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Improbable Lobster posted:The miniseries loving suckz trump_wrong.gif It's not great but it has some redeeming qualities.
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I watched it recently courtesy of the library. Miniseries bad.
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Jan 3, 2018 18:27
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:trump_wrong.gif Let's say it's not bad but has the misfortune to exist in the same universe as the Lynch movie so everyone can't help but perceive it as really awful.
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Jan 3, 2018 23:53
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The ornithopters really 'thropped, I'll give it that!
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Jan 4, 2018 00:16
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Tallgeese posted:Where the hell is Weyland-Yutani? W-Y is a shell corporation that is run by CHOAM. Any profit or revenue is immediately repatriated to the directors of CHOAM. The xenomorph is a subspecies of face dancer.
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Jan 4, 2018 01:18
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Improbable Lobster posted:The miniseries loving suckz first miniseries blows but the cod one is aight, plus it gave us this moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbdo0RMlT6A&t=47s
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Jan 4, 2018 01:43
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:first miniseries blows but the cod one is aight, plus it gave us this moment: uhh i can't put this in its context. i don't remember a big fremen worm assault in children of dune...? miniseries looks very non canon
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Jan 4, 2018 01:57
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yes, but wooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrms *fistpump*
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Jan 4, 2018 01:58
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holy poo poo, lmao james mcavoy plays leto II. i might need to watch it
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Jan 4, 2018 01:59
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hes real good in it, his scenes with paul are top notch
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Jan 4, 2018 02:01
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Honestly was too frustrated to sit through the miniseries, the acting was way too wooden. Except for Paul who instead whines and whines and whines like a spoiled poo poo. That and the special effect are horrendous. Not that I expect much from low budget shows the sandworms look awful and I can look past that, but when they cut to one of Arrakis' moons and it's literally just a photo of the earths moon tinted yellow, you know you've got something special. Children of Dune miniseries was a lot better to be sure.
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Jan 4, 2018 04:26
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Paul barely speaks in the book until he's in the desert and the exposure to the spice is causing him to have prescient visions and all of a sudden he's loving furious at his mother and ranting about the bene gesserit and the missionaria protectiva and the fact that he's choosing to take a path he's seeing forward guaranteed by the bene gesserit despite the harm that's coming to the universe as a result. in messiah he's basically bored with life and going through the motions, feeling chained to his prescient vision. in children he's trolling his sister and causing a ruckus. side note, i realized today reading Heretics Of Dune that way back at the end of Messiah, Paul doesn't see Leto in his visions. Leto can't be seen in prescient viewer's minds. Even though it goes unsaid, his reign and breeding program was all to recreate that circumstance in all of humankind.
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Jan 4, 2018 04:34
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basic hitler posted:Paul barely speaks in the book until he's in the desert and the exposure to the spice is causing him to have prescient visions and all of a sudden he's loving furious at his mother and ranting about the bene gesserit and the missionaria protectiva Hah, what a PUA. What a crazy MGTOW. e: Paul "Usul" Atreides. Muad'dibs Going Their Own Way.
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Jan 4, 2018 04:36
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Hah, what a PUA. What a crazy MGTOW. To be fair, he was a product of insane breeding schemes, probably felt a bit bitter they intended to use him as a pawn in some big political game, hated the fact his grandpappy was a floating fat hedonistic sadist. He was also seeing all the dangers and schemes fall into place that the bene gesserit were behind. The BG isn't really a protagonist until Heretics, even though they're not really antagonists either.
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basic hitler posted:To be fair, he was a product of insane breeding schemes, probably felt a bit bitter they intended to use him as a pawn in some big political game, hated the fact his grandpappy was a floating fat hedonistic sadist. Yeah I actually liked that part of the book, where he just flips out on Jessica and beats her at the BG's own "inferring all kinds of poo poo from microexpressions" game and tells her he can see she's pregnant. Also, I may be misremembering, but at that point Herbert describes him as just seeing every little detail with total clarity, like when he was piloting their 'thopter through that sandstorm after they escape. It seemed like at that point in the series, prescience was a kind of ability to forecast the future from having an incredibly clear and detailed understanding of the present, and eventually it morphs into straight-up 'magic ability to see the future' in the later books and especially with Leto II.
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Jan 4, 2018 04:49
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Yeah I actually liked that part of the book, where he just flips out on Jessica and beats her at the BG's own "inferring all kinds of poo poo from microexpressions" game and tells her he can see she's pregnant. It starts awakening as an extension of mentat-esque process of just observing data and drawing conclusions, yeah, but as he is increasingly exposed to spice and eventually undergoes the agony, it's magical at that point, and he sees things yet to happen. his initial dreams pre-awakening dont fit that mentat-mold either.
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Jan 4, 2018 04:51
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basic hitler posted:It starts awakening as an extension of mentat-esque process of just observing data and drawing conclusions, yeah, but as he is increasingly exposed to spice and eventually undergoes the agony, it's magical at that point, and he sees things like Chani dying in childbirth and stuff. Oh yeah, that reminds me that throughout Messiah he only saw a daughter and was surprised at the end when he had twins. I thought that was a nice little bit of foreshadowing that his son would be prescient and thus also shielded from Paul's prescience.
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Jan 4, 2018 04:53
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Oh yeah, that reminds me that throughout Messiah he only saw a daughter and was surprised at the end when he had twins. I thought that was a nice little bit of foreshadowing that his son would be prescient and thus also shielded from Paul's prescience. both ghani and leto were prescient I thought? they both avoided using the gift on purpose to avoid railroading themselves into a future like their father. Not seeing leto was foreshadowing of what leto would do with the BG breeding program and his need to merge atreides genes into the general populace.
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basic hitler posted:both ghani and leto were prescient I thought? they both avoided using the gift on purpose to avoid railroading themselves into a future like their father. Not seeing leto was foreshadowing of what leto would do with the BG breeding program and his need to merge atreides genes into the general populace. True but I thought they decided that only Leto would go through the spice agony/water of life thing and that he didn't have the full-blown prescience before that?
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Leto didn't want the water of life, he was kidnapped by his grandma and gurney halleck + an insane rebel fremen force fed him huge amounts of spice essence over a long period of time and waited for him to either submit to bene gesserit training and control or to show signs of abomination
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Jan 4, 2018 05:34
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poo poo I need to reread these things
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Jan 4, 2018 06:19
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Murray Mantoinette posted:poo poo I need to reread these things Me too, set $65 on Amazon tho
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Jan 4, 2018 06:21
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Imagine being so hosed up that you kidnap your 9 year old grandson and have your family goon force feed him a substance that will potentially permanently wreck his psyche.
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Jan 4, 2018 06:24
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Spinster posted:Me too, set $65 on Amazon tho I've been cheating this by using audible credits as the account renews. not really cheating because you pay monthly but still
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Jan 4, 2018 06:24
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basic hitler posted:Imagine being so hosed up that you kidnap your 9 year old grandson and have your family goon force feed him a substance that will potentially permanently wreck his psyche. Imagine being Jessica and coming home after being away for so long only to find your father inside your daughter
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Jan 4, 2018 06:38
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god drat even the Kindle editions are $60 for the collection.
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basic hitler posted:both ghani and leto were prescient I thought? they both avoided using the gift on purpose to avoid railroading themselves into a future like their father. Not seeing leto was foreshadowing of what leto would do with the BG breeding program and his need to merge atreides genes into the general populace. The male prescient supersedes the female, like how Jessica and all the reverend mothers can interact with the female memories, but the men are inscrutable. At least that's how I interpret it. Men can sense men and women but women are limited in their memories. Or it is simply a plot device.
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Jan 5, 2018 00:32
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Spinster posted:Me too, set $65 on Amazon tho just go to a local used bookstore and get them on the cheap
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Jan 5, 2018 00:40
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:just go to a local used bookstore and get them on the cheap Physical books? Are you part of the jihad? (Books are great. Do it.)
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Jan 5, 2018 00:42
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basic hitler posted:side note, i realized today reading Heretics Of Dune that way back at the end of Messiah, Paul doesn't see Leto in his visions. Leto can't be seen in prescient viewer's minds. Even though it goes unsaid, his reign and breeding program was all to recreate that circumstance in all of humankind. Herr Bazooka fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Jan 5, 2018 00:52
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:just go to a local used bookstore and get them on the cheap That's my plan, yes.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:just go to a local used bookstore and get them on the cheap That's what I did. $6 for the first three. Even came with a free photo of a trio of local nerds!
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The vanilla Duncan Idaho gholas didn't have Siona' s gene marker. In Chapterhouse, they describe how the current ghola was a mix of Siona-marked Idaho cells, and unmarked Idaho cells. The tyrant may have not been able to see large swaths of humanity due to Siona, but he could usually trace his golden path via Idaho. .... I really like Idaho's name. It shows how our words have ancient meanings now divorced from them. The Idaho river is named after the Idaho mountain it once cut through. The mountain was named after the hero Duncan Idaho. He was named for whatever, which was named for the ancient state, which was named for a tribe of native Americans, which was named for-
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mojo1701a posted:That's what I did. $6 for the first three. Even came with a free photo of a trio of local nerds! post thephoto
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Jan 5, 2018 17:22
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A_Bug_That_Thinks posted:The vanilla Duncan Idaho gholas didn't have Siona' s gene marker. In Chapterhouse, they describe how the current ghola was a mix of Siona-marked Idaho cells, and unmarked Idaho cells. Duncan Idaho's name is derived from a line of popular in-universe soft drinks. It's in the Brian Herbert books.
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Jan 5, 2018 18:22
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Communist Walrus posted:Duncan Idaho's name is derived from a line of popular in-universe soft drinks. It's in the Brian Herbert books. Jihad on Brian Herbert.
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Jan 5, 2018 18:35
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Communist Walrus posted:Duncan Idaho's name is derived from a line of popular in-universe soft drinks. It's in the Brian Herbert books. Jihad Christ, Poe's law is strong with this one
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Milo and POTUS posted:post thephoto Wish I could find it. I left it at my parents' place.
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Communist Walrus posted:Duncan Idaho's name is derived from a line of popular in-universe soft drinks. It's in the Brian Herbert books. Even better. Idaho had different exact meanings throughout the ages, which all shared themes: power, dignity, and a great taste. Like how 'sal' became 'salary' and then 'soldier', or how Arrakeen became Onn, and then Keen. The features changed, but the streets laid like ancient bones, defining the shape of the city. I love it. It makes me feel like I could grab a hold of any idea in the real world, and follow it's thread all the way back to the beginning of time, when the house of atreus was founded by a literal person who would become tantalus.
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