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Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
Henry just gave up.

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Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Gaunab posted:

Henry just gave up.
He was already having a panic attack in the opening credits. He didn't have it in him this game.

Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jan 2, 2018

PSXer
Aug 2, 2006

The most exciting use of 1s and 0s next to internet porn
At least he knows who Bob Ross was, unlike Trebek. Guess they should have put it on his cue cards.

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Have the judges gotten pickier or am I just now noticing it? Thinking of the Gangsta’s paradise and LDS questions.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
AFAIK the rule has always been that you can gently caress up the spelling or the pronunciation (as long as it remains phonetic), but you can't add syllables or alter the phonetic pronunciation. It's why that kid got marked down for "Emanciptation Proclamation" -- adding the T hosed up the pronunciation enough that it was no longer phonetically viable.

So ending "Gangsta" with a clear "-er" is always going to be marked wrong.

"Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints" is different, that one's a whole word off. They wouldn't accept "Of Mice Or Men" in a Steinbeck category and they can't accept that.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
What about Of Not (Not Mice Or Not Men)?

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

haveblue posted:

What about Of Not (Not Mice Or Not Men)?

haha

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Soothing Vapors posted:

AFAIK the rule has always been that you can gently caress up the spelling or the pronunciation (as long as it remains phonetic), but you can't add syllables or alter the phonetic pronunciation. It's why that kid got marked down for "Emanciptation Proclamation" -- adding the T hosed up the pronunciation enough that it was no longer phonetically viable.

So ending "Gangsta" with a clear "-er" is always going to be marked wrong.

"Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints" is different, that one's a whole word off. They wouldn't accept "Of Mice Or Men" in a Steinbeck category and they can't accept that.

Yeah, this. It's always been explained as such by the Head Contestant Coordinator, the incomparable Maggie Speak, in the Green Room prior to taping. As long as your misspelling doesn't mess up the phonetic pronunciation, or your pronunciation is a viable phonetic reading of the correct response, you're golden. The example they always give us spelling-wise is Reykjavik.

And if they're asking for a proper name, you need the full proper name for it to count. If you add too much information, that information better all be correct. We were discussing in the contestant Facebook group whether "What is the Mormons?" or "What is the LDS Church?" or "What is the Church of Latter Day Saints?" would be correct and we figured that all of them probably would've been seen as acceptable by the judges. Going for the full name, but changing a word there unfortunately gets you negged as an incorrect response.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jan 3, 2018

CaligulaKangaroo
Jul 26, 2012

MAY YOUR HALLOWEEN BE AS STUPID AS MY LIFE IS

PSXer posted:

At least he knows who Bob Ross was, unlike Trebek.

Has Bob Ross never been an answer on the show before? Because I thought there was at least one time they asked about him, but I can't find anything on J-Archive.

rchandra
Apr 30, 2013


GhostStalker posted:

Yeah, this. It's always been explained as such by the Head Contestant Coordinator, the incomparable Maggie Speak, in the Green Room prior to taping. As long as your misspelling doesn't mess up the phonetic pronunciation, or your pronunciation is a viable phonetic reading of the correct response, you're golden. The example they always give us spelling-wise is Reykjavik.

And if they're asking for a proper name, you need the full proper name for it to count. If you add too much information, that information better all be correct. We were discussing in the contestant Facebook group whether "What is the Mormons?" or "What is the LDS Church?" or "What is the Church of Latter Day Saints?" and we figured that all of them probably would've been seen as acceptable by the judges. Going for the full name, but changing a word there unfortunately gets you negged as an incorrect response.

In some situations like this (doesn't apply in Final of course), Alex makes it clear that the answer was almost correct - hinting that other players should buzz in and fix the response. Why do that - and does he ever get flak over when he does/doesn't hint?

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
The official producer response on Gangsta's Paradise is as pedantic as I think any of us could have hoped for

quote:

Every contestant response is reviewed at the Judges’ Table during live gameplay to ensure that it is complete and accurate. Likewise, any change in scoring causes the game to be paused for a discussion between the producers, the writers and the independent third-party observers to ensure that the rules being applied are fair and consistent. Today’s Double Jeopardy! round was no exception: The judges ultimately ruled against Nick’s response of “Gangster’s Paradise Lost,” and it all came down to one syllable.

The $1600 clue in the MUSIC & LITERATURE BEFORE & AFTER category called for the combined title of two works: “A song by Coolio from ‘Dangerous Minds’ goes back in time to become a 1667 John Milton classic.”

The correct response? “What is Gangsta’s Paradise Lost?”

Although Nick’s response of “Gangster’s Paradise Lost” was initially accepted, the hard R sound caught the ear of one member of the onstage team, who immediately followed up with a quick check.

It turns out that “gangsta” and “gangster” are both listed separately in the Oxford English Dictionary, each with its own unique definition.

Nick changed not only the song’s title, but also its meaning ­– making his response unacceptable.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

GhostStalker posted:

And if they're asking for a proper name, you need the full proper name for it to count. If you add too much information, that information better all be correct. We were discussing in the contestant Facebook group whether "What is the Mormons?" or "What is the LDS Church?" or "What is the Church of Latter Day Saints?" and we figured that all of them probably would've been seen as acceptable by the judges. Going for the full name, but changing a word there unfortunately gets you negged as an incorrect response.
My thought at the time was that "the Mormons" wouldn't have passed muster, because that theoretically refers to both the Church and its congregants, while the clue called for just the Church. I'm betting they would have accepted "Mormon Church," "LDS Church," or "Church of Latter Day Saints?" that made sense. I really wish one of them had tried an alternative like that so we could have seen.

rchandra posted:

In some situations like this (doesn't apply in Final of course), Alex makes it clear that the answer was almost correct - hinting that other players should buzz in and fix the response. Why do that - and does he ever get flak over when he does/doesn't hint?

Alex is bad at his job

seriously, he does poo poo like that all the time and its like the one thing he should not be doing

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Soothing Vapors posted:

The official producer response on Gangsta's Paradise is as pedantic as I think any of us could have hoped for

I pronounce both of those words identically, so... sucks to be me I suppose.

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
I pronounce "assistance" and "assistants" slightly differently, but I still wasn't anywhere close on that "Answer the Homophone" clue.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Soothing Vapors posted:

My thought at the time was that "the Mormons" wouldn't have passed muster, because that theoretically refers to both the Church and its congregants, while the clue called for just the Church. I'm betting they would have accepted "Mormon Church," "LDS Church," or "Church of Latter Day Saints?" that made sense. I really wish one of them had tried an alternative like that so we could have seen.

The consensus was that since "the Mormons" is a common vernacular way to refer to both the church and its members, even by the church and those members itself (according to an ex-member who was in our Facebook group), alongside its official name and the aforementioned "LDS Church" and "Church of Latter Day Saints", it should've been acceptable. Apparently, there were a bunch of commercials promoting the Church that someone looked up that stated that they were brought to you by "the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Mormons", including the commercial referenced in the clue, so there's that as well.

Unkempt posted:

I pronounce both of those words identically, so... sucks to be me I suppose.
There's a noticeable difference if I pronounce the hard R at the end or not, and I assume in most accents as well. Maybe a dialect thing here? Regardless, I probably would've ruled against him as well.

rchandra posted:

In some situations like this (doesn't apply in Final of course), Alex makes it clear that the answer was almost correct - hinting that other players should buzz in and fix the response. Why do that - and does he ever get flak over when he does/doesn't hint?
Trebek has some leeway when asking for a contestant's response to "be more specific"; sometimes he'll decide to do that when the answer is close or way too general, yes, but other times he's prompted to do so by the judges when he glances over at their table to seek confirmation on a response. Sometimes he'll decide to accept an answer, then corrects himself quickly with a glance at the judges table to "be more specific" instead. It's all kinda up to him and the judges when he'll do it and what responses prompt it, and Maggie and the other Contestant Coordinators say as much in the Green Room and during our prep mock game with producer Glenn prior to taping.

If Alex rules you correct with an unexpected response, states their expected one, then the judges rule it was wrong to credit you with the one you gave immediately afterwards, they'll deduct the amount for that clue, but won't give the other contestants a chance to answer because they already stated their expected one. I've seen that happen a couple of times, but not as often as a BMS prompt.

GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 3, 2018

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Apparently, the filming of this year's college tournament has been postponed until March, with no explanation given other than it'll be "in the news."

...that's not good.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
Quoting myself from right after Matt Lauer-gate:

Sir Lemming posted:

Now let's just pray nothing comes out about Trebek :ohdear:

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/949061643232686086?s=17

Alex had surgery for a sub-dural hematoma. He's recovering and will be back soon.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

skaboomizzy posted:

https://twitter.com/Jeopardy/status/949061643232686086?s=17

Alex had surgery for a sub-dural hematoma. He's recovering and will be back soon.

That's good. According to former participants, taping for the College Tournament usually takes place in January, and the studio is apparently not in use at the moment according to people in the area. Still, Trebek should take the time to recover, and if they move the tape date back a bit to allow him to do so, I'm all for it.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Bet $100 he's wearing that cap because they had to shave part of his head for surgery.

With a shaved head and shaved mustache, I legit don't think I'd recognize him :(

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
You may be right. As far as I can tell from 8 seconds on Google, Alex has only been photographed once before in something so venal and common as a ballcap.

But my god, it's glorious

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
I can't stop Googling Alex in hats now. I have a brief due tomorrow. This is still time well spent

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > JEOPARDY! I can't stop Googling Alex in hats

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Glad it’s nothing too serious. The post before the reveal was ominous.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

HookShot posted:

The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > JEOPARDY! I can't stop Googling Alex in hats
lol

:swoon:

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Zesty posted:

Glad it’s nothing too serious. The post before the reveal was ominous.

Yeah, plus the only thing in the news lately that isn't Trump is sex abuse scandals halting production of things, so "it'll be in the news soon" certainly wasn't reassuring.

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

Sir Lemming posted:

Yeah, plus the only thing in the news lately that isn't Trump is sex abuse scandals halting production of things, so "it'll be in the news soon" certainly wasn't reassuring.

Trebek liked to trap women in bathrooms and not let them out until he finished explaining the category

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Bunch of us old Jeopardy contestants are putting together a bunch of get well photos to Trebek, coordinated by Jennifer Morrow on Facebook, so I'm gonna be getting in on that. Alex is notorious for forgetting contestant names, but I figure Maggie can refresh his memory when we send all of them to Sony Pictures.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
Folks did you know GhostStalker was on Jeopardy and talks with other former contestants on Facebook? Incredible.

Syzygy Stardust
Mar 1, 2017

by R. Guyovich
I am also notorious for forgetting the names of the 500 or so people I meet every year for about an hour each as a routine part of my job.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Syzygy Stardust posted:

I am also notorious for forgetting the names of the 500 or so people I meet every year for about an hour each as a routine part of my job.

Nah, he forgets champion names as well even if they've been there for a while. Like, according to the people at the taping two ToCs back, he forgot the name of both Matt Jackson and Alex Jacob.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

GhostStalker posted:

Nah, he forgets champion names as well even if they've been there for a while. Like, according to the people at the taping two ToCs back, he forgot the name of both Matt Jackson and Alex Jacob.

whoosh

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i wasn't paying too much attention to the names on tonight's epsiode, but when brandon mentioned having something like 600 game show themes on mp3, i thought he sounded like someone i knew.

i'm still not sure, but if he is the dude i know, he was also a (5 day, i think) champ on tom bergeron's version of hollywood squares.

edit: college tournament champ, still can't figure out if he's the same dude just yet.

Gene Hackman Fan fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jan 6, 2018

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
I liked Sean. He reminded ,me of an actor or a comedian, but I couldn't place who

puppets freak me out
Dec 18, 2015

I imagine someone from BSS is gonna break down my door to correct me on this, but the FJ today had a really interesting choice of words:

"In 1946, MLJ Mags. changed its name to this “Comics”, incorporating the first name of its popular teenage hero."

Answer was do people really care about Final Jeopardy spoilers? It was Archie.

I really wouldn't consider that character a hero... He's just more of a character. It felt really misleading.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Soothing Vapors posted:

I liked Sean. He reminded ,me of an actor or a comedian, but I couldn't place who

Not show related, but where is your avatar from?

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

puppets freak me out posted:

I imagine someone from BSS is gonna break down my door to correct me on this, but the FJ today had a really interesting choice of words:

"In 1946, MLJ Mags. changed its name to this “Comics”, incorporating the first name of its popular teenage hero."

Answer was do people really care about Final Jeopardy spoilers? It was Archie.

I really wouldn't consider that character a hero... He's just more of a character. It felt really misleading.

It probably is misleading on technicalities given most people have only likely heard of DC or Marvel so the writers were trying to go for the RC Cola of comics. Known but not well known. They aren’t going to use something like Nowhere Men or Chew unless it was on Film or TV

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Mister Kingdom posted:

Not show related, but where is your avatar from?

season finale of American Gods on Starz

(spoilers)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjDiX6NdFkM

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
Is the Spanish Civil War considered particularly obscure in the US? I keep assuming it's common knowledge, but no one seems to have heard of it (even Jeopardy contestants!)

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