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MedicineHut posted:Excuse my thickness but what would be the point for a company that earns a living by licensing software to multiple clients to restrict the client list to just one? AngusPodgorny posted:Normally you'd get an exclusive license to say, sell Whataburgers in Dallas. And then no one else can sell Whataburgers in Dallas. So by extension, this exclusive license to use Crytek's engine in Star Citizen means no one else can use Crytek's engine in Star Citizen. (bolding mine) this is what it would traditionally mean, and a good explanation by lawgoon Angus here. 
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D_Smart posted:It doesn't. Because no royalties are due under the GLA. Precisely, which means CryTek / Skadden are going after different types of damages.
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Dusty Lens posted:CIG's legal strategy This post gave me great laughter. Thank you. 
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SoftNum posted:(bolding mine) I think I get that. The point is who else, other than the Star Citizen IP holder, would be able to use CryEngine (or any other engine for that matter) in Star Citizen? MedicineHut fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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D_Smart posted:loving lol if you guys thought that those broken-brained rear end-clowns were going to take one look at the RSI/CIG response, and not find a way to translate it into a victory. By Feb 9th there will be a whole lot more to laugh at than just this case.
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Dusty Lens posted:I keep reading through all of these documents and I haven't seen poo poo about a shirts vs skins beach volleyball game to decide the fate of the old boathouse and CIG et all. They are waiting for Lesnick to coming bursting out at the last second, telling them he is giving up his dream of cheersquad lead, rip off his shirt and yell "game on!" monkeytek fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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TheAgent posted:btw here's may layman response to the lawsuit thing This is the most useful breakdown I've read so far
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monkeytek posted:They are waiting for Lesnick to coming bursting out at the last second, telling them he is giving up his dream of cheersquad lead, rip of his shirt and yell "game on!" Aye, the bursting gallbladder defense.
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Dusty Lens posted:CIG's legal strategy Hmm *smokes massive bowl* 
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Loxbourne posted:Now both parties have filed their statements of case, we're firmly into the territory of "will this argument fly with a court?". That's subjective and dependant entirely on the judge and jury's own reactions on the day. We can comment on the evidence, caselaw, etc (and I think there's plenty of scope for a good effortpost or three about the caselaw FFKS are citing on the meaning of "exclusive"), but we are not qualified to say which argument is likely to win. Even if we were, every lawyer's seen a totally bullshit argument unexpectedly work, or an ironclad one fail. We should also laugh because this clearly cedes any moral high ground on CIG's part. They clearly know that the exclusivity thing is bullshit. This filing is tantamount to them stating "Yes we hosed CryTek over but we would very much like to escape on a technicality." Once again, by their own behavior they directly contradict their words and their self-billing as this paragon of transparency.
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Holy poo poo guys star citizen is go... goo... gently caress i cant say it. Star citizen is bad. Also one of my co workers hates me now because any time i see him i say Derek Smart. Hes a backer, relatively small backer though at 120 bux. I miss my old whale backer coworker...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJgrqQlim8 Leo French, the copyright lawyer is doing a live read of the thing now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvZfrXPchg&t=188s Question: "What, in your words, has been the hardest part of making your vision of the game a reality?" 2014 Chris: "It's a little early to answer that question" Still as true as ever, lol.
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French's finished reading and is trying to sum it up. Nope, he's reading a different thing now. SelenicMartian fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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I dunno. Not a lawyer or anything, but this GLA seems really badly written. Not a great sign for Crytek's case.
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happyhippy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJgrqQlim8 If you want to study "this is what I believe so this is what I see" in real time it's a good chat.
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Hah, love that he mentions having a ticket open because he can't run SC.
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Ugh, that Leonard guy is soooo terrible to watch. I mean, kudos to him for admitting he's a backer in the first video, but he skims the poo poo out of that response and highlights things he thinks are favorable to CIG. He completely negates to touch on any portion of the GLA that shows Squadron 42 and Star Citizen were the same product, etc etc etc.
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I can’t watch the lawyer dude but what does he say? Anything good?
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That no damages clause does seem weird though. Is that maybe why the amended complaint added intentionally to everything?
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SelenicMartian posted:CIG's paper 'looks compelling' His follow up videos are going to be hilarious.
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hardycore posted:oh wait this guy is a commando? pffffff he almost had me going for a second Yeah, the first video he did of the original complaint, I kind of wrote him off as "oh, he's new to Star Citizen, so there's just a lot of history and context he doesn't get" Then with this one he skims the gently caress out of the GLA and cherry picked the poo poo out of those documents (something he said earlier in the stream made it sound like he's read it all already, so that may be why). The fact that he's a copyright lawyer (is that right?) and doesn't bother to go over the GLA in it's entirety , or the entire bottom section that outlines Squadron 42 and Star Citizen as the same game, shows either; 1. He's absolutely loving terrible at picking portions of a document to skip over 2. He knew that section was there and chose to skip it so he could drop his dank "If I was judge judy I would rule for crytek, oops I meant CIG" line 3. He knew that section was there and he's a die hard CIG believer and didn't want to shatter the Reddit Armchair Lawyers ability to argue Space Law on the Subreddit for the next month.
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MedicineHut posted:poo poo. She´s blind. We´re hosed. And she sat down, we sat down, Obie looked at the seeing-eye dog. And began to cry because he realised that it was a typical case of American Blind Justice and there was nothing he could do about it. And the judge wasn't going to look at the 27 8x10" coloured glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one.
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thatguy posted:Let's get some predictions on how many words Derek will type about how wrong that lawyer dude is.
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