame.com/ .

Equitable need-based redistribution at the state level is the only remotely feasible way to solve that problem, especially since you actually have to pay higher salaries for teachers in rural areas because who wants to live in Podunk Nowhere if they're smart enough to teach?

Total Party Kill
Aug 25, 2005

I am so loving bored of Donald Trump. This has been going on since 2015. I'm over it. Can we get a new TV president now? The last season was barely believable.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

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Not "a good idea," "the work we've done," not "me",

"THEIR president."

TheNewt
Dec 24, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Nah, just all raises would have to happen at the state level.


E.G. Never.

Please. Name the last state that raised property taxes or any taxes for that matter at state level.

California's amendment completely limiting property taxes being raised has passed sooner than that.

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:

I am so loving bored of Donald Trump. This has been going on since 2015. I'm over it. Can we get a new TV president now? The last season was barely believable.

OMG Titus Andromedon.

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

VitalSigns posted:

Saying someone doesn't need a tax cut isn't treating them like an "enemy".

It is astonishing that Reaganism has been so successful at indoctrinating even the Democratic party that even paying a tax rate still lower than what they would have paid in 1980 is treated like a mortal threat by affluent HENRYs

Everyone who jumped on you over the SALT thing was concerned about taxes on the middle-class going up to subsidize the rich, regardless of how the math works out in reality. Even if it only happens to people with a household income of $200,000, it is still loving stupid in the context of the rich getting massive tax cuts.

Unoriginal Name
Aug 1, 2006

by sebmojo

BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:

I am so loving bored of Donald Trump. This has been going on since 2015. I'm over it. Can we get a new TV president now? The last season was barely believable.

It's like if everyone's insane racist grandpa who rants incoherent poo poo they heard on Fox News found Twitter

Only hes the actual President.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

TheNewt posted:

E.G. Never.

Please. Name the last state that raised property taxes or any taxes for that matter at state level.

California's amendment completely limiting property taxes being raised has passed sooner than that.

Ok you're right, there's nothing to be done so let's throw up our hands and surrender

At some point any proposal for school funding reform involves a broad based property tax increase. The only way to do that, realistically, is to get the poorer folks to vote for a tax hike on the richer folks, and that has to happen via state level reform because county level is the current broken system and a federal level property tax reform is even less feasible than a state level one.

In short you got any better ideas?

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
What twitter or podcast told everyone to say HENERY a bunch all of a sudden anyway?

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
DT insider trading the "# of trump tweets by 1/2/2018" market today.

Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 2, 2018

gaj70
Jan 26, 2013

TheNewt posted:

E.G. Never.

Please. Name the last state that raised property taxes or any taxes for that matter at state level.

California's amendment completely limiting property taxes being raised has passed sooner than that.

Competition is likely to continue driving state/local taxes down, not up. For example, even true-blue places like New York are quietly dropping their corporate income taxes.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005
Is this a record for morning tweetstorm volume?

I'm glad he's well rested and energized from his golf vacation this last week

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The only way to do that, realistically, is to get the poorer folks to vote for a tax hike on the richer folks, and that has to happen via state level reform because county level is the current broken system and a federal level property tax reform is even less feasible than a state level one.



County level would be an improvement in NY outside NYC, where property taxes are school district level --- think roughly town, but not quite.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Owlofcreamcheese posted:

What twitter or podcast told everyone to say HENERY a bunch all of a sudden anyway?

That gif has been floating around for a year at least. Don't be so dense that you think this is the first time it's been over used.

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

What twitter or podcast told everyone to say HENERY a bunch all of a sudden anyway?

Its not a new thing. Welcome to the Debate and Discussion message board, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

What twitter or podcast told everyone to say HENERY a bunch all of a sudden anyway?

it's not a new term

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Would that be before or after you sell their families to zoos for meat, you arrogant, lying orange manchild?

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Katt posted:

Wouldn't it be a hint when a guy in dark sunglasses built like an Olympic swimmer comes into the store and buys two cases of diet sodas, ketchup and a bag of off-brand hamburger patties?

They're so obvious it's painful. They took over the port of Savannah when Biden visited.

You fit in real well driving that bombcart in a Polo and sunglasses. You look like you really belong on the waterfront standing at the bottom of a gangway for hours like that.

It's as ridiculous as KATT suggests.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
I had to look it up yesterday. :shrug:

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

highme posted:

That gif has been floating around for a year at least. Don't be so dense that you think this is the first time it's been over used.

Those gifs have been around for almost a decade, during the 2008 campaign when Obama was saying the wealthy needed to pay their fair share. The article and original gifs are bitching about how Obama wants to raise taxes on these poor families struggling to get by on $300k/year.

LegendaryFrog
Oct 8, 2006

The Mastered Mind


Well Trump just managed to top himself with a new standard for "out of touch with reality" tweets.

At least it gave my DREAM activist friends a good laugh.

RBA-Wintrow
Nov 4, 2009


Clapping Larry

LtStorm posted:

We didn't fight three wars against European powers and win them all to hear your insights. :911:

I think you'll find the UK is no longer a "power" nor "European". :)

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

highme posted:

That gif has been floating around for a year at least. Don't be so dense that you think this is the first time it's been over used.

It's not the first time and it's not new, but it seems pretty obvious SOMEONE said it in the last few days and it's everyone's new catchphrase for the week. Like this is the 8th or 9th derail on who is or isn't "the rich" but this is the first one that has used the word HENERY over and over. It's super obvious some cool podcast said it then everyone is going "heh, I knew that word all along"

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

It's not the first time and it's not new, but it seems pretty obvious SOMEONE said it in the last few days and it's everyone's new catchphrase for the week. Like this is the 8th or 9th derail on who is or isn't "the rich" but this is the first one that has used the word HENERY over and over. It's super obvious some cool podcast said it then everyone is going "heh, I knew that word all along"

It's HENRY, High Earner Not Rich Yet

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
I thought HENRY was High-Expectations, Not Rich Yet.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


My favorite thing about the Secret Service is that they also investigate financial crimes and forgeries, and they wear the same uniform to do that as they do to protect the president. When I was in college, a bunch of morons thought it would be a good idea to use the (then) high end printer they'd been using to spool off fake IDs to print some $20 bills. The first we heard of it was when 5 black SUVs pulled up in front of the dorm and a bunch of MiB and WiB with earpieces ran inside and then ran out again carrying stacks of boxes and filing cabinets.

RBA-Wintrow posted:

I think you'll find the UK is no longer a "power" nor "European". :)
It's technically 5 wars, and one of those was a stalemate at best.

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

It's not the first time and it's not new, but it seems pretty obvious SOMEONE said it in the last few days and it's everyone's new catchphrase for the week. Like this is the 8th or 9th derail on who is or isn't "the rich" but this is the first one that has used the word HENERY over and over. It's super obvious some cool podcast said it then everyone is going "heh, I knew that word all along"

I honestly don't know why that has to be true. People have been posting that gif at least once a week in this thread and its predecessors. It's a popular meme here.

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


botany posted:

yeah this is just pathetic
What's really pathetic is that 30% of the population thinks it's great.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Only if said anime is either Log Horizon or Spice & Wolf.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
The guy who signed an executive order getting rid of DACA trying to frame himself as it's defender is a special kind of crazy.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Katt posted:

Wouldn't it be a hint when a guy in dark sunglasses built like an Olympic swimmer comes into the store and buys two cases of diet sodas, ketchup and a bag of off-brand hamburger patties?

Obviously the very best Secret Service guards the current President, so it's kind of funny to see the guys who protect ex-Presidents. Like one of Jimmy Carter's detail looks like the fat cop in Beverly Hills Cop. I'm sure he could still kill me seven times over, but he's not going to look good doing it.

The further out you get from the Oval Office the worst they must get. Obama still has top notch security, but Betty Ford probably had Nic Cage.

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