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One of the nice quirks of the game is how even the forgettable 'go here and kill a thing quests' have some tie in to a bit of world-building for the player. Like how the Griffin at White Orchard is only pissed off because the Nilfgaardians killed its mate and didn't know what they were dealing with or a couple of the quests you get from the Nilfgaard army camp just have you following the corpses of deserters. It's a subtle but fantastic way of getting the player to internalise things like 'Nilfgaard has forgotten how to deal with monsters'. e: \/\/\/ that is exactly the same thing I am thinking as I play Origins now. The thing is, quite a few of the quests in W3 are generic 'walk 200yds off the main road, kill a monster', but there's always some atmosphere thrown in to make it enjoyable at the time. A brilliant example is the 'fetch the pellar's goat' quest. Gameplay wise it's a loving standard escort quest, mercifully short. What makes it fun and memorable is that Geralt is just as frustrated as the player that he's got this bullshit task, and they throw in an unexpected mini-boss fight at the end. AC:Origins isn't Ubisoft doing W3, it's Ubisoft doing Farcry: Swords and Spears. It's great, but people are making the wrong comparison with it. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jan 4, 2018 |
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Alchenar posted:One of the nice quirks of the game is how even the forgettable 'go here and kill a thing quests' have some tie in to a bit of world-building for the player. Like how the Griffin at White Orchard is only pissed off because the Nilfgaardians killed its mate and didn't know what they were dealing with or a couple of the quests you get from the Nilfgaard army camp just have you following the corpses of deserters. Yeah, I've started playing Asscreed Origins because it was recommended to me as a similar RPG to TW3, and this is the main difference I'm missing. The world in that game is flat, the quests are generic, etc. Meanwhile the world of TW3 may not be as breathtaking ancient Egypt, but every little hidden spot you find has some sort of backstory and every illiterate peasant you save from an overgrown rat has a tale to tell. It really makes a difference.
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Jan 4, 2018 13:57
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chaosapiant posted:The crossbow is only good for knocking enemies out of the sky or killing them underwater. Don’t worry about how much damage it does otherwise. There's also a certain cyclops with a barrel on his head that can be one shot by the crossbow if you shoot the hole in the barrel.
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Jan 4, 2018 15:02
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DoctorGonzo posted:WHAT THE gently caress? It's part of the quest "Skellige's Most Wanted".
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Jan 4, 2018 15:11
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Which gives you the coolest boots in the game
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Jan 4, 2018 18:16
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i hope ciri ends up in their new game in just a sort of minor way. you might encounter her as part of a quest or something but she doesn't play a big part.
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Jan 4, 2018 18:51
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I think CDPR have earned some faith that they won’t do [really obviously terrible thing] in their next game.
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Jan 4, 2018 19:25
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WHAT THE gently caress GAME?? Priscilla 
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Jan 5, 2018 02:44
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Arrgytehpirate posted:WHAT THE gently caress GAME?? pay close attention to the investigation, new players often gently caress it up
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Jan 5, 2018 03:23
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Fuzz posted:Triss is such an rear end in a top hat.  
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Jan 5, 2018 03:27
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Skellybones posted:Ending stuff: i did that too and ciri had those flashbacks but then smiles and she came back and i hid her from her bio dad and we hung out being cool witchers when i wasnt relaxing at home in kovir w triss. you did something different somewhere!
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Jan 5, 2018 04:07
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I'm still in Velen! The Village Witch: Keira Metz is great! I really enjoyed that whole Elf Mage's lab caves and I got a badass sword from the Wild Hunt rider that was left to fight me. I'm assuming the elf mage is Avallac'h from the books? I've not done Keira's follow up quests yet but so far I like what they've done with her. The Bloody Baron Not finished with this one yet but holy Christ so far I've rescued a goat, reburied a dead baby, followed said baby's ghost, and found out that Tamara Strenger is actually in Oxenfurt. Now I've got to go find Anna. The Baron himself is confusing to me. On occasion I want to help the poor bastard but something about this whole story is...off. Why was Tamara loving with black magic and the cult of the eternal fire? Why did Anna have fire marks on her hands? Why did she need an actual amulet to ward off evil? WHAT TORE OFF HER HORSE'S HEAD? Lynch Mob Saved the poor Nilfgaardian deserter that was about to be hanged. I hope he makes it back to his baby.
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Omnicarus posted:I'm still in Velen! The Baron is a complex character. On one hand he's a wife-beating thug piece of poo poo, on the other he seems genuinely remorseful and treats Ciri very well. One of the reasons the Bloody Baron quest chain is often cited as one of the very highest points of W3 is because he's so human and sympathetic while also being a terrible person.
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Jan 5, 2018 04:19
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Producitve rear end night. Fun fact, I didn't know this until i almost beat the game. There's a merchant in the main town in Skellige near the docks and he sells a map that reveals at least one of the travel posts on all the islands so you don't have to go boating. Doesn't solve the problem of Roach sometimes doing more harm than good inland, but there you go.
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Jan 5, 2018 05:20
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  I'm still somewhere mid-BaW, mostly because I don't want to finish the game and it's incredibly relaxing to just ride through Touissant. I've noticed that the menu really could use a search function. I've gotten an underwater hidden treasure quest, got pissed at trying to find which decoction lets you stay underwater for longer and decided to do it anyway. I've also got good enough at picking Skellige cards to finish that tournament quest. I wouldn't recommend going after that quest without Cerys, cow and that weird phoenix-like bird.
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Jan 5, 2018 15:01
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alex314 posted:I've gotten an underwater hidden treasure quest, got pissed at trying to find which decoction lets you stay underwater for longer and decided to do it anyway. Blue whale. It’s the yellow potion in a mason jar.
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Pellisworth posted:The Baron is a complex character. On one hand he's a wife-beating thug piece of poo poo, on the other he seems genuinely remorseful and treats Ciri very well. One of the reasons the Bloody Baron quest chain is often cited as one of the very highest points of W3 is because he's so human and sympathetic while also being a terrible person. I know that I fuckered his quest line up because mine ended when he hung himself
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Jan 5, 2018 16:21
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Iron Crowned posted:I know that I fuckered his quest line up because mine ended when he hung himself Well the major branch in that quest isn't obvious, there's no clear (have compassion for BB) / (BB can get hosed) option. The choice is whether you help the Crones with the spirit under the Whispering Hillock or not. If you help the Crones and kill the spirit: -The spirit itself is probably a powerful evil and you killed it instead of unleashing it -The Crones eat the orphans -Downwarren is spared -Anna is insane but physically okay, the Baron decides to take her away and try to heal her -The Baron's Sergeant is in command and is probably even more brutal to the peasants of Velen If you unleash the spirit: -A powerful evil is unleashed on the world -The spirit saves the orphans, check out the school in Novigrad -The spirit fucks up Downwarren because they worship the Crones -Anna is transformed into a water hag and you have to kill her, the Baron hangs himself -The Baron's Sergeant is in command and is probably even more brutal to the peasants of Velen There's no good outcome, whichever way you resolve it life gets worse for the peasants of Velen. There's also a sequence-breaking path if you unleash the spirit before meeting the Crones. I'm not sure if the orphans are saved in that instance but the Crones don't get pissed, Anna lives, Baron lives.
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Been a busy bit. Hunted down Priscilla’s attacker. Not sure how you could mess that up. if I had cast the old actress in the play would she have been attacked instead? Been running around finishing up side quest before I head to skellige. Just have Triss and Roche left for major ones. They’ve mostly been not super interesting except the Radovid one. He was a oval office so I did badly on it. Gotta say I didn’t expect his reaction when I called his men out on their bullshit. Oh well gently caress him I hope Philippa grows her eyes back and then skullfucks him.
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Jan 5, 2018 21:56
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Been a busy bit. Hunted down Priscilla’s attacker. Not sure how you could mess that up. If you just kill the torturing priest without finding out he's being framed by the vampire. Note here's still a bad guy and you should off him too
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Been a busy bit. Hunted down Priscilla’s attacker. Not sure how you could mess that up. What you just wrote can be read two ways, but if you genuinely have no idea what the potential failure point was, cough, you may have messed it up. The killer wasn't the priest.
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Yeah, I meant who doesn’t explore every dialogue option before murdering. I assume that if I killed the priest the vampire skips town or does he keep killing so you know you messed up?
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Yeah, I meant who doesn’t explore every dialogue option before murdering. Kills one more and leaves another note taunting Geralt before skipping town.
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Jan 5, 2018 22:56
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Radovid sucks flaccid cock
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Yeah, I meant who doesn’t explore every dialogue option before murdering. In It For The Tank posted:Kills one more and leaves another note taunting Geralt before skipping town. You can kill them both if you get the lead before offing the priest. And you should, because they're both monsters
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Arrgytehpirate posted:if I had cast the old actress in the play would she have been attacked instead? quote:Been running around finishing up side quest before I head to skellige. Just have Triss and Roche left for major ones. They’ve mostly been not super interesting except the Radovid one. fyi the end of Triss' quest in Novigrad is where you have a chance to commit to romancing her, it doesn't matter how you've acted toward here up to that point it's a simple yes/no romance me. Yen's romance is The Last Wish quest which you'll get when you wrap up Skellige, do that right away as if you leave Skellige it'll auto-fail. The Last Wish is a good quest, do it even if you don't want to romance Yen. Dumping her is pretty satisfying in its own right.
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I don't know if I could ever dump Yen. Pretty loving cruel of CDPR to put that choice immediately after Yen realizes she finally has someone she can truly love and open up to.
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 There's a spot where Geralt can use Axii to make two schmucks count to 100 so he can walk into their fisstech lab. The VAs actually count to 100 and start bitterly cursing in the 80s. Greatest game ever.
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Under the vegetable posted:There's a spot where Geralt can use Axii to make two schmucks count to 100 so he can walk into their fisstech lab. The VAs actually count to 100 and start bitterly cursing in the 80s. Greatest game ever. that's hilarious and amazing kind of reinforces what I meant about taking it sloooow and listening to ambient dialogue, it's often very reactive and you can easily miss a lot of flavor and world-building by sprinting/galloping through stuff
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1stGear posted:I don't know if I could ever dump Yen. Pretty loving cruel of CDPR to put that choice immediately after Yen realizes she finally has someone she can truly love and open up to. The ending of that is probably the most well animated scene in the game.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:The ending of that is probably the most well animated scene in the game. 
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Jan 6, 2018 03:33
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Jan 6, 2018 03:36
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Where can I find white gull? you don't, it's crafted only. you might be missing the recipe? welcome to w3 crafting it's kind of bad
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Where can I find white gull? FYI the recipe is in the Alcohol section, I believe, which is not where you'd expect it to be instinctively
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poo poo. I need it for a ton of oil upgrades. Well I need it to make the right thing anyways. God dammit
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I’m about 20 hours into the game, never played it much before (started it a year ago, played the “find the blackened pan” and “follow the trail to the fisherman’s doohickey” and gave up on it because it wasn’t Skyrim and the movement controls were wonky). The Bloody Barron alone has roughly 100x the characterization as anyone in Skyrim. He’s a bastard, but he has his motivations and a tough hand felt to him. His family is fleshed out, and the simple “figure out the mystery of the missing wife and daughter” -> “the Barron is a wife beater” quest was given a great amount of room to breathe into a more human story. I can see why this is a game of the year.
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Jan 6, 2018 04:23
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 Where the cat and wolf play is one hell of a quest.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:
Is it time for the second most recurring thread argument to start again??? cat witcher deserves death
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SirSamVimes posted:Is it time for the second most recurring thread argument to start again??? The real answer is that the Witcher 3 deserves multiple playthroughs, picking as many different choices as one can stomach. About to start my 4th playthrough and am looking forward to a different outcome with Radovid.
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The Cat Witcher is Geralt's dear friend. In my canon they occasionally meet on the path and reminisce about goddamned peasants running you through with a pitchfork.
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