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infernal machines posted:depends on how you define workstation i guess. anything dual-socket will be legit, but there's not much of that. beyond that anything single socket that supports xeons and ecc should count, and gigabyte, asus, et al. have something it's just hard to find unless you go digging for it on their site. in fairly sure workstation in this case means "cheaper than consumer tier motherboard without marketing I dislike", and not legitimate boards like $500 WS C621E SAGE
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cinci zoo sniper posted:in fairly sure workstation in this case means "cheaper than consumer tier motherboard without marketing I dislike", and not legitimate boards like $500 WS C621E SAGE no, workstation in my case would actually mean at least some variants support multiple sockets, ECC, and so on like something equivalent to what would be in an oldschool Mac Pro, or an Intel-based Sun or SGI workstation
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eschaton posted:no, workstation in my case would actually mean at least some variants support multiple sockets, ECC, and so on well, those are made just by almost any motherboard manufacturer that exists
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well for dual socket + ECC workstations I think you're going to be going with supermicro, though if you want to go all out on the insanity, asrock just launched a micro-ATX threadripper board 
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MyCloud! YourCloud! HisCloud! EverybodysCloud!
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ProjektorBoy posted:so you're saying that there's some gently caress you for making that joke. gently caress me for getting it.
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my appartment complex door code is abab so the buttons a and b are in markedly different colour than the rest
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why'd you post zack? 
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eschaton posted:who even makes workstation and non-gamercrap consumer Intel-chipset motherboards these days? asus, supermico, tyan
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eschaton posted:no, workstation in my case would actually mean at least some variants support multiple sockets, ECC, and so on intel currently sells special "workstation" chips in the lga2011 socket, the xeon e3 1600 series. they're almost as cheap as a consumer chip but they have large caches and ecc is enabled. the next step up is two sockets, and two sockets cost a lot more than twice as much.
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does threadripper support ecc? i seem to remember it not having ecc
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infernal machines posted:does threadripper support ecc? i seem to remember it not having ecc Ryzen, Threadripper, and Epyc all work with ECC memory.
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there's people in the replies saying this was fixed in november https://twitter.com/erichalbritter/status/950035659422547970
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probably just changed it to a different backdoor password
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lol from the Techspot article linked: quote:Owners of Western Digital NAS drives are not safe on local area networks, either. Specially crafted HTML image and iFrame tags can be used on websites to make requests to devices on a local network using predictable host names. No user interaction is required other than visiting a malicious webpage. the world wide web was a mistake
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Nalin posted:Ryzen, Threadripper, and Epyc all work with ECC memory. my recollection is that they work with but are not 'validated' or w/e
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:my recollection is that they work with but are not 'validated' or w/e That was with the original Ryzen, but they advertise ECC for Threadripper directly on the product page so they probably did whatever "validation" was needed by that point.
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infernal machines posted:there's a fairly major manufacturer of glass curtain-walls in north america that buys nothing but cad stations built around consumer grade motherboards and the 2fast2furious pcgaming videocard of the day, because it saves nearly 50% per workstation over whatever optiplex model and certified drivers don't mean poo poo in cad and solidworks these days poo poo, if you read the trash CAD magazines they TELL you to buy whitebox gaming poo poo over real vendor supported systems. that whole industry is a joke
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well yeah, what else are you going to do, deal with centralized IT? just buy whatever machine youw ant for what you need, and if you need, get a consumer wireless router and plug that in, clone the officially supported mAC address to it and do whatever you want behind that
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eschaton posted:who even makes workstation and non-gamercrap consumer Intel-chipset motherboards these days? what are the relevant gamercrap attributes you need to avoid, functionally?
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I’m not au courant, what’s the functional effect of that?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:my recollection is that they work with but are not 'validated' or w/e ryzen has ecc capability, but if it fails you won't get warranty because it's not officially supported. in threadripper and epyc it's officially supported. why do you care what's on the inside of a black box?
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Subjunctive posted:I’m not au courant, what’s the functional effect of that? gets you some very interesting attention if you try to go through security with it
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vOv posted:gets you some very interesting attention if you try to go through security with it fair enough, I’ve not taken a desktop PC through security before does the plastic show up on X-ray, then?
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Subjunctive posted:I’m not au courant, what’s the functional effect of that? if you're not careful when you're plugging your mouse in you can shoot yourself
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Subjunctive posted:fair enough, I’ve not taken a desktop PC through security before iirc that's actually a heatsink, so it's aluminum e: wait that one just looks like a plastic cover over a heatpipe, there's definitely one that was actually solid metal and a heatsink though
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Subjunctive posted:fair enough, I’ve not taken a desktop PC through security before i don't actually know, i was just making poo poo up
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Subjunctive posted:fair enough, I’ve not taken a desktop PC through security before plastic shows up just fine on x-ray, though airport screening systems don't generally hilight it like they do metal.
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Subjunctive posted:what are the relevant gamercrap attributes you need to avoid, functionally? the #1 attribute I want to avoid is the assumption I’ll throw it away for something newer in a year so they don’t have to provide firmware updates I’m also just fine without features like LED control and overclocking support that just makes things unstable
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:day 3 additional: this is pretty neat to see. My graduate studies involved doing image formation like this at radar frequencies (so could be a little higher) but essentially trading off signal processing for dragging a small antenna around an aperture instead of building a huge array in the first place. He ends up talking about this, like coming up with bistatic radar concepts but he has the same problem of angular resolution as a function of lambda--as wavelength goes down to get more useful images, signal attenuation through most materials goes up. From a security perspective, this would be really neat to put a long-dwell system in with some disguised apertures. At the cost of some cheap signal processing, you could move around some reasonably sized sensing antennas and over time map out emissions from stations. Even weird artifacts from doing this over a long period of time (where the emitters might move around) would probably yield interesting artifacts like traffic patterns of smartphones, computers, etc. Neat stuff, thanks for sharing your writeup.
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