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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Even a CVE is a good kill.

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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Will the Kiddo Butai and Kido Butai be merging at this point? Or is that still too many carriers in one TF?

Also, the glorious empire MUST strike back! We must raid Pearl Harbor again!

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
Those rebased planes are doing fairly good work. Is there a downside to having that many planes on the islands right now?

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
What's that # beside Junyo's name? I always forget to ask when I see it.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
It's the flagship of that fleet.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
Thanks! :)

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Why would you leave Ikazuchi in that fleet? They’re all torpedo bait, now.

Slippery42
Nov 10, 2011

Donkringel posted:

Those rebased planes are doing fairly good work. Is there a downside to having that many planes on the islands right now?

It can, but for a big, built up base like Rabaul, it's not likely. According to the game manual, airfields can only operate a number of planes equal to (50 engines * airfield level) without penalties. That's right, 1, 2, and 4 engine planes are all counted differently. An air HQ unit adds its command radius (usually something like 5 for Allied HQs, not sure about Japanese) to the base's airfield size. Also, you need to have enough Aviation Support devices at the base (usually equal to 1/plane), otherwise your planes won't repair quickly enough. I think once you have 250 Av Sup, that's all you need to keep any number of planes maintained at that base. As a historically important base for Japan, I suspect Grey has it maxed out.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

MrYenko posted:

Why would you leave Ikazuchi in that fleet? They’re all torpedo bait, now.

Sailing back to Japan at the speed of a dinghy, somebodys cursing higher command

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Hm. Japan starts with a floating drydock (ARD) at Truk with a 3000 ton capacity. That DD would probably fit in there...

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Sailing back to Japan at the speed of a dinghy, somebodys cursing higher command
Ikazuchi has 69 float damage, I guess they hope it sinks one hex out and everyone else steams away.


Like seriously Grey, Ikazuchi should be sitting in a harbor until Patton drives his tanks into Tokyo. It should never again be part of a fleet.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jan 8, 2018

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

habeasdorkus posted:

Will the Kiddo Butai and Kido Butai be merging at this point? Or is that still too many carriers in one TF?

Also, the glorious empire MUST strike back! We must raid Pearl Harbor again!

Carrier TF composition should be based on number of planes, rather than flight decks (and ship speed, of course).

There's a base chance of uncoordinated strikes, and this chance is doubled for a Japanese TF if the number of planes in the TF is greater than [200 + random number between 1 to 200]

So a Japanese TF will get that doubled uncoordinated strike chance if they have more than 300 planes in a single TF on average (minimum 201, maximum 400).

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

7 January 1944

U-305 puts a homing torpedo in the British frigate Tweed southwest of Ireland.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

British frigate Tweed

ahahahahaha

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
I hear they tried to use leather to patch the hole.

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009

CannonFodder posted:

Like seriously Grey, Ikazuchi should be sitting in a harbor until Patton drives his tanks into Tokyo. It should never again be part of a fleet.

Much like how the AI works, Grey's task forces consist of "whatever's lying around this hex." See: the omnipresent CL Katori.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
I consider it a handicap.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Grey Hunter posted:

I consider it a handicap.

You are fighting the Pacific war as Japan. Is that not handicap enough?

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

It's very considerate of Grey to give the AI a handicap, it's the honorable thing to do, what with the J-rations and Singapore incident and all that.

Plus the Katori is cute. Who'd want to banish the mascot to a lesser task force? That'd be cruel.

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
Or you could put the Katori and Ikazuchi into a combat task force made entirely of obsolete training ships.

I've seen enough screwball comedies to know that they would be unstoppable (and teach that stuffy admiral a lesson)

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Jack2142 posted:

What day did the Kido Butai get ganked I think I missed it while skipping pages.

December 3, IIRC.

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010

Grumio posted:

Or you could put the Katori and Ikazuchi into a combat task force made entirely of obsolete training ships.

I've seen enough screwball comedies to know that they would be unstoppable (and teach that stuffy admiral a lesson)

Drop them off to defend Singapore.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Jaluit gets another battering.



Their back!



They get a whole Marine regiment ashore on day one, but I'm not sure that's enough to crack our defences.



Half their force is gunned down in a single day.






Oh dear, their doing it again.



The homeward bound carrier force comes under attack.






Curses!






I had to redo today's turn after the game crashed, the original day was a lot bloodier with multiple attacks on Munda and the outgoing carriers. All in all, I prefer today's events.



This I could do without.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

I'd like to imagine that the Navy is currently running a very successful plan to get rid of the Marines before the war is over.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Are the 9 vehicles on Jaluit tanks or trucks? I imagine that they're running off of scavenged parts from the destroyed Allied vehicles at this point.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Danann posted:

Are the 9 vehicles on Jaluit tanks or trucks? I imagine that they're running off of scavenged parts from the destroyed Allied vehicles at this point.

Probably vehicles built from human bones

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Jaluit is getting such a fuckin pile of history studies written about it after the war. No memoirs tho, what with all the nobody surviving. It would be cool if the AI was flexible enough to be able to go gently caress it and drop a nuke on it.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
You took out hal a regiment of Marinesin one day? Wow. That's got to be like.. Some sort of record.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Jaluit is going to be one big war cemetery.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

goatface posted:

Jaluit is going to be one big war cemetery.

At least no one is starving.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

wedgekree posted:

You took out hal a regiment of Marinesin one day? Wow. That's got to be like.. Some sort of record.

3/4 is disabled, meaning temporary out of action. Might be wounded, awaiting replacement to squadron losses or other.

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
Someone on the AI team read Shattered Sword. I can't do much against six CVs in the Solomons in March '42. The AI really wants PM and may get it.

Pervis
Jan 12, 2001

YOSPOS

Woodchip posted:

Someone on the AI team read Shattered Sword. I can't do much against six CVs in the Solomons in March '42. The AI really wants PM and may get it.

Japanese AI? PM is harder and more costly to defend than it might seem, because the IJA can march across the mountain range and stay in supply or seems to be able to and supply routes to PM are hard to defend in general against the AI. As for the carriers the AI has different tactics it will eventually choose but March is still early. If you are playing the harder scenarios (or Ironman itself) it's pretty rough unless you spend a lot of early PP and shipping capacity sending things to the places you absolutely want to keep. I think the few times I planned to keep PM I spent quite a lot of effort shipping things in and arranging for cover for those ops (monthly or less frequent even), so much so that I couldn't really do much else given I was at the end of a very long logistics line and you also want to keep getting AA upgrades for your ships as you can get them and upgrading/training your naval air groups as well.

My best advice is maximizing your Catalina search groups in areas where you have to know if they've got CV's coming at you. I generally don't do much with search arcs I just make an effort to use every bit of air support within a group of bases to run a search group out of every one of them.

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Woodchip posted:

Someone on the AI team read Shattered Sword. I can't do much against six CVs in the Solomons in March '42. The AI really wants PM and may get it.

You get 3 squadrons of A-24 Banshees in Brisbane in early January. They're crap experience-wise, but there's enough of them that you can blunt early landing operations around Lae. Back them up with P-39 Airacobras shipped from the states (three squadrons of the 39th PG), and they're able to kill a ton of unescorted shipping even at low experience. They won't be able to get the carriers (unless you get crazy, super RNG luck) but anything short of a carrier group will be made to pay. These groups withdraw in Mid-march since they're technically Phillippine Air Force units, but they've been able to do crazy amounts of damage before that- In my current game they've taken out both Nachi and Atago (though intel thinks it's the Tone, which I highly doubt) and several light cruisers, along with tons of xAKs and a few xAPs.

Combine that with effective use of your submarines (rebase the S-Boats with working torpedoes to Brisbane and set manual patrol zones near the Rabaul and Finschhafen approaches) and you can put a surprising dent in Japanese invasion shipping. Surface raids with the Asiatic fleet and ANZAC Cruisers aren't out of the question, but they rely on you spotting the Kido Butai on some other part of the map, such as in the Java Sea or near Wake/Midway.

The key to keeping PM early is to reinforce it fast and hard right from December 8th. If you wait until Rabaul is taken to reinforce PM, you're far too late. It's better to spend PPs on Australian engineering units that will get to the front in a week than it is to spend on the expensive early American units that will take 2 weeks to ship to Australia and another week to get to New Guinea. You can also spend points to evacuate the small Nauru and Ocean Island Garrisons, since they're far too close to Truk to survive without naval superiority. You can evacuate the Rabaul and Kavieng garrisons via floatplane to PM, all of which greatly speeds up Airbase, Fort, and Port construction at PM.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The Americans continue to unload doomed troops to Julait.



They have some big rear end fire support though!



They land tanks, and then have to continue to try and get off the beaches.






This is a worrying attack force!



This one was much more effective though.



It's been a good month for Liberator kills so far!






Our troops enter Luchow, meanwhile, we murder some more Chinese.






That was a really heavy day for operational losses! Killing over a hundred points worth of Allied troops makes up for it though!



A mixed bag today!

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

That's a lot of Lightnings. :stare:

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Wouldn't be a grog game without pilots being able to bail out, survive, get captured, then escape and return back to your manpower pool.

Pinback
Jul 22, 2012

I've been having real awful dreams about giant apocalyptic machinery
just mowing us all down...
I just looked at jaluit on google maps and my god what a horrifying place to defend. It's just a narrow ring of sand-bars. Nowhere to hide from all those naval guns :(.

Also lol I can't imagine why you'd land tanks there though.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
To make a point

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
holy drat 40 Lightnings in one go

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