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so xbox was already doing poorly and then Nintendo released the greatest selling video game console of all time, even in Microsoft's strongest market. Nintendo expects to sell another 25 - 30 million next fiscal year. this puts the Xbox One at around 13% new console market share. Switch could have a larger overall install base by after holidays 2018. pretty sure we will hear microsoft change their tone to "expanding" and "broadening" their gaming which will ultimately mean going third-party or something
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surprising that a company that thought "cable boxes are the future, lets do hdmi passthrough with an overlay" rushed a piece of poo poo product to the market with only 32mb of the wrong kind of ram and then also made you pay $100 extra for an always on camera and microphone that you literally couldn't disconnect. complete this with requiring you to install all games at 40 gigs a pop with a non-user replaceable hard drive (despite sony having figured that out like 12 years before)
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Jan 4, 2018 20:52
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like the xbox one is basically "how to make every possible wrong decision on a consumer device.txt"
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NEED MORE MILK posted:surprising that a company that thought "cable boxes are the future, lets do hdmi passthrough with an overlay" rushed a piece of poo poo product to the market with only 32mb of the wrong kind of ram and then also made you pay $100 extra for an always on camera and microphone that you literally couldn't disconnect. complete this with requiring you to install all games at 40 gigs a pop with a non-user replaceable hard drive (despite sony having figured that out like 12 years before) you forgot the part where even if you bought the game on disc you still had to download patches almost as large as the original game because apparently microsoft couldn't figure out delta patching
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Jan 4, 2018 20:58
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The_Franz posted:you forgot the part where even if you bought the game on disc you still had to download patches almost as large as the original game because apparently microsoft couldn't figure out delta patching larger, even, when you consider that games balloon in size due to post-release content (which you may be forced to download even though it's only accessible to people who buy the dlc). The disc for Halo 5 only contains the single player data, with the entire multiplayer including post-release maps being in part of a, last time I checked, 51.9 gig mandatory update
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Jan 4, 2018 21:11
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PleasureKevin posted:pretty sure we will hear microsoft change their tone to "expanding" and "broadening" their gaming which will ultimately mean going third-party or something if there is another generation of xbox consoles they'll probably just be windows pcs made by oems, all they really need to figure out is how to get people to move to pcs but still pay that sweet sweet xbox live subscription fee
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there is 100% going to be another xbox, this is some console fanboy idea filtered down in here that it'd be otherwise the xbox one is not much of a success (though more so than e.g. the dreamcast or gamecube), but it is a solid toehold in a business area with natural monopoly tendencies, and in a room of the house with a big continued future, and as likely as not microsoft is making money off of the whole thing taken together (the subscriptions are not hay). unfortunately no numbers are published so that is speculation they'll certainly cancel every surface device, and every other strange hardware thing they do (hololens, input devices, etc.), first
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you make money three ways as a console manufacturer: 1. license fees from third party games/dlc 2. direct sales from first party games/dlc/accessories 3. online subscription revenue [if you're microsoft or sony] 1 sucks for them because they're being outsold 2:1 by sony and worse by the switch and they have no upcoming exclusives of note that they're not publishing 2 all their first party tentpole titles like halo, gears & forza have been lagging in sales with each new release while dev costs have increased 3 is the only bright spot, there's no revenue better than recurring revenue the only reason there's even an xbox today was the combo of sony stepping on their own dicks in unprecedented fashion and spending like a billion publishing unprofitable exclusives in the 360 era, now that the blank check is gone there's no reason for the xbox to exist, at least with surface they can rely on some enterprise sales and things like that qirex fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jan 4, 2018 |
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Jan 4, 2018 21:57
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qirex posted:all they really need to figure out is how to get people to move to pcs but still pay that sweet sweet xbox live subscription fee they've already started bundling Skype + Office + Xbox Live. if they can get enough gamers on that, they could probably retain some subscriptions if they drop Xbox Live or it loses some value. they can try keep some value for gamers in that package by offering Minecraft stuff and mind you Skype also seems to be going down hill. and the newer Minecraft updates (which I think require servers from MS?) also haven't taken well. it must have been painful for them to cancel their last music subscription service. that leaves LinkedIn Premium subscriptions to throw into the deal, but not gonna draw unemployable virgins.
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Jan 4, 2018 22:58
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qirex posted:if there is another generation of xbox consoles they'll probably just be windows pcs made by oems, all they really need to figure out is how to get people to move to pcs but still pay that sweet sweet xbox live subscription fee as soon as you let OEMs touch the product, you're hosed the reason console games work relatively well is that every single unit has the same microarchitecture and makes the same performance guarantees. you don't have to target three generations of graphics chip or nine different revisions of graphics driver: there is one true set of behaviors that will be valid for five to ten years. i could imagine a surface-like home pc still under microsoft control, though. e.g. an xbox-branded product that can also run office 365
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Jan 4, 2018 23:23
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there are three generations of xbone with different performance characteristics i mean it's not the insanity of the oem pc market, but ms is fragmenting their install base just fine
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Jan 4, 2018 23:26
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those are the generations exposed to users, there's also revisions within those generations that might require specific fixes by the dev
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Jan 4, 2018 23:29
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they can't very well require fixes since the promise is that poo poo w/ the brand on the xbox will work forever, and developers/publishers don't last forever even if the underlying hardware changes, the guarantees made to developers on day one have to stay intact
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Jan 4, 2018 23:33
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xbox one x costs $500 lmao
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Jan 4, 2018 23:34
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pram posted:xbox one x costs $500 lmao I got a ps4 professional for 350, it is extremely needs suiting [despite having fewer flops than the xbonx]
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qirex posted:I got a ps4 professional for 350, it is extremely needs suiting [despite having fewer flops than the xbonx] xbonx is the flop, makes u think
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cinci zoo sniper posted:xbonx is the flop, makes u think
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Jan 5, 2018 00:19
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i put a 2tb hdd in my ps4 and i can install all my games. on that note does anyone want to buy an xbox one, it's very dusty
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Jan 5, 2018 00:38
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RISCy Business posted:i put a 2tb hdd in my ps4 and i can install all my games. on that note does anyone want to buy an xbox one, it's very dusty
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Jan 5, 2018 01:52
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anthonypants posted:the xbone x comes with a 1tb drive and it's like 20-30% used before you're able to install games on it and instead of being user replaceable you get to use a usb 3.0 external hard drive lmao
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Jan 5, 2018 02:39
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[extremely microsoft voice] the xbox one. its good.
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Jan 5, 2018 02:39
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they called the fifth xbox the xbox one x
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dell are going to send me a free battery replacement for my XPS 15 as part of an initiatve to "pre-emptively" curtail some issues with the battery expanding (loving up the trackpad) in this model im reasonably sure its not a phishing attempt i loving hate this laptop, its falling apart after less tahn 2 years, the loving AC port because a cylinder in the middle of it fell out and so i charge it now via usb-c, its got like a 2 hour battery life, hopefully this new battery somehow makes this not as bad loving pos
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Jan 5, 2018 04:42
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why do they call it the xbox 360
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Jan 5, 2018 04:43
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Valeyard posted:dell are going to send me a free battery replacement for my XPS 15 as part of an initiatve to "pre-emptively" curtail some issues with the battery expanding (loving up the trackpad) in this model
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anthonypants posted:they just refreshed the xps 13 so the xps 15 refresh w/ coffee lake can't be too far behind the first mistake was buying a dell, but the second mistake was going for the 4k screen, i only wanted it because it had a gorilla glass screen + touch, the 1080p had no glass, this was a mega fail decision i might get an xps13 at some point, it looks much less hosed up
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Jan 5, 2018 04:52
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might be better awiting fora refresh with an amd lol
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Valeyard posted:i only wanted it because it had touch dyp not in a mean way i just don't "get" touch on a laptop
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flakeloaf posted:dyp esp because laptop multi-touch doesn't really work on linux
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Valeyard posted:the first mistake was buying a dell, but the second mistake was going for the 4k screen, i only wanted it because it had a gorilla glass screen + touch, the 1080p had no glass, this was a mega fail decision get an xps 13, get 1080p because both touch and 4k are loving pants-on-head stupid on a 13" screen and you may as well have the extra battery life
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flakeloaf posted:dyp its mostly a gimmick, but now that i have it its actually pretty handy. i cant name any specific use cases for it (because there isnt any, in this case) it was mainly just the glass screen i wanted something like the hp spectre 360 with the active stylus is probably a better and more useful thing
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Valeyard posted:its mostly a gimmick, but now that i have it its actually pretty handy. i cant name any specific use cases for it (because there isnt any, in this case) makes good sense
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infernal machines posted:get an xps 13, get 1080p because both touch and 4k are loving pants-on-head stupid on a 13" screen and you may as well have the extra battery life
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Jan 5, 2018 05:29
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because when you see it you turn 360 degrees and walk away 
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Jan 5, 2018 05:40
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oh god a code worker had a laptop with touchscreen and it was hilarious whenever someone bumped into the screen and moved the mouse cursor while he was typing.
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Jan 5, 2018 07:01
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Janitor Prime posted:oh god a code worker had a laptop with touchscreen and it was hilarious whenever someone bumped into the screen and moved the mouse cursor while he was typing. Do you and your coworkers truly work in such tight quarters that this is a regular occurrence? With you also close enough to see it too?
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Jan 5, 2018 07:03
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James Baud posted:Do you and your coworkers truly work in such tight quarters that this is a regular occurrence? With you also close enough to see it too? by "someone" he meant himself. he did it on purpose
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Jan 5, 2018 08:09
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Disabled the touchscreen on my xps 15 via device manager. As far as I could tell its only purpose was to gently caress up the layout of certain websites when the browser reported that my poo poo was touch-capable
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when i open it up to replace the battery, i think ill try to replace the broken ac port, but it means having to detach the loving screen
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RISCy Business posted:why do they call it the xbox 360 
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