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KKKLIP ART posted:This late in the game and at the first of the year? I'd be surprised if the waiting to fire him until now wasn't due to a cheaper buyout. Wouldn't sexual harassment be considered "with cause"? page 182 snypa
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Proud Christian Mom posted:its probably something that is going to make Arizona look bad so they'd rather just pay the buyout Yeah sounds like there's a good chance there is cause but they don't think it's worth it to get in a big court fight over it.
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MourningView posted:Yeah sounds like there's a good chance there is cause but they don't think it's worth it to get in a big court fight over it. Also possible that said "cause" would be something they'd be complicit in for letting it happen under their roof. Probably want to let sleeping dogs lie. Also "triangle of secrecy"  I'm in love
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It probably wasn't rhythmic slapping bad but a culture of 'get hosed Title IX' probably leaves them open to about a billion lawsuits
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Korranus posted:Wouldn't sexual harassment be considered "with cause"? "innocent until proven guilty" See also: Winston.
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Korranus posted:Wouldn't sexual harassment be considered "with cause"? It also seems like their internal investigation was genuinely unable to substantiate the claims against him. Sure, you can roll your eyes at that, but if they intentionally half-assed the investigation, why fire him anyway and say "yeah, we don't have much evidence about this specific claim but we know bad stuff was going on"? Doesn't mean the inciting claim wasn't true, but if they're going to fire him with cause the burden of proof is going to be on them. As it is, they say "yeah, we can't really prove anything specific (nothing that doesn't also incriminate us, anyway), but we can tell this is heading in a bad direction so we're going to nip this in the bud and also for the record, Rodriguez is not a great guy. So anybody else who's interested, you've been warned." All in all, they could have handled it a lot worse than they did. General Dog fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Yeah if you fire a coach for cause, you've got to be pretty iron-clad in that cause, and it would vary from case to case based on the coach's contract. It likely specifies criminal conviction as cause, as opposed to criminal investigation, or something along those lines.
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tk posted:I’ll never understand how people hear “could not be substantiated” as “found me innocent of any wrongdoing”. To be fair it doesn't mean you're guilty either but you're right it works both ways
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Brewster is a solid hire. He was killer in that same position at Texas.
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Komet posted:Sumlin would be a great hire for them. NOT SO FAST https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/948413518205747200
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Obviously Arizona is a harder place to recruit to but aside from last year Butch's Tennessee tenure would look pretty good at Arizona and they have a pretty good opportunity with ASU going completely insane. And really there isn't THAT big a gap between what Butch and Sumlin did in the SEC, aside from the first year when Sumlin had an all time great QB and stacked offensive line that he didn't recruit and Kliff calling plays
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MourningView posted:They should give them all a full release from the LOI then And winning lottery tickets should grow on my orchid plant instead of flowers. However,
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This is where mainly focusing on one conference gets me, I don't know what Sumlin is good or bad at, just that people here are mixed on him.
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regulargonzalez posted:And winning lottery tickets should grow on my orchid plant instead of flowers. However, I know it won't actually happen, dummy, that's why I called them out on the timing. I understand that LOIs are wildly unfair to the players, that doesn't mean I have to think it's a good thing
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Duckaerobics posted:I haven't followed his career super close, but as a fan of a team that played aTm every year I'll give my quick opinion. Thank you, I appreciate it. Well luckily Arizona doesn't really have very many big games to lose, lol. Les Miles and Butch kind of seem in the same mold. Re: Recruits, there was some thought that Arizona actually wanted to back out of some of the recruits they locked in when the team was projected to be a 3 win team if they could do it without looking bad, although maybe at this point in the game it's still a bad idea (not saying that ROIs aren't completely unfair)
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In a situation like this it won't be too difficult for kids to get a release. The kids ask Arizona, if Arizona says no they can appeal to the NCAA under extenuating circumstances (e.g. your future coach being fired mere weeks after signing). Unless the whole of the class is going to go elsewhere and potentially cripple the program most schools do grant releases because it's easier than having disgruntled, volatile players to watch over and let integrate into your team, you just never read about them because it happens smoothly and the only people that read the blurb (unless it's a blue chipper) are that team's fans. The only time you read about releases is when things go poorly and most of the time the pressure from being a national story is enough to get the school to cooperate anyway. What will probably happen is Arizona is telling them to wait and see who they hired, let the coaches see what kids they want, and then they'll go from there. I'm sure a handful of kids will be released and the rest will be OK enough with the hire to stay.
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General Dog posted:It also seems like their internal investigation was genuinely unable to substantiate the claims against him. Sure, you can roll your eyes at that, but if they intentionally half-assed the investigation, why fire him anyway and say "yeah, we don't have much evidence about this specific claim but we know bad stuff was going on"? also it seemed like that the only reason they couldn't substantiate the claims was because the victim/her attorney wanted to keep certain details confidential so they could use them in upcoming litigation against RichRod and UofA. they're playing the long game and likely to win big. and is there any updates on Mizzou's OC search? I asked Gabe DeArmond what their chances are with Harrell (my choice) and he pointed me to an article that was firmly behind a paywall.
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Qwijib0 posted:http://tucson.com/news/local/breakd...ea7f93a46e.html jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus 
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Qwijib0 posted:http://tucson.com/news/local/breakd...ea7f93a46e.html Good riddance.
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Qwijib0 posted:Matt Scott with the I'd be pretty cool with Arizona firing Miller too, so I'll allow this take. e: this is solely because I dislike Sean Miller of course.
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Paying players: good, morally righteous, very cool Sexually harassing coworkers: gross, bad, decidedly uncool
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Qwijib0 posted:http://tucson.com/news/local/breakd...ea7f93a46e.html Goddamn
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Qwijib0 posted:http://tucson.com/news/local/breakd...ea7f93a46e.html  Yeah no thanks, gently caress off forever RichRod.
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Qwijib0 posted:“Nonetheless, Rodriguez made incredibly inappropriate comments to (the woman) afterwards about how his preferred style of underwear ‘visibly enhanced’ his genitalia when worn,” the claim says...
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LeeMajors posted:lol TAMU like some oil-rich Dallas dipshit trying to steal everyone's wife Aranda probably knows that when Orgeron flames out he’s got a good chance at replacing him.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Aranda probably knows that when Orgeron flames out he’s got a good chance at replacing him. Youd think TAMU would know better than to overpay an LSU DC. Short memories. Must be all the nut-squeezing.
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