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Dusty Lens posted:They were legit selling it as a pre-order for about a year. Not a pledge, not whatever it is now, but a common parlance pre-order standalone following the Gary Oldthumb reveal. I imagine they'll try to say they were only selling the single player portion of Star Citizen, and not an isolated product. Which means that the judge would have to sift through hours of Chris's bullshit. Hell, he might order the death penalty after that.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:28 |
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MedicineHut posted:Huh? Did or did not RSI sign a GLA at all? I believe they address that but not reading it all again. From my understanding if CIG argues that RSI is not bound by the GLA then SQ42 is guilty of copyright infringement. If CIG argues that RSI is bound by the GLA then SQ42 is guilty of copyright infringement as the GLA requires SQ42 to be just a game mode and not a separate game.* *Not a lawyer and above based only on Cryek's side of the story
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:29 |
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:32 |
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:"RSI didn't sign this contract, CIG did!" lol, this is when the 14 companies idea starts to pay off!
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:33 |
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Calling it now. The CIG response will have twitter screenshots and mention 1000+ youtube videos.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:35 |
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MedicineHut posted:Huh? Did or did not RSI sign a GLA at all? They're clearly preparing for "nuh uh, CIG licensed CryEngine for Star Citizen and then RSI independently started building S42 in Lumberyard so gently caress you Crytek, RSI didn't agree poo poo we just licensed the S42 IP to them and they can do whatever they want in whatever engine they like" History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Sunswipe posted:Aw poo poo, the Doctor's turning into Jack Slate. I suppose he does already have the dog. Why dont you take up your grievances with city hall.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:50 |
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Gosts posted:Hey, I'm working on a Alakazam! *and in a puff of magic* https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tMAP0fg-AKScI3S3VjrDW3OaLO4zgBA1RSYoQOQoNSI/edit#gid=1694467207
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:51 |
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176. 13. Chris Roberts, a video game designer, and Ortwin Freyermuth, an entertainment lawyer, founded Defendants. On October 10, 2012, Defendants initiated a crowdfunding campaign to raise money for Star Citizen, a game to be developed by Defendants. 177. 14. At significant time and expense, Crytek created demonstrations and proofs-of-concept for Defendants related to Star Citizen, and Defendants used those materials as part of the crowdfunding campaign for Star Citizen. Has anyone said scampaign yet?
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:53 |
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Another interesting thing in the amended complaint was that not only did Crytek accuse CIG of a separate game but any process around building that game (including i presume demos on the interwebs) was itself a breach of copyright, so they're making sure the door is closed whatever CIG claim about the status of SQ42.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:54 |
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I am dead from laughing so hard at these sick legal owns of CIG. They are hosed.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:55 |
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I think that they are just covering their asses if CIGs line of defense is "A GLA is not a contract" or something. Whooaaa so CIG now owns Line of Defense? Derek since when did you sold you game to CIG and for how. Many jpeg ships
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 14:56 |
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MedicineHut posted:Huh? Did or did not RSI sign a GLA at all?
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:03 |
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AP posted:I assume a major part of the reason for making S42 a separate game was for tax reasons in the UK. So on the one hand CIG will have been trying to prove it was a separate game to the UK government and now need to prove it wasn't to a US court. It's more complex than that. Read my just unleashed Tweet storm https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/948544238790299648.html ----------------
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:05 |
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Crobbers will probably end up doing a lot of handwaving, while going for a variant of the Chewbacca defense.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:05 |
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Question: Is it legal to post a Pacer document that's hidden behind a paywall?
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:07 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Why dont you take up your grievances with city hall. Can't wait to see this scene play out, with CIG escaping in the plane and Derek on the motorbike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J45iyHkkbM
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:08 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I imagine they'll try to say they were only selling the single player portion of Star Citizen, and not an isolated product. Nope. It's not as hard as you think. I just addressed this very thing in my Twitter thread. They have: - sold SQ42 as a separate product - used SQ42 as collateral for a loan - used SQ42 as the reason for tax credits (which are also part of the loan) Aside from all the marketing, media, separate website etc. Like I said: dead to rights Unless Ortwin can poo poo a GLA that says they can develop more than ONE title, they're hosed. Completely. It's game over. And given the bad blood between Chris and CryTek, they're going to completely destroy him for he did to not only them, but also their company (poaching their key engineers etc). Make no mistake, this lawsuit is more personal than it is business. ----------------
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A Neurotic Corncob posted:The new year is starting off p good. fake outrage
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:15 |
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Derek is the narrator at the beginning of every episode of Dragonball where he talks about poo poo that already happened...and while that poo poo was happening, he was wondering aloud what would happen next episode if only you'd tune in to find out!
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:18 |
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Beet Wagon posted:He's from South Africa I think? IDK I don't remember most of the time I spent in TEST. was he one of the leaders of TEST during the Fountain War?
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Mr.Tophat posted:Derek is the narrator at the beginning of every episode of Dragonball where he talks about poo poo that already happened...and while that poo poo was happening, he was wondering aloud what would happen next episode if only you'd tune in to find out! drat thats one apt comparison
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:21 |
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History Comes Inside! posted:They're clearly preparing for "nuh uh, CIG licensed CryEngine for Star Citizen and then RSI independently started building S42 in Lumberyard so gently caress you Crytek, RSI didn't agree poo poo we just licensed the S42 IP to them and they can do whatever they want in whatever engine they like" https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/948560337040822273 ----------------
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:24 |
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Dusty Lens posted:Legal status: Dog making GBS threads on a thick shag carpet.
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Mr.Tophat posted:Derek is the narrator at the beginning of every episode of Dragonball where he talks about poo poo that already happened...and while that poo poo was happening, he was wondering aloud what would happen next episode if only you'd tune in to find out!
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:26 |
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Derek yelling at Chris is more like Garfield Minus Garfield.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:27 |
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Ash1138 posted:crobbers and derek spending Let. Me.... Let. ME.... LET ME loving FINISH
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:30 |
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people of earth, lend me your sources
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:31 |
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D_Smart posted:Read my just unleashed Tweet storm
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:32 |
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now that r/ds is dead I don't think anyone reads them so you shouldn't either.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:33 |
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ewe2 posted:He's the alt. It's obvious Yeah. I have two decades of technical debt, an end date and no critical path. It's so well planned that people are agreeing to stuff and just leaving. I'm in two minds whether to jump or dig into the pile of poo poo. Frank admission: I love unpicking piles of poo poo.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:34 |
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BdP_tq-hbUS/
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:34 |
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big nipples big life posted:now that r/ds is dead I don't think anyone reads them so you shouldn't either. Oh no, you can't trick me, goonie. I see you inverse troll reverse psychology coming a mile away. I'M GONNA READ THEM NOW. I'M GONNA READ THEM ALL.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:35 |
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Derek is that annoying verbal cop who declares, "Got 'em now!" whenever the dog sniffs an errant shoe in the desert. It might be your perp's shoe, but stop looking at a dog for verbal cues, and stop telling the people who handle the dog to stop talking to one another and listen to the mutt.
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:37 |
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is this anime
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bandaid.friend posted:is this anime It's trash so yes
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# ? Jan 3, 2018 15:39 |
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Everyone please stop posting that no one reads DS's tweets or he'll just bring them here. e;
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D_Smart posted:Nope. It's not as hard as you think. I just addressed this very thing in my Twitter thread. I understand your point, Oh Internet Warlord, but what I'm suggesting is that they could say that when they're selling "Squadron 42" what they're actually selling is "Star Citizen: Wing Commander Style Single Player Mode Edition". In other words they're selling a part of the game they have a license for instead of a standalone product. I genuinely have no idea whether or not that's a feasible legal argument or not (it probably isn't and I think it's firmly established that I am not a lawyer or in any way, shape, or form remotely competent when it comes to legal matters), but it would be hilarious if they tried.
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HAHAHAHAHA so the backers were right and Star Citizen isn't six years old or whatever.
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