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SomethingJones posted:Licenses are restrictive, they set out what you cannot do. They set limits and boundaries. The word exclusive in the context of a license is excluding something and that something must be clearly defined. This is no different than when a sports celebrity has an exclusive contract with an apparel company. Can you imagine the shitshow if Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods who both have $100 Mil + endorsement contracts with Nike showed up on gameday wearing Reebok? 
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Please be careful when posting jokes that could be misconstrued as telling someone to kill themselves. There's a fine line around here somewhere and I'd hate to accidentally step on it 
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Jan 7, 2018 23:48
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Pgabz ain't the same since they hosed with his skull 
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Jan 7, 2018 23:48
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Do not drink bleach under any circumstances. Feel free to quote the poo poo out of this.
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Jan 7, 2018 23:53
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DapperDon posted:This is no different than when a sports celebrity has an exclusive contract with an apparel company. Can you imagine the shitshow if Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods who both have $100 Mil + endorsement contracts with Nike showed up on gameday wearing Reebok? Yeah this whole thing sounded like a weird argument for Crytek to put forward in the first place, but if you frame it in the context of a console-exclusive game it actually holds a fair amount of water, comparatively. When a game does a "console exclusive" launch that's been agreed on by the developer and console owner (as opposed to a "console exclusive because I'm a small developer and had to pick one platform and stick with it"), the benefit for the console is obviously "this game is on this console, buy the console" and the associated PR for it. The benefit for the developer, on the other hand, tends to be measured in benefits granted during the development process. For a console a lot of the time this means faster turnaround on support tickets/patch submissions, but (especially in the case of a launch-day release game on a new console) this can go as far as having people from Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony coming to your office in person to help streamline engine development on their hardware. Comparing this to Crytek, I'd say "Crytek doing the kickstarter demo" would absolutely be at that same level of super-super-VIP support. It's easy to say "well why would anyone be so dumb as to commit contractually to one engine", but imagine you're doing your 3D pacman clone and Unity sent out a bunch of engineers to help develop it, and possibly even started backporting fixes into the mainline Unity engine to help your game out? It would be really, really dumb of Crytek to commit to that level of specialized support and not have something in the contract to require Star Citizen to keep using Cryengine and not jumping to something else randomly later on.
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Jan 7, 2018 23:53
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This god drat bullshit response is doing nothing for my space court blue balls. gently caress all of it. I've been doing some soul-searching these last 30 pages or so, and I've come to the conclusion that I'm rooting for CIG, and I hope this case gets dismissed. We're already going to see loving Chris Roberts blubbering about how he wasted hundreds of hours engaged in this stupid lawsuit, hours he could have spent on THE GAME etc, so no 3.1 until 2019, sorry backers. Crytek's fault. Pledge more. If they settle and are on the ropes cash-wise already and run out of juice it's going to be a wet fart, the dream dies, sorry backers. Crytek's fault. A jury trial is just more of the same, likely even more frustration. If I'm going to be blueballed like this it might as well be until 2022 when I get to see them admit that their lovely 300 million dollar 10 fps boring piece of unplayable poo poo is in fact the MVP and they are held accountable by the rabid loving cultists in their community. That is my ELE, not this nonsense
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The thing is they'll never be held accountable for anything because they already have multiple boogeymen to blame, and the faithful are too loving stupid to see past that. Whenever the bubble bursts it won't be CIG or Chris' fault, it'll be goons/Derek/Crytek/refunders/whatever comes next or any combination of those that the backers turn their ire on. The crobbler has already won.
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Jan 7, 2018 23:58
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History Comes Inside! posted:The thing is they'll never be held accountable for anything because they already have multiple boogeymen to blame, and the faithful are too loving stupid to see past that. This is true, but a lawsuit sucking them dry will still make people wonder what could have been. I want them to know.
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Jan 8, 2018 00:00
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So we have one faction of goons who are true believers in the Failure of Star Citizen; they don't want this court case to meddle with something they've been waiting years for. And we have other goons who basically just like seeing CIG get hosed over, as long as it's their own fault. I love it.
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Jan 8, 2018 00:01
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Mangoose posted:This god drat bullshit response is doing nothing for my space court blue balls. gently caress all of it. Well tell me about blue balls. My dreams are filled about posts on the p6666, my nightmares are the "submit reply" button clicked just to display that the page doesn't exist. Go gently caress yourself.
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Jan 8, 2018 00:03
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Zzr posted:Well tell me about blue balls. My dreams are filled about posts on the p6666, my nightmares are the "submit reply" button clicked just to display that the page doesn't exist. Go gently caress yourself. This is the only true goal.
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Jan 8, 2018 00:05
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Martman posted:So we have one faction of goons who are true believers in the Failure of Star Citizen; they don't want this court case to meddle with something they've been waiting years for. And we have other goons who basically just like seeing CIG get hosed over, as long as it's their own fault. I love it. I have two expectations/requirements: 1. CIG being shut down as a result of internal or external events. 2. Ample supply of LOLs in the process. Bonus points: Chris, Sandi, and Ortwin face personal repercussions through the fulfillment of #1. The spergs can cling to whatever narrative they want. Screw them.
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Jan 8, 2018 00:08
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Derek Smart.
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Ghostlight posted:Derek Smart. Harsh
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Mangoose posted:This is true, but a lawsuit sucking them dry will still make people wonder what could have been. I want them to know. But they won't know, because they are too stupid. Whatever shitshow they finally get will just be seen as the result of goons/Derek/Crytek/refunders/whatever comes next loving with the project, not as the result of Chris and co being completely incompetent and promising the impossible. It literally doesn't matter if they close up shop tomorrow or if they finally poo poo out the MVP in 2022, all shortcomings between reality and dreams will be scapegoated away by the faithful.
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Jan 8, 2018 00:12
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Thread is good! Send help.
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Skyrim's run in the AGDQ seems almost as broken as star citizen.
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Abuminable posted:I have two expectations/requirements: 
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History Comes Inside! posted:But they won't know, because they are too stupid. But that's the cultists. I mean regular, uninvested people who are just following the project, and the gaming media. I want them to understand the enormity of this shitshow. The cultists are beyond help, they're just fun to laugh at.
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Zzr posted:Well tell me about blue balls. My dreams are filled about posts on the p6666, my nightmares are the "submit reply" button clicked just to display that the page doesn't exist. Go gently caress yourself. Motherfucker, anything over 5999 pages requires 64 bit postitioning. We don't have the technology. You'd need some kind of forum visionary to save shitposting
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Martman posted:So we have one faction of goons who are true believers in the Failure of Star Citizen; they don't want this court case to meddle with something they've been waiting years for. And we have other goons who basically just like seeing CIG get hosed over, as long as it's their own fault. I love it. That is kinda cool now that you put it into words. I'm a member of the first faction, but I won't shed tears if the E.L.E. of the second faction comes to pass. It would be like euthanasia at this point.
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iospace posted:I'm quoting the poo poo out of this AND I HAVEN'T CALLED MY PARENTS I regret to inform you that you are in breach of the "Quoting and Miscellaneous Diatribes" section of this forums user agreement, subsection xviii-1A, and you have six (6) calendar days to remedy this breach. If you fail to follow these instructions, in the allotted time, then bad stuff will/may happen. So help me (insert your own deity). For definitions of any terms used in this user agreement, please refer to the DICTIONARY, ADDENDUM 1B. Thank you and come again.
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So how much backer money was dumped in to the retainer for these lawyers? I'm assuming that all the money was handed over upfront. Their client does have a long history of loving over parties they have contracts with. Kevin Costner, the contractor for the Santa Monica office, illfonic, Amd (the "Letter" guys), probably a dozen more.
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Downer: I've actually managed to do it, I was trapped INSIDE the planet, I flew threw the ground from underneath... which actually looked like the space above me... and now I'm IN the space above me with the ground that I've just flown through... directly BENEATH me. It's a wonderful world. Oh I designed it like that Yes, yes I know Chris you're a very clever man I know yes, yes, I designed it like that it was deliberate yeah, me and Sandi sat down one night and um, I don't know if the pasties were OFF that we'd eaten but we started to see this VISION of being INSIDE the ground and ABOVE the sky simultaneously which meant that as you pass through the BOUNDARY between this world that we know which would be INSIDE of matter which would be inside the planet of YELLA, we pass out into the BLUESCAPE which is actually the SKYSCAPE which forms a DOME above it And I don't know if you know this but if you pass through the ground going upwards from beneath, then you come out into the same area that we're now in originally which seemed to be the area that you were in, only inverted when you're on the other side Wow, it's like an episode of STRANGER THINGS Chris, you're amazing Yeah I know we're very inspired by that, very inspired by Stranger Things Yes I can see that Chris, you're very inspired by stranger things
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Scruffpuff posted:That is kinda cool now that you put it into words. I'm a member of the first faction, but I won't shed tears if the E.L.E. of the second faction comes to pass. It would be like euthanasia at this point. Oh yeah? What sustains the thread? That's right. What would you do if you didn't have this? Ask yourselves, all of you! What would you do? Go back to actually working more than 4 hours a day? gently caress that! This lawsuit needs to die before it can do any more damage!
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Mangoose posted:Oh yeah? What sustains the thread? That's right. What would you do if you didn't have this?
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CrazyTolradi posted:Settle down, Beavis. Are you threatening me?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7qhJ0Je-1E&t=330s Downer: Yes we like to think of it as going BENEATH, Sandi's shaved her head and is pretending to be psychic, I'm the fat kid from the arcade Yeah sounds good Chris, sounds really good Yeah we like ROLEPLAY ... Now I wonder if I put myself down on this ice flow, is that going to help me to... if we can go back through. Maybe I've just landed in the water, maybe that's all it was, maybe... is this WATER on the moon? I don't know why when you log out in bed, I woke up in the cockpit flying along. I mean that's not something that you wanna do is it, nod off at the wheel of your HERALD on the M5 at night, but there's the shadow of a HERALD, now I'm assuming this is ice but it could be water, it seems to be moving. Alright so basically what I've done is I've crashed into the water. I didn't even know there WAS water. Shall we see if we can do it again? What if I go down HERE... is that water moving? Or is that steam above it? Well we'll soon find out won't we. Here we go... shifting over slightly... whoah, look at that... that is interesting. I've not been to this part of the world so I'm just gonna get out and have a little mooch about, just for the hell of it. Because I've passed beneath what I thought was above me. It turned out the thing that I was stood on was actually above my head Which means... I'm a sort of... geographical contortionist
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loving lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV3AiyPuaIM e: this is amazing
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Dusty Lens posted:What if I call you an idiot a few times and then paste in some poo poo I googled. Now just settle down there sunshine. I've changed a lot of flat tyres in my life, which makes me quite capable of giving opinion on the correct composition of the modern pneumatic tyre's synthetic rubber, natural rubber, fabric and wire. If you say something different to me, then you are an idiot. Because that's how you stimulate a robust and intelligent discussion. It's called 'firing a shot over their bow' and has been used in all the top debating schools since time immemorial. Hence if you watch a good debating team, Number one on the opposing team will start off with, "As a rebuttal to your points, I would like to say, 'your an idiot', thankyou." Some people really don't understand 'debating development'
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Rugganovich posted:Now just settle down there sunshine. This guy gets it.
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I posts's sandwiched myself and I feel good.
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You thought you got me but not this time Ben, NOT THIS TIME.
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Dusty Lens posted:Do not drink bleach under any circumstances. Do not inject the bleach either. It is not de wey.
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Mazz posted:Hello I would like a time machine to whenever the actual court events happen because 100 pages of this IANAL conversation is going to kill me 
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lol someone ask him how many AAA games he's made. #notaskybox
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hot balls man no homo posted:So how much backer money was dumped in to the retainer for these lawyers? I'm assuming that all the money was handed over upfront. Their client does have a long history of loving over parties they have contracts with. Kevin Costner, the contractor for the Santa Monica office, illfonic, Amd (the "Letter" guys), probably a dozen more. Cought Cough MADCatZ Cough Cough...
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Scruffpuff posted:It would be a shame if Sandi got called to the stand and she was the one who had all the dirt on CIG, since her testimony would wind up getting cut.
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