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DariusLikewise posted:Institute Executive pay multiplier caps I would love to see this nationally implemented, or be a component of a grand trade agreement.
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Reverse every piece of anti-union legislation made over the last 60 years Ban back-to-work legislation or at least allow unions to filed an immediate charter challenge through the SC
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man the Husky dog I got here is loving this weather
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flakeloaf posted:"The loss of 60,000 jobs" out of how many? A hundred thousand? A million? Ten? The BoC's statement is effectively "nationwide" but iirc they were specifically referring to Ontario and Alberta. According to their respective governments, Ontario had an employed population of roughly 7 million people in 2016 (latest numbers I could find in a quick search) and Alberta had 2.3 million. So, 60,000 jobs out of over 9 million. Yeah, it's going to devastate the country. E: I guess if you assume all 60,000 will be minimum wage jobs, it goes up to 60,000 out of about 2 million, so, 0.03% instead of 0.006% of the labour force, roughly. The BoC also said consumer prices are expected to go up 0.1% but aggregate real wages are expected to go up 0.7% So, yeah, total devastation. The worst. HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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The whole minwage debate is really getting to me right now, because I'm constantly reading shitheels saying that minwage work is only unskilled labour and knowing that I've been looking for entry level graphic design work to do in town and it often only pays minimum wage or slightly above, and I had coffee with a classmate who is a creative director at a design firm and only makes 15.30. Like, these people act like having an education means you can make more than minimum wage, but no matter what I do I can't seem to escape it or get far from it. Even at my previous job where I made $2 above the min wage it wasn't a livable wage. But woe be to the job creators.
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Syfe posted:The whole minwage debate is really getting to me right now, because I'm constantly reading shitheels saying that minwage work is only unskilled labour and knowing that I've been looking for entry level graphic design work to do in town and it often only pays minimum wage or slightly above, and I had coffee with a classmate who is a creative director at a design firm and only makes 15.30. Like, these people act like having an education means you can make more than minimum wage, but no matter what I do I can't seem to escape it or get far from it. Even at my previous job where I made $2 above the min wage it wasn't a livable wage. gently caress them, it's not just unskilled labor it's also semiskilled labor where the supply way outstrips the demand. assholes.
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infernal machines posted:I guess the proper question is what do we consider "employment" these days The job numbers are always fudged and cherry picked and what counts as employed changes based on what they are trying to sell. The one example that always stuck out to me was Harper using "Self employed" in his numbers since it was a significant percentage of Alberta jobs jut after the oil market crash but by no means was accurate or reflective of the actual job market in that province or country.
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Jan 5, 2018 19:27
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Are we using Labour force participation? The one where you don't count people on EI or assistance or people who just don't care about finding jobs or whatever
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There are so many people I know who would benefit from a minimum wage increase but we're not going to get it because the people living in a place with one of the cheapest costs of living got mad at a 1% GST increase and now we're losing ERs and bus fare is skyrocketing.
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EvilJoven posted:There are so many people I know who would benefit from a minimum wage increase but we're not going to get it because the people living in a place with one of the cheapest costs of living got mad at a 1% GST increase and now we're losing ERs and bus fare is skyrocketing. That's radically oversimplifying things but ok (Hint: half their party didn't like them and tried to initiate a coup because they were so mediocre) E: Also I'm pretty sure bus fares are a municipal thing? TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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EvilJoven posted:There are so many people I know who would benefit from a minimum wage increase but we're not going to get it because the people living in a place with one of the cheapest costs of living got mad at a 1% GST increase and now we're losing ERs and bus fare is skyrocketing. You really need to leave Winnipeg, you sound miserable as hell. Just dont ask me where you could go because I certainly wouldnt suggest Ontario post-Patrick Brown if you are planning on using public transit or healthcare.  
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Ya it really is oversimplified but I didn't feel like making a paragraphs long effortpost outlining how even the NDP can turn to garbage if lovely self serving career politicians are left in power for too long and that the party leadership stuck around for far too long while eating breakfast. The current pathetic state of the NDP is the result of a multi faceted failure and it sucks that the narrative being spun by the right about the current leadership is as effective as it is. At least Pallister's hatchet job is so visible that it may still result in him only getting a single term.Furnaceface posted:You really need to leave Winnipeg, you sound miserable as hell. I don't think Winnipeg is the problem. Things are a work in progress. Also quote:E: Also I'm pretty sure bus fares are a municipal thing? The large fare increase is due to the provincial government freezing their portion of public transit funding at 2016 levels, rather than growing it along with inflation. EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Jan 5, 2018 20:07
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http://www.focusonvictoria.ca/janfeb2018/bridge-design-flaw-hidden-for-a-year-then-given-quick-and-dirty-repair-r15/ Jesus, Victoria's bridge fiasco keeps getting better and better. They've had to hack on this big ugly panel due to some new design or manufacturing flaw made by the lowest-bidder chinese company. The article covers this new delightful development but then goes back and puts the whole saga into perspective as well. 
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EvilJoven posted:Ya it really is oversimplified but I didn't feel like making a paragraphs long effortpost outlining how even the NDP can turn to garbage if lovely self serving career politicians are left in power for too long and that the party leadership stuck around for far too long while eating breakfast. The current pathetic state of the NDP is the result of a multi faceted failure and it sucks that the narrative being spun by the right about the current leadership is as effective as it is. At least Pallister's hatchet job is so visible that it may still result in him only getting a single term. If that worthless gently caress isn't out in 2020 I'm moving, and I'll campaign for the NDP to do what I can to make sure it happens.
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Right now we are either rocketing towards a NDP/Liberal Minority government or a larger PC Majority because the Liberals got better and split the left vote.
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A Typical Goon posted:Lol at the idiots in this thread being surprised by business owners stealing from their wage slaves https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/949287462408372230
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EvilJoven posted:even the NDP can turn to garbage if lovely self serving career politicians are left in power for too long Actually the NDP's default status is garbage. People often mistake my qualified support for the party (and my advice that people maintain some level of involvement with them) as some kind of partisan endorsement but the NDP is terrible and their actual record of time in government only makes them, at best, moderately better than the truly awful Liberal and Conservative alternatives. The party could conceivably be a vehicle for a motivated political movement from the left but as the party currently exists it is structurally incapable of accomplishing anything of significance.
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The NDP, and all socdem parties really, are garbage because they are still working for the benefits of the monied class. Using democracy to curb only the worst excesses of capitalism doesn’t work because the system inherently funnels money to the rich, who then use that money to increase their own political power and interests. Sure you won’t find many Leftists that hate New Deal economics, but if you have to do a new New Deal every 50 years to tackle obscene wealth inequality then the problem isn’t with the parties, the fundamental problem is the system. Social democrat, Liberal, Conservative, they’re are all part of the same twisted system that is fundamentally designed to put money and therefore power into the hands of the rich few Vote Marxist bitches 
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Helsing posted:Actually the NDP's default status is garbage. So where does a Canadian leftist go? I've kind of reached the same conclusion, the NDP seem determined to steer to the center without any acknowledgement in the changing dynamics of anglo-american politics. There just seems to be a complete lack of political organization I can really commit to. I've focused my energy on local issues and volunteering that affect my family and the community which has been great in that it provides a tangible goal with real benefits and encourages you to work with people of all political stripes. But at least in Toronto over the past 5 years there doesn't seem to be much to support.
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The NDP are basically the british labour party but with much more effective internal controls to prevent people like Corbyn from ever becoming leader and sinking the party's gains with dangerous unapologetic leftism. We need strong stable middle of the road leaders that don't offend the middle class or those working to join it.
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It seems that the Canadian leftist either leaves or just hangs on until there's a massive paridigm shift in the country. Hopefully this shift doesn't involve violence. If it does involve violence hopefully it won't happen to us.
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If you could actually change anything by voting they wouldn’t let you do it. I’ll be holding my nose and voting liberal this election. They’ve somehow swung so far to the right they found themselves swinging out to the left. The fact that Wynne told those small business people to get hosed is even better. I want zero sympathy or mercy for any business owner.
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EvilJoven posted:Ya it really is oversimplified but I didn't feel like making a paragraphs long effortpost outlining how even the NDP can turn to garbage if lovely self serving career politicians are left in power for too long and that the party leadership stuck around for far too long while eating breakfast. The current pathetic state of the NDP is the result of a multi faceted failure and it sucks that the narrative being spun by the right about the current leadership is as effective as it is. At least Pallister's hatchet job is so visible that it may still result in him only getting a single term. Greg Selinger was a crony-capitalist right-wing Premier who's only purpose was to cultivate pet road projects so he had an easier drive out to his cottage.
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Kraftwerk posted:If you could actually change anything by voting they wouldn’t let you do it. At least post the thing. I'm starting to like her, she's the most amazing political super villain of our time. I'm leaning towards voting for her because I think that's the best vote to spite people who vote for her. quote:https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2018/01/05/pick-a-fight-with-me-mr-joyce-not-those-working-the-pickup-window.html
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It seems like every politician ends up 'improving' the road to their home, it's like a cliche. Sellinger and the roads in MB. Mike Harris and the twinning of HWY11 up to North Bay. Sheila Copps literally getting the road paved to the laneway of her cottage (I forget which one but I'm p sure it was either a stretch of Black Lake Rd or Pannache Lake Rd but it really did get paved right up to her lane and not a foot further).
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EvilJoven posted:It seems like every politician ends up 'improving' the road to their home, it's like a cliche. Sellinger and the roads in MB. Mike Harris and the twinning of HWY11 up to North Bay. Sheila Copps literally getting the road paved to the laneway of her cottage (I forget which one but I'm p sure it was either a stretch of Black Lake Rd or Pannache Lake Rd but it really did get paved right up to her lane and not a foot further). Vancouver mayor Gregor Robertson too, lol
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EvilJoven posted:It seems like every politician ends up 'improving' the road to their home, it's like a cliche. Sellinger and the roads in MB. Mike Harris and the twinning of HWY11 up to North Bay. Sheila Copps literally getting the road paved to the laneway of her cottage (I forget which one but I'm p sure it was either a stretch of Black Lake Rd or Pannache Lake Rd but it really did get paved right up to her lane and not a foot further). When I was last in Ukraine people would comment on every super nice well paved but empty highway to nowhere saying which local politician had a dacha or villa out that way. Some stopped half way because the politician went to jail or something before he could finish his personal highway project, but then the anti-corruption candidate that took his place transferred all the funds to pave a road to his dacha instead, which would be totally expected. In fact people would buy land and invest in developments based on this. "Oh, the leading candidate has a huge summer home at the end of this unpaved rural highway? Time to buy up land because that will surely be a big paved 4 lane deal in a couple years!"
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Baronjutter posted:http://www.focusonvictoria.ca/janfeb2018/bridge-design-flaw-hidden-for-a-year-then-given-quick-and-dirty-repair-r15/ In the Victoria Reddit there were some people talking about how this was actually fine and normal. Normally the Victoria Reddit is making GBS threads all over Lisa Helps and doing everything they can to talk about how everything in Victoria is poo poo and Langford and Saanich are awesome so I'm inclined to believe that this is actually fine. Also one of the people may have been an actual engineer. That being said I am not an engineer so it may actually be bad and horrible.
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Chicken posted:In the Victoria Reddit there were some people talking about how this was actually fine and normal. Normally the Victoria Reddit is making GBS threads all over Lisa Helps and doing everything they can to talk about how everything in Victoria is poo poo and Langford and Saanich are awesome so I'm inclined to believe that this is actually fine. Also one of the people may have been an actual engineer. That being said I am not an engineer so it may actually be bad and horrible. I mean it's probably structurally sound, but it's like buying a new car and finding out it has a rebuilt title.
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Chicken posted:In the Victoria Reddit there were some people talking about how this was actually fine and normal. Normally the Victoria Reddit is making GBS threads all over Lisa Helps and doing everything they can to talk about how everything in Victoria is poo poo and Langford and Saanich are awesome so I'm inclined to believe that this is actually fine. Also one of the people may have been an actual engineer. That being said I am not an engineer so it may actually be bad and horrible. I've lived in the CRD for only two years now so I still don't get what the gently caress is the deal with Victoria and Saanich people seeming to be at each other's throats. 
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Fried Watermelon posted:Good thing Pallister lives in Costa Rica so we won't have this frivolous spending anymore I still voted for Selinger, he was the least bad option but him and Doer were two shills in a pod
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DariusLikewise posted:I still voted for Selinger, he was the least bad option but him and Doer were two shills in a pod CanPol Megathread: I still voted for the least bad option
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Kazinsal posted:I've lived in the CRD for only two years now so I still don't get what the gently caress is the deal with Victoria and Saanich people seeming to be at each other's throats. Saanich has gone all-in on cars, low density restrictions, and class segregation. Victoria is trying to do transit and bikes and actually pays the costs associated with the region's homeless. Most of the time when you hear someone raging about Lisa Helps and her war on cars and handouts to the lazy they're not even a victoria voter, they live in Saanich or Langford and just want victoria to subsidize their driving and free parking. But don't dare ask any surrounding municipality to build a homeless shelter or affordable housing or anything, that all needs to be dumped in Victoria and paid for by Victoria alone. At the same time they'll complain endlessly that Victoria spends too much on handouts to homeless people and that's why there's so many, it's like feeding seagulls you see!
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Baronjutter posted:Most of the time when you hear someone raging about [CITY MAYOR] and [HIS/HER] war on cars and handouts to the lazy they're not even a [CITY] voter, they live in [SUBURB-A] or [SUBURB-B] and just want [CITY] to subsidize their driving and free parking. But don't dare ask any surrounding municipality to build a homeless shelter or affordable housing or anything, that all needs to be dumped in [CITY] and paid for by [CITY] alone. At the same time they'll complain endlessly that [CITY] spends too much on handouts to homeless people and that's why there's so many, it's like feeding [REGIONAL PEST ANIMAL] you see!
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EvilJoven posted:This is why cities need toll gates at all entrances. Works for London
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EvilJoven posted:This is why cities need toll gates at all entrances. I'm socially liberal but fiscally conservative. Oh, poo poo. Toll gates. My bad, I'm sorry.
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