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SimonCat posted:Yeah, right. She's really not.
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Basebf555 posted:She's really not. She really is. Her attitude is the same as so many fans at Q/A's asking inane questions of their idols. It's quippy and referential without understanding that while a thing might have sounded cool in the movie you watched, it doesn't when you say it. She's also an awful character since her role should have been filled by Poe, who has much more chemistry with Finn.
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Jan 4, 2018 15:49
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SimonCat posted:Honestly she felt like an audience surrogate for fat cosplayers. But she's not that fat? She's zaftig. She's not model skinny, sure, but she's definitely less fat-looking than me, and I definitely look fat. Sir, I know fatness, and she is not a member of the club.
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Jan 4, 2018 15:50
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SimonCat posted:She really is. Rose is amongst my least favourite primary characters in Star Wars, but it's fairly lovely to continue on insulting Kelly Marie Tran's weight, don't you think? How does it serve you to think that she's fat?
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Jan 4, 2018 15:54
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Let's just compromise and agree her sister wasn't fat.
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Jan 4, 2018 15:57
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Waffles Inc. posted:Rose is amongst my least favourite primary characters in Star Wars, but it's fairly lovely to continue on insulting Kelly Marie Tran's weight, don't you think? It sounds like their point is that it feels as though she was written/cast to appeal to particular demographics? There's a lot of fat people? idk
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Jan 4, 2018 15:58
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SimonCat posted:She really is. If you'd said that she was a reference to cosplayers, that's a different story. I'm disputing the fat part, which I think exposes you as either a teenager that still thinks only 100 lb models are attractive, or someone that never grew out of that phase.
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Jan 4, 2018 15:59
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Trash Trick posted:It sounds like their point is that it feels as though she was cast to appeal to a specific demographic? Yeah I understand the idea is that Rose is some sort of "Tumblerina SJW" or something but that's as unsupported as the idea of the FO being the Alt Right or anything like that Rose doesn't possess the characteristics of such a person, and SimonCat doesn't find Kelly Marie Tran, Real Person, attractive and is apparently annoyed by how she...speaks in public?? and is thus ascribing characteristics to Rose Tico, Star War Mechanic
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Jan 4, 2018 16:02
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I came here to give my opinion while you argue about god metaphors: The movie sucks, script/story seems to be written by a group of 12yo. Cool throne room fight and hyperspace jump though.
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Jan 4, 2018 16:07
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Rose led them on a Spartacus rebellion and then stopped ridding him or her once they were clear.
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Jan 4, 2018 16:10
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El Chingon posted:I came here to give my opinion while you argue about god metaphors: The movie sucks, script/story seems to be written by a group of 12yo. Cool throne room fight and hyperspace jump though. The fight was cool but I'm not a fan of the look of the throne room. Too much red, and I love bright vivid color in movies but this was just too heavy handed.
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Jan 4, 2018 16:10
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They're loving horses and the characters should've at least made a nod toward the fact that they're leaving actual human children around to suffer because it's too dangerous to take them with, but Rose seems pleased as punch with how things turned out and it makes her look like the type of air-headed activist who ignores huge and actual problems in favor of her pet cause, which could be funny in some ways if the movie wasn't so obviously desperate for you to like and admire her
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Jan 4, 2018 16:27
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A majestic race of naked aliens that definitely don't just look and act like horses and smash up a casino like 20 incarnations of Space Beethoven
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Jan 4, 2018 16:33
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Hell, you'd think that Finn would have some intense feelings about child slavery, seeing as he was scooped up by the FO at a young age. Maybe the mission goes sideways because he insists on helping them instead of an immediate parking violation, but that would require that the film reference back to his actual character and make him want something in this universe other than "escape" and "follow girl"
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Jan 4, 2018 16:43
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Squashing Machine posted:Hell, you'd think that Finn would have some intense feelings about child slavery, seeing as he was scooped up by the FO at a young age. Maybe the mission goes sideways because he insists on helping them instead of an immediate parking violation, but that would require that the film reference back to his actual character and make him want something in this universe other than "escape" and "follow girl" Yea I have much more of a problem with what they did with Finn in this movie than the introduction of Rose. Rose is a brand new character, it's always challenging to insert new characters into ongoing stories. But Finn was established fairly well in TFA, but absolutely none of that is used in TLJ, and I agree that it stands out even more because of what they see on the casino planet. He really should've had some sort of a reaction that was much stronger than that.
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El Chingon posted:Cool throne room fight... I was disappointed that Snoke died so quickly and anti-climatically. He was the only 'actor' of sorts who's kinda pulled off a proper villain this group of movies. All of the other potential candidates seem to think that role just implies a combination of "screaming" and "screaming vigorously." El Chingon posted:...hyperspace jump though. I was a bit disappointed there, too. Why bother with fighters and 'dreadnaught' anti-ship lasers when you can just suicide-jump an old freighter?
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gaj70 posted:I was a bit disappointed there, too. Why bother with fighters and 'dreadnaught' anti-ship lasers when you can just suicide-jump an old freighter? For what it's worth, the Raddus was two times the size of a Star Destroyer. A normal size transport ship basically disintegrated against a Star Destroyer in Rogue One going at normal speed. Different masses, etc.. Bug on the windshield VS a bowling ball through it. The series has also depicted different types of shields. The Prequels were full of a lot of new takes on the way shields worked to restrict/not restrict incoming energy or mass. The OT had shields too of course, but you never really saw them visually on screen. So at this point you start going into technobabble realms to explain why X works when Y should work, but what about Z? Like hyperspace travel time, it just works at the speed of the plot. Teek fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jan 4, 2018 |
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Jan 4, 2018 17:05
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Blue Star posted:What does it mean to be a radical Christian? ‘Radical’ in the sense of revolutionary politics: “It is ... only in post-religious ‘atheist’ radical-emancipatory collectives that we find the proper actualization of the Idea of the Christian collective — the necessary consequence of the ‘atheistic’ nature of Christianity itself.” -Zizek The emphasis is on emancipation. In this view the Kingdom Of Heaven is synonymous with dictatorship of the proletariat. It’s why I focus on issues of exploitation, slavery, suffering, etc., while that other dude is talking a ‘cleanliness is next to godliness’ spiritual purification/perfection. This is probably why so many have issues with TLJ: the Resistance sucks. The entire conflict happens because the heroes are desperately holding onto the Resistance model even though it’s not working. They don’t help the slaves, and they’re not interested in helping the slaves. What they want is to restore their power (hence the metaphor of running out of fuel). And the culmination of the Luke narrative is that he returns to being an idiot Jedi, while retaining an ‘inner distance’. Johnson does a good job flipping the commonsense so that the virtual avatar is the real Luke, who is stabbed and killed, while his material spirit remains light-years away on the meditation island. But this means the film doesn’t really take a side - it just ‘accepts the contradiction’. (“In conclusion, Jedi-ism is a religion of contrasts.”) Luke ‘wins’ by fooling everyone into thinking he’s a godlike entity. (It is also a quiet ‘retcon’ of Yoda’s death in Episode 6: Yoda did not die of old age, according to TLJ. Yoda in a sense faked his death, combining his midichlorian Skype powers with his ability to prophecy to broadcast his avatar into the future - essentially inventing time travel.)
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Jan 4, 2018 17:31
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Waffles Inc. posted:Rose is amongst my least favourite primary characters in Star Wars, but it's fairly lovely to continue on insulting Kelly Marie Tran's weight, don't you think? I'm not being insulting to Kelly Marie Tran. If I said John Candy, or Dan Akroyd, or Chris Farley was fat, I would also be making an accurate statement. People aren't accidentally cast in major tent pole films, especially ones made by Disney. Everything about her character was carefully crafted to speak to a particular demographic. That is, the socially awkward, overweight, cosplaying fans who buy Star Wars merchandise. She looks like "regular" people, and that's why she was cast.
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Jan 4, 2018 18:13
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Squashing Machine posted:They're loving horses Wow Star Wars suddenly got real interesting in a Mike Pence kind of way.
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Jan 4, 2018 18:18
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SimonCat posted:That is, the socially awkward, overweight, cosplaying fans who buy Star Wars merchandise. She looks like "regular" people, and that's why she was cast. You're suggesting that Rose is a character designed to appeal to this demographic and yet all you've offered to support it is that Kelly Marie Tran is fat (citation needed, although she apparently now occupies the same space as Chris Farley!) Is your overall point that anyone who doesn't prescribe to SimonCat's physical beauty standards is somehow an attempt at marketing?
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Jan 4, 2018 18:49
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SimonCat posted:I'm not being insulting to Kelly Marie Tran. If I said John Candy, or Dan Akroyd, or Chris Farley was fat, I would also be making an accurate statement. People aren't accidentally cast in major tent pole films, especially ones made by Disney. Everything about her character was carefully crafted to speak to a particular demographic. That is, the socially awkward, overweight, cosplaying fans who buy Star Wars merchandise. She looks like "regular" people, and that's why she was cast. Weird thoughts.
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Jan 4, 2018 18:51
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Waffles Inc. posted:You're suggesting that Rose is a character designed to appeal to this demographic and yet all you've offered to support it is that Kelly Marie Tran is fat (citation needed, although she apparently now occupies the same space as Chris Farley!) No offense but you sound like a fat, whiny cosplayer, likely an SJW as well.
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Jan 4, 2018 18:51
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:No offense but you sound like a fat, whiny cosplayer, likely an SJW as well. Yikes
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Jan 4, 2018 18:53
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Waffles Inc. posted:Yikes No offense, of course. It's simply a fact.
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Jan 4, 2018 18:58
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I think whatever Rose is... She was boring. And had no chemistry with Finn. Also, she was fat.
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Yea look at this fatty, hopefully she understands not to lose weight otherwise she might lose out on those fat roles going forward. 
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Jan 4, 2018 19:09
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Personally the only character whose figure really stood out as non-normative to me was Kylo and his weird refrigerator chest.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:09
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:No offense, of course. It's simply a fact. Hrm I dunno OP Thanks for making this personal tho???
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Jan 4, 2018 19:14
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Waffles Inc. posted:Hrm I dunno OP I'm kidding, man.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:15
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HUNDU is just loving with you.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:16
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ah word sorry for the mini-meltdown y'all i was just weirded out
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Jan 4, 2018 19:23
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Waffles Inc. posted:ah word sorry for the mini-meltdown y'all i was just weirded out This whole conversation is very weird so it's not just you.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:28
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These SJWs just don't care who they hurt.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:30
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SJWs. SJWs. SJWs. You're all SJWs. None of you are free of sin.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:32
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Can we just get back to talking about loving horses?
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TildeATH posted:Can we just get back to talking about loving horses? Sure, what's on your mind?
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TildeATH posted:Can we just get back to talking about loving horses? Star Wars Episode 9: Mister Hands Strikes Back
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Jan 4, 2018 19:35
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Rose is a bad character but not due to casting. She coulda been far better had she not been purely used as a fan insert / love interest / boring exposition giver
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Malcolm XML posted:Rose is a bad character but not due to casting. She coulda been far better had she not been purely used as a fan insert / love interest / boring exposition giver Rose is the adult version of the kids at the end -- fans of the Resistance's icons and hagiography. She even has the s3kr1t decoder ring, and is sure to eat her Resistance(tm) Ovaltine. The final scene of the movie is due to Rose.
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