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Samovar posted:I can imagine a whole bunch of reasons why, but what was the purpose of it? And why France? gee, what could human traffickers want with a group of young boys. And why pick a European country with incredibly porous borders.
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Holy moly, that is terrifying! I'm so happy that these boys were saved but that is still a whole bunch of trauma and trust issues. 
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They only found three of the kids, and almost two years later? Holy poo poo! That's 22 kids that have disappeared into the ether. Their families paid a drat fortune to ship their kids to a relative paradise and they lost them without a wink. Have they been trying to find these kids, or was the "camp" a permanent thing? This story seems odd, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that children were shipped off with no one looking for them for this long.
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Samovar posted:I can imagine a whole bunch of reasons why, but what was the purpose of it? Sexual slavery most likely. Samovar posted:And why France?
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fizzymercy posted:They only found three of the kids, and almost two years later? Holy poo poo! That's 22 kids that have disappeared into the ether. Their families paid a drat fortune to ship their kids to a relative paradise and they lost them without a wink. Have they been trying to find these kids, or was the "camp" a permanent thing? This story seems odd, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me that children were shipped off with no one looking for them for this long. Maybe it's not as nefarious as we think and the kids are on a private island somewhere learning how to become the absolute best rugby team the world will ever see.
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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:gee, what could human traffickers want with a group of young boys. And why pick a European country with incredibly porous borders. Well, I'd have thought it would have been easier to get them to the U.K., if I'm being cynical.
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I don't think I've ever posted this, but I came home from work one night waaaay back in 1992 and couldn't get to my street as it was completely cordoned off. A house was still smoking from a fire, and I immediately saw it was my friend Sarah's house, who I'd known since 8th grade. We had graduated high school in '89 and slowly drifted apart, but I knew that she'd had a baby not too long and that her parents were helping her out. I got home and walked down the street to see what had happened - her car was in the driveway, but I didn't see her or her parents or brother there, and none of the other neighbors had seen them, either. After talking with the neighbors a bit I walked home and figured they'd been taken to the hospital or something. Then the news started coming in, but i'll let you guys read the rest (the articles below were written as everything was coming to a close). http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Man-who-killed-5-in-family-faces-execution-2073269.php http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/coulson783.htm Fun fact: I was in marching band and jazz ensemble with the accomplice for 2 years 
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a mysterious cloak posted:I don't think I've ever posted this, but I came home from work one night waaaay back in 1992 and couldn't get to my street as it was completely cordoned off. A house was still smoking from a fire, and I immediately saw it was my friend Sarah's house, who I'd known since 8th grade. We had graduated high school in '89 and slowly drifted apart, but I knew that she'd had a baby not too long and that her parents were helping her out. Holy poo poo, this fucker.
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a mysterious cloak posted:I don't think I've ever posted this, but... Holy gently caress. What absolute loving monsters. It's hard to come by something so cold not perpetuated by someone infamous on a broader scale.
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sometimes just reading wikipedia is creepy af quote:In the early morning hours of May 27, Dahmer returned toward his apartment to discover Sinthasomphone sitting naked on the corner of 25th and State, talking in Laotian, with three hysterical young women standing near him.[133] Dahmer approached the trio and explained to the women that Sinthasomphone (whom he referred to by an alias) was his lover, and attempted to lead him to his apartment by the arm. The three women dissuaded Dahmer, explaining they had phoned 911.[134] Upon the arrival of two officers named John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish, Dahmer's demeanor relaxed: he informed the officers that Sinthasomphone was his 19-year-old boyfriend, that he had drunk too much following a quarrel,[135] and that he frequently behaved in this manner when intoxicated. The three women were exasperated and when one of the trio attempted to indicate to one of the officers that Sinthasomphone was bleeding from his buttocks and that he had seemingly struggled against Dahmer's attempts to walk him to his apartment, the officer harshly informed her to "butt out,"[136] "shut the hell up"[137] and to not interfere, adding the incident was "domestic."[138]
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maskenfreiheit posted:sometimes just reading wikipedia is creepy af quote:Balcerzak's and Gabrish's positions and roles within the Milwaukee Police Department were terminated[2] after their actions were widely publicized, including an audiotape of the officers making homophobic statements to their dispatcher and cracking jokes about having reunited the "lovers". The officers had never checked the boy's ID or verified his identity. The officers did not check Dahmer's identification; had they done so, they would have discovered that Dahmer was a sex offender previously convicted for molesting Sinthasomphone's older brother.[3] The city of Milwaukee later paid the boy's family a sum of $850,000 to settle a lawsuit over the policemen's handling of the situation.[4]
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Solice Kirsk posted:Maybe it's not as nefarious as we think and the kids are on a private island somewhere learning how to become the absolute best rugby team the world will ever see. Hmm. I'm pretty sure actually the kids are sexual slaves getting raped for money exchanges but it's possible
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Aesop Poprock posted:Hmm. I'm pretty sure actually the kids are sexual slaves getting raped for money exchanges but it's possible Either that or their remains are buried after removal of all their donatable organs. 
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Ya'll fuckers making sugar plantation slavery sound downright pleasant.
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:Either that or their remains are buried after removal of all their donatable organs. Well at least they're donating them and not selling them.
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Apraxin posted:The chaser to this is when you find out Officer Balcerzak has his own wiki page: Some of the most unnerving poo poo to me is how America adores incompetent, rear end in a top hat cops. An officer here in Baltimore got murdered with his own gun the day before testifying against the dirty cops on his former task force while his partner was on camera hiding across the street. The FBI didn't deem it worthy of investigating because it apparently wasn't suspicious enough. Here's an article about two men who were sent to jail through the actions of said dirty cops, who recently had their convictions vacated.
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The not so much as unnerving as frustrating thing about America is, they are enamored of the status quo. They don't really want to win the "war on drugs." They really don't care all that much about police corruption. They don't really want to crush the mob. They want things to pretty much stay the same as they always were.
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MightyJoe36 posted:The not so much as unnerving as frustrating thing about America is, they are enamored of the status quo. They don't really want to win the "war on drugs." They really don't care all that much about police corruption. They don't really want to crush the mob. They want things to pretty much stay the same as they always were. It's not just that, they want to turn everything up more notches. It's the joke from Daria where Daria takes a job aptitude test and she's listed as a gravedigger, and her mom tells her she needs to show more initiative, and Daria says "So I should kill people to ramp up business" but for real
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Oooh I also went to school with a psychopathic murderer. Well... A pair of them, actually. Let me preface this by saying that I grew up in a very small town in the Carolina mountains with a population of *maybe* 5,000 people. I was in 10th grade, and the girl was a senior. I had a class with the girl, Eva. She was dating a dude I didn't know well, named Jeremy, but he was at the school ALL THE TIME. He would.come to the class we had together and they would just be off in their own world. There's a lot to tell, so I reckon maybe just giving the text of Eva's appeal from 2003 that has a summary in it will be best than me trying to recap on my own... Keep in mind here that "defendant" is Eva. http://caselaw.findlaw.com/nc-court-of-appeals/1482295.html posted:
As for who thought up the ~mastermind~ plan, I frankly believe it was Eva all the way, and that Jeremy took the fall for it. Which loving sucks, since Jeremy will die in prison, while Eva walks free in just a few days. That Damn Satyr has a new favorite as of 09:37 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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Droogie posted:Holy gently caress. What absolute loving monsters. It's hard to come by something so cold not perpetuated by someone infamous on a broader scale. Yeah, I had met the guy a few times over the years and I would never have even imagined this would happen. He just seemed like a regular guy. He had a brown Datsun 280Z that he really took good care of. His dad was very cool, he'd had polio as a kid so he had trouble walking, but he still walked their dog a few times a week and always said hi. Super nice guy. The whole thing was just crazy.
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That drat Satyr posted:Oooh I also went to school with a psychopathic murderer. Well... A pair of them, actually. Let me preface this by saying that I grew up in a very small town in the Carolina mountains with a population of *maybe* 5,000 people. If that's true, she probably can't control her urges for long. Like OJ she'll be back in the clink eventually.
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maskenfreiheit posted:If that's true, she probably can't control her urges for long. Like OJ she'll be back in the clink eventually. Eh, Anne Perry and Pauline Parker killed Pauline's mother as teens and both have led entirely respectable lives in the 59 years since their release from prison, Perry as a famous and prolific crime novelist and Parker as a charity worker.
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a mysterious cloak posted:Yeah, I had met the guy a few times over the years and I would never have even imagined this would happen. I always think this is hilarious when people say this. Like everyone thinks Bad Guys look like a man in a black trenchcoat and hat. The majority of people who commit crimes this heinous are usually pretty good at playing normal. Hell, they ARE normal. It's not the clearly weird people you should worry about, it's the folks who are so mundane they could be your neighbors or friends. Those are where you find your serial killers, your crimes of passion, your plots to gain inheritance. Happy New Year.
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I'm a fat weird nerd from a family with mental health issues (and probably high-functioning autism, although my brother's the only one diagnosed with aspergers), so I got to hear poo poo about how people think I'm some kind of serial killer or pedophile all the goddamned time, even from close friends. I don't go out in public that much anymore. guess that's my unnerving story thanks for listening and happy new year 
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I always think this is hilarious when people say this. Like everyone thinks Bad Guys look like a man in a black trenchcoat and hat. My son and I had this conversation once. He said if he was ever going to commit a burglary, he was going to dress up in the old school outfit that everybody used to draw burglars: black knit cap, black eye mask, black and white striped shirt, and carry a bag with a dollar sign painted on it. He said the best part would be people's description/composite sketch of the suspect.
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MightyJoe36 posted:My son and I had this conversation once. He said if he was ever going to commit a burglary, he was going to dress up in the old school outfit that everybody used to draw burglars: black knit cap, black eye mask, black and white striped shirt, and carry a bag with a dollar sign painted on it. This is hilarious, I love it. But yeah, a lot of people like to think they'd 'sense' it or have some sort of intuition that someone's a killer. It's a way to convince ourselves we'd never fall prey to something like that, just OTHER people. But not ME, I have carefully vetted all the people around me! It is a lie. You most likely would not know. Most people wouldn't. There's a lot you don't know about your neighbors, and a lot of assumptions made about the people we live around that are just plain dumb or wrong.
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MightyJoe36 posted:My son and I had this conversation once. He said if he was ever going to commit a burglary, he was going to dress up in the old school outfit that everybody used to draw burglars: black knit cap, black eye mask, black and white striped shirt, and carry a bag with a dollar sign painted on it. loving amazing.
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MightyJoe36 posted:My son and I had this conversation once. He said if he was ever going to commit a burglary, he was going to dress up in the old school outfit that everybody used to draw burglars: black knit cap, black eye mask, black and white striped shirt, and carry a bag with a dollar sign painted on it. You're raising a goddamn genius. Good on ya. While he's living it up in the Caymans, some poor mook in a Hamburglar costume at a McDonalds opening rots in jail for life. Somewhere between unnerving and schadenfreude: the hotel I used to work at had a dead woman turn up in one of their rooms, allegedly murdered by a homeless man. That's unnerving. The schadenfreude comes entirely from the fact that holy lol my successor there and former boss are in no way competent to handle this. Have fun being the Murder Hotel for the next few years, idiots.
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:You're raising a goddamn genius. Good on ya. While he's living it up in the Caymans, some poor mook in a Hamburglar costume at a McDonalds opening rots in jail for life.
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PetraCore posted:Yeah but in a decade they get to spin it into a ghost story. the dude who hung himself in the early 90s doesn't even have that yet
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:the dude who hung himself in the early 90s doesn't even have that yet If you're in a hotel and the closet doorknob starts rattling, you're being haunted by the ghost of David Carradine
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:If you're in a hotel and the closet doorknob starts rattling, you're being haunted by the ghost of David Carradine I hear he'll asphyxiate you in your sleep if you don't strip naked, turn out the lights and chant "breathe deep, boner ghost" into the mirror three times
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Now that the Carolinas has come up and ID just had a People Magazine special on about him, has anyone posted developments that came up in the Todd Kohlepp case past the stuff from the first few months after his arrest? Like how he was the guy that did the Superbike murders and stuff? Apparently he graduated from the same University as me, only he finished up a year before I started going there. Also, I know this is actually even worse that "a friend of a friend," but the wife of a former friend of a good friend of mine (yeah, I know) was sleeping with Kohlepp.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:This is hilarious, I love it. Hey, this thread could have its own soundtrack. Okkervil River's "Westfall," very loosely based on the Austin yogurt shop murders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq5drkKBz3k quote:Now, with all these cameras focused on my face
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Can someone here give me the lowdown on Heaven's Gate? I can't think of where else to ask, or where I could get better sources.
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Leavemywife posted:Can someone here give me the lowdown on Heaven's Gate? I can't think of where else to ask, or where I could get better sources. There's a dope podcast on this subject here. The host is a former cult member (or was born into it, and obviously not heavens gate), so that adds an interesting perspective!
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MightyJoe36 posted:My son and I had this conversation once. He said if he was ever going to commit a burglary, he was going to dress up in the old school outfit that everybody used to draw burglars: black knit cap, black eye mask, black and white striped shirt, and carry a bag with a dollar sign painted on it. Trigger Happy TV has you covered from years ago https://youtu.be/waWugm79mQo
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Nckdictator posted:https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/they-came-in-through-the-bathroom-mirror/Content?oid=871084 The towers are gone now, FWIW. I have mixed feelings.
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Nckdictator posted:https://m.chicagoreader.com/chicago/they-came-in-through-the-bathroom-mirror/Content?oid=871084 I've read that before but I don't remember, does I go into how that story inspired Candyman? In the movie they even reference Ruthie-May but change her name to Ruthie-Jean.
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