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Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

JosephWongKS posted:

You do need to be cool as a cucumber to be a traitor and double-agent.

:wth:

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Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Villains trying to bribe Mineta with sex would actually be interesting, because he'd either have to display a second character trait, or else he'd be executed for crimes, so, a win either way.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

The Lord of Hats posted:

Huh. This did get me thinking--have we seen a single female villain besides Toga? Like, even in passing?

Well, technically Toga can be any girl...

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
I'm just wondering when the VA is going to get some new blood outside of the gigantic destroyer dude

out of everyone left in the VA the only credible threats are Shigaraki himself and Dabi. Everyone else is basically support and Spinner reeks of being the first guy to eat some fratricide because he's clearly out of his depth and is the only remaining true Stain adherent. Toga is basically destined to have a weaksauce catfight with Uraraka and Twice seems like he'd be #2 on the fratricide list since he's just super hosed in the head and not really all that evil.

Like they got like 3 heavy hitters and two of them could get clowned by Bakugou or Todoroki.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jan 2, 2018

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe
except the va has the power of friendship and would never harm one of their own

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Blockhouse posted:

Every time Endeavor is on panel I'm terrified of some kind of bullshit Assassination Classroom-esque walkback

A page back, but this is what I'm afraid of as well. Endeavor's character works because he's a hero who's a horrible abusive shithead in his private life. He's made to be hateable. While I'm not sure if he should get a redemption, what he did should be addressed instead of swept under the rug.

I'm curious, but has there been a manga where the parent's abuse has actually been addressed and actually dealt with?

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Evangelion? Never seen it but there’s some Dad Stuff iirc

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
Ah. Yeah, there's...


...

Some dad stuff.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?

Fabricated posted:

I'm just wondering when the VA is going to get some new blood outside of the gigantic destroyer dude

out of everyone left in the VA the only credible threats are Shigaraki himself and Dabi. Everyone else is basically support and Spinner reeks of being the first guy to eat some fratricide because he's clearly out of his depth and is the only remaining true Stain adherent. Toga is basically destined to have a weaksauce catfight with Uraraka and Twice seems like he'd be #2 on the fratricide list since he's just super hosed in the head and not really all that evil.

Like they got like 3 heavy hitters and two of them could get clowned by Bakugou or Todoroki.

Compress seems pretty dangerous. He could either capture you with a touch, or take off a chunk of your body like he did to Overhaul.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Rhonne posted:

Compress seems pretty dangerous. He could either capture you with a touch, or take off a chunk of your body like he did to Overhaul.
He flat out admits that he isn't a combat specialist. He's also now down to a single hand with which to use his quirk.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

amigolupus posted:

I'm curious, but has there been a manga where the parent's abuse has actually been addressed and actually dealt with?

Not a manga, but an anime, Star Driver comes to mind. Protagonist's dad is the big bad of the series and a total rear end in a top hat. He tries getting close to the protagonist later in the series (thinking his son who never saw him wouldn't know who he is) and gets immediately punched in the face for his bullshit. Although he wasn't abusive towards his son, rather towards his wife, he was just completely neglectful towards his son...beyond the whole "kill him to advance my evil plans" thing, regardless...

Robot battles follow, because this is an anime, regardless dad is never forgiven for being a gigantic rear end in a top hat.

There's probably other, more down-to-earth examples, but I can't think of any.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?

Fabricated posted:

He flat out admits that he isn't a combat specialist. He's also now down to a single hand with which to use his quirk.

True, but he still manages to be one of the more effective members, capturing Bakugou and helping Dabi take down that sand hero.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

Blaze Dragon posted:

Not a manga, but an anime, Star Driver comes to mind. Protagonist's dad is the big bad of the series and a total rear end in a top hat. He tries getting close to the protagonist later in the series (thinking his son who never saw him wouldn't know who he is) and gets immediately punched in the face for his bullshit. Although he wasn't abusive towards his son, rather towards his wife, he was just completely neglectful towards his son...beyond the whole "kill him to advance my evil plans" thing, regardless...

Robot battles follow, because this is an anime, regardless dad is never forgiven for being a gigantic rear end in a top hat.

There's probably other, more down-to-earth examples, but I can't think of any.

That show was a bit of a mess, but it was pretty and this was one hell of a satisfying moment.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
There was some debate if he actually was protags father. Mainly cause lots of us thought he was younger then he was.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Fabricated posted:

He flat out admits that he isn't a combat specialist. He's also now down to a single hand with which to use his quirk.

And he still can easily take down or capture people as he did multiple times.

Also what did you mean with Spinner and Twice eating fratricide that does not make any sense none of them are siblings.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Mr. Fowl posted:

That show was a bit of a mess, but it was pretty and this was one hell of a satisfying moment.


Falcon... Punch!

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

MonsterEnvy posted:

There was some debate if he actually was protags father. Mainly cause lots of us thought he was younger then he was.

From what I recall, he either froze his age or made himself younger with cosmic bullshit.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Mr. Fowl posted:

From what I recall, he either froze his age or made himself younger with cosmic bullshit.

It's never outright said, but it's implied that the Mark he wanted to take from that gay guy had the ability to stop or heavily slow down aging.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Fabricated posted:

I'm just wondering when the VA is going to get some new blood outside of the gigantic destroyer dude

out of everyone left in the VA the only credible threats are Shigaraki himself and Dabi. Everyone else is basically support and Spinner reeks of being the first guy to eat some fratricide because he's clearly out of his depth and is the only remaining true Stain adherent. Toga is basically destined to have a weaksauce catfight with Uraraka and Twice seems like he'd be #2 on the fratricide list since he's just super hosed in the head and not really all that evil.

Like they got like 3 heavy hitters and two of them could get clowned by Bakugou or Todoroki.

Bakugou and Todoroki together couldn't defeat Moonfish who I doubt is the strongest of them, Bakugou got kidnapped by Compress through basically no effort, Toga has gone toe-to-toe with pros and escaped completely scott free, and Twice has one of the most absurd powers in the series. The VA are pretty tough and can totes hang with the kids.

Also they are slowly mastering evil friendship and teamwork which will surely bolster their combat capabilities.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I sincerely hope the VA never has a "welp got to kill my teammate for not being quite evil enough" moment. Spinner getting away with saving Deku because Stain liked him makes me hopeful that won't happen.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Are there any other series where the bad guys have this kind of power of friendship thing?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

PMush Perfect posted:

Are there any other series where the bad guys have this kind of power of friendship thing?

The bad guys in Black Clover get along pretty well. Same with the Phantom Troupe in Hunter x Hunter.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


the ginyu force

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.

Terper posted:

the ginyu force

Man, I wish more villains did silly poses and choreography.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

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PMush Perfect posted:

Are there any other series where the bad guys have this kind of power of friendship thing?
Season 3 of Korra had a team of state-toppling anarchists who had unconditional trust and respect for each other. They were ideologically opposed to rulers of any kind, so they were all equals who fought for the same cause.

Wahad
May 19, 2011

There is no escape.
The Red Lotus were arguably also the most interesting Korra antagonists.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Some of the enemy pirate crews in One Piece are pretty chummy.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Squidster posted:

Season 3 of Korra had a team of state-toppling anarchists who had unconditional trust and respect for each other. They were ideologically opposed to rulers of any kind, so they were all equals who fought for the same cause.


They were 100% correct too.

Korra should have died, no gods, no masters, anarchy and freedom forever.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

PMush Perfect posted:

Are there any other series where the bad guys have this kind of power of friendship thing?

Kinnikuman is extremely explicit about it, with I think Asura pointing out that said Power of Friendship (a literal thing in the series) isn't something reserved for the side of justice, as he, by that point evil, used it too. It was pretty neat.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

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Wahad posted:

The Red Lotus were arguably also the most interesting Korra antagonists.
I would argue there can be no argument. It was so refreshing to have villains who weren't monsters or hypocrites. They were a fantastic dark mirror of the original Airbender series cast. ( Also their powers were just so dang cool )

Look at these plucky tyrant busters!

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
i would agree but the very next season had Kuvira, who was a more traditional anime antagonist but also extremely way cooler

e: her boyfriend gets taken hostage and she immediately tries to murder him and his captors with a gigantic laser beam

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Venuz Patrol posted:

i would agree but the very next season had Kuvira, who was a more traditional anime antagonist but also extremely way cooler

e: her boyfriend gets taken hostage and she immediately tries to murder him and his captors with a gigantic laser beam

And somehow this dedication to the cause makes her boyfriend want to break up with her and not even hotter for her. A fool, a coward, a traitor.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

PMush Perfect posted:

Are there any other series where the bad guys have this kind of power of friendship thing?

I don't think it's super uncommon, but what I do think is more unique is that the VA (or really just Shigaraki I guess) is learning about the power of friendship rather than them starting off as buddies. And it's having a direct improvement on their villain success.

Nonexistence
Jan 6, 2014

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

And somehow this dedication to the cause makes her boyfriend want to break up with her and not even hotter for her. A fool, a coward, a traitor.

And wasn't the obligatory male love interest left hanging at the end for an unequivocal lesbian ending? The last two seasons of Korra were so cool and part of me thinks it's a shame they went out in such relative obscurity and the other part if me wonders if that obscurity enabled the creative freedom.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I rewatched not too long ago, and you can see Korra/Asami hints from pretty early on, honesty. (Also season 2 is still hot garbage and I wish I'd skipped it. I'll never get that time back.)

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

They were 100% correct too.

Korra should have died, no gods, no masters, anarchy and freedom forever.

Zaheer parachute spotted

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

PMush Perfect posted:

I rewatched not too long ago, and you can see Korra/Asami hints from pretty early on, honesty. (Also season 2 is still hot garbage and I wish I'd skipped it. I'll never get that time back.)

Season 2 was by far the weakest, but it had the Avatar origin and the introduction of Varick. Can you really say it was a complete waste of time?

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Mraagvpeine posted:

Season 2 was by far the weakest, but it had the Avatar origin and the introduction of Varick. Can you really say it was a complete waste of time?

It's a complete waste of time apart from two very good episodes you can watch without context. Wan was amazing but the rest of the Book was by far the weakest out of all the Avatar Books.

Thankfully, Book 3 was amazing to make up for it.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Mraagvpeine posted:

Season 2 was by far the weakest, but it had the Avatar origin and the introduction of Varick. Can you really say it was a complete waste of time?
Yes.

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Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

amigolupus posted:

A page back, but this is what I'm afraid of as well. Endeavor's character works because he's a hero who's a horrible abusive shithead in his private life. He's made to be hateable. While I'm not sure if he should get a redemption, what he did should be addressed instead of swept under the rug.

I'm curious, but has there been a manga where the parent's abuse has actually been addressed and actually dealt with?

Well, there's Kill la-

Oh, wait, you said manga. Hm. Hmm...

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