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moush posted:I thought people complained that there wasn't enough good removal in standard? Now the removal is too good? The removal is stapled to a creature so it kinda perpetuates the problem, i.e. creature's raging valueboner has become too much for removal to contain
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If the removal is stapled to a creature it's not really creature removal
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Jan 7, 2018 03:39
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TheKingofSprings posted:If the removal is stapled to a creature it's not really creature removal But it is able to be eternalised with Scarab God!
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Jan 7, 2018 03:40
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Tubgoat posted:But it is able to be eternalised with Scarab God! That's probably just The Deck after energy is banned out, isn't it? Draft and Standard are so bad that it drove me to play Warhammer 40k. I ended up loving it, not entirely convinced it's not Stockholm syndrome.
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Jan 7, 2018 03:43
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LifeLynx posted:That's probably just The Deck after energy is banned out, isn't it? Do not leave game for even more bad game Or at least look up how much move of a fuckup company GW is compared to WotC before you dive in Also yeah if Scarab God isn't preemptively banned it seems likely to probably dominate Which I would be close to fine with because Scarab God owns
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Jan 7, 2018 03:47
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LifeLynx posted:That's probably just The Deck after energy is banned out, isn't it? It's got me completely addicted to Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire, I even painted my first warband last night. I sold standard staples to buy all my paints and the Ork expansion and I still have money left over in store credit.
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if you gotta play games workshop please play blood bowl
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rabidsquid posted:if you gotta play games workshop please play blood bowl I wanted to and asked both big shops in the area and it's completely dead here.
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There's actually not a simple answer to which of Warhammer and Magic are worse, because both are garbage in different ways
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The worst thing you could ever do in life is enjoy something that's imperfect.
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TwistedNails posted:It's got me completely addicted to Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire, I even painted my first warband last night. I sold standard staples to buy all my paints and the Ork expansion and I still have money left over in store credit. Actually yeah, Shadespire got me into 40k proper. Shadespire is a combination card/boardgame and until then I refused to give GW money, but that game is so much fun and cheap. GW's new CEO is much better at realizing people care about the rules rather than throwing dice at each other's pretty models, so TOs are selling out tournaments instead of players not playing because they haven't gotten a codex (rules) update in four years. They're still all about that profit, but just as much as WotC is instead of being cartoonishly greedy (but maybe that's the same thing). Charging too much for plastic or cardboard is the same deal.
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Jan 7, 2018 04:07
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LifeLynx posted:That's probably just The Deck after energy is banned out, isn't it? Seems bad vs Hazoret.
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Jan 7, 2018 04:10
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That Chupacabara rant was awesome.
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Jan 7, 2018 04:13
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TheKingofSprings posted:Which I would be close to fine with because Scarab God owns I have to really struggle to remember the upkeep effect because the activated ability plus unkillable already feels insanely unfair. The drain and scry is gravy.
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Jan 7, 2018 04:21
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I have to really struggle to remember the upkeep effect because the activated ability plus unkillable already feels insanely unfair. The drain and scry is gravy. Havengul Lich was one of my favorite cards that never saw any time in the sun so I'm glad it transformed into a beetle to have it's revenge on standard
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Jan 7, 2018 04:31
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TheKingofSprings posted:Havengul Lich was one of my favorite cards that never saw any time in the sun so I'm glad it transformed into a beetle to have it's revenge on standard That card was super fun in the Heartless Summoning deck with Perilous Myr and Solemn Simulacrum and Phyrexian Metamorph and Rune-Scarred Demon.
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Entropic posted:That card was super fun in the Heartless Summoning deck with Perilous Myr and Solemn Simulacrum and Phyrexian Metamorph and Rune-Scarred Demon. It was also not a very good deck vs. Delver
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moush posted:I thought people complained that there wasn't enough good removal in standard? Now the removal is too good? You need more than one good kill spell for removal to be good. Otherwise one kind of deck gets a monopoly on a central component of the play-counterplay element of a two-player game. Like only one person gets draw 2 in Uno. Also it prioritizes creatures that do well against it. What do you loving know, it's what Temur Energy already loving uses. Chup gets everything harnessed lightning already did, plus that cool new 9-drop dino.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:I have to really struggle to remember the upkeep effect because the activated ability plus unkillable already feels insanely unfair. The drain and scry is gravy. So you’re saying Chupacabra should be a zombie so the scry ability is relevant even when it’s not eternalized by Scarab God?
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Jan 7, 2018 06:10
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So the red Snapcaster is going to be really good right?
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Angry Grimace posted:So you’re saying Chupacabra should be a zombie so the scry ability is relevant even when it’s not eternalized by Scarab God? If you want a picture of the future of magic, picture an eternalized goatsucker stomping on your guys... Forever.
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Jan 7, 2018 06:19
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DangerDongs posted:So the red Snapcaster is going to be really good right? even if it doesn't catch on in eternal formats, i bet it does some cool poo poo in mono red edh decks i could see it not matter in standard at all, and probably sitting in sideboards in other formats
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DangerDongs posted:So the red Snapcaster is going to be really good right? Sideboard maybe? Idk, maybe nowadays there are enough worthwhile instants and sorceries in the good decks that one or two maindeck makes sense.
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Energy has ~7 good targets, Ramunap closer to 10.
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DangerDongs posted:So the red Snapcaster is going to be really good right? Its something that really needs to be played to get a feel. Standard? Does mono red run this? Probably not. Modern? Seems like it could get some value but then again the lack of flash really, really hurts.
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TheKingofSprings posted:It was also not a very good deck vs. Delver actually it was fine vs delver, it just lost hard to control. Also Wolf-run Ramp was more consistent
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If they nerf Temur and don't hit Mono red at all, which they are probably stupid enough to do, this card is going to be crucial for the mirror. They need to ban Ramunap ruins. An aggro deck shouldn't have that much reach with its lands. Also if Attune gets banned there is a good chance that B/R/x list will start floating around with Glory-B, Ghonti, Glint-sleeves, and these will run pushes, abrades, and vraska's, so I think Red Snappy is going to shine in this up coming format. The only way it doesn't is if the top decks are control or tribal decks that are so linear they don't have room for removal.
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Sickening posted:Its something that really needs to be played to get a feel. Standard? Does mono red run this? Probably not. Modern? Seems like it could get some value but then again the lack of flash really, really hurts. IDK how you can play a card that is so dependent on what your opponent is playing in standard..
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mcmagic posted:IDK how you can play a card that is so dependent on what your opponent is playing in standard.. Well there are sideboards, and also that the top two decks in Standard run lots of removal and would be hurt by their own removal.
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mcmagic posted:IDK how you can play a card that is so dependent on what your opponent is playing in standard.. Or any format really. The more I look at it the more down I get on it. If the exile mechanic was more like gonti it would be more playable. As a bad backwards snapcaster? Not so much.
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DangerDongs posted:Well there are sideboards, and also that the top two decks in Standard run lots of removal and would be hurt by their own removal. Are there cards you'd prefer in your sideboard over a value piker, though?
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If I was playing Mono-red, then no. Also calling it a value-piker is kind of stupid.
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I always find it odd when they print nearly-strictly-better cards close together, but somehow it didn't strike me until now that these are both in the same set:  
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Nibble posted:I always find it odd when they print nearly-strictly-better cards close together, but somehow it didn't strike me until now that these are both in the same set: recentspellsVSrecentcreatures.png
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Nibble posted:I always find it odd when they print nearly-strictly-better cards close together, but somehow it didn't strike me until now that these are both in the same set: Uh Chubacabra is not "strictly better" because Impale lets you hit your own creature in case you need to for reasons. 
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mcmagic posted:IDK how you can play a card that is so dependent on what your opponent is playing in standard.. Can't wait to win by casting my opp's Approaches. How they get in the graveyard, I have my ways. 
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GoutPatrol posted:Can't wait to win by casting my opp's Approaches. you might want to reread Approach
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I mean just make their Approach the one you cast first.
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mcmagic posted:So what are we thinking in Red? Fanatical Firebrand or Soul Scar Mage? I'll test Fiebrand because I like his ability to ping off a Glint-sleeve siphoner or other 1 HP creatures, but the fact that he has totap for that makes him seem bad to me, even in Standard. Soul-Scar, on the other hand, helps getting rid of hazoret and/or weakening other fatties so I am still leaning towards him.
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