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site posted:And the series ends with everyone in America calling her the coolest hero for no reason at all and Obama telling her she's great at her job Was it not Trump-in-silhouette by then?
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Preeeeetty sure this is about a hundred pounds light and too different a hairstyle to be trump
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Jan 8, 2018 22:11
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Oh, I didn't read it, but I remember seeing that page before and thought they'd moved on to a Trump caricature rather than an Obama one. I suppose I might have the publication dates mixed up. Sure, I remember Geoff Johns's brief run on Avengers ending with George W. Bush putting Carol in charge of some kind of superhuman initiative, though that obviously came to nothing.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:21
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site posted:"lackadaisically macking on women" is quite a strange way to describe ordering a slave to strip so he can rape her ... and then the rape-child did the same to Ms. Marvel who got pregnant and gave birth to... him?  Wow, that was one hosed up storyline.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:28
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site posted:Preeeeetty sure this is about a hundred pounds light and too different a hairstyle to be trump Obama's tenure is really bad in the 616, before this, one of his first acts as President was to put Norman Osborne in charge of national security.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:30
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site posted:Preeeeetty sure this is about a hundred pounds light and too different a hairstyle to be trump Yeah those sentences have more than five words each. Definitely not Trump.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:31
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Jan 8, 2018 22:31
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Not that Obama would have any real issue with her actions anyway. He talked a good game, but his policies showed elsewise.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:34
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How is it the Marvel funnybooks are good fun and yet the main series is such unabashed pro-fascist trash?
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Jan 8, 2018 22:34
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Triathlon would support 3 times the fascist trash as the normal American. He would also gently caress 3 Kangs.
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Jan 8, 2018 22:40
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VanSandman posted:How is it the Marvel funnybooks are good fun and yet the main series is such unabashed pro-fascist trash? Somewhere deep in the bowels of marvel editorial there is at least one person sane enough to realize tying in books aimed at elementary & Jr high school kids to mainline events would be a disaster
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Jan 8, 2018 22:53
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Keeshhound posted:So when exactly did Marvel decide fascism was cool and good? Because between both Civil Wars and the Captain America thing, I think I'm starting to establish the barest hints of a pattern. At least the Captain America Supreme Leader of Hydra thing was portrayed as an indisputable bad thing that you should NOT root for. Carol is still being called the best hero ever with no consequence for any actions she took in Civil War 2.
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Jan 8, 2018 23:00
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site posted:Somewhere deep in the bowels of marvel editorial there is at least one person sane enough to realize tying in books aimed at elementary & Jr high school kids to mainline events would be a disaster But not sane enough to realize tying books aimed at kids to the MIC would be a PR nightmare.
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Jan 8, 2018 23:42
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SilverSupernova posted:Funny thing was, Bendis was the first to actually bring back a few of her character traits and character flaws and such that Deconnic removed (an action which I personally thought made the character kinda bland), and then he went ahead and made her an almost comically extreme exaggeration most likely to try and balance out Iron Man committing literal war crimes during his hissy fit. Bendis looking back to a character's history and bringing it back up in his books is just awful. A few others I can remember are: - Reduced an actual legit romance between Tony and Madam Masque into a "lol u slept with an ugly woman" joke. - Brought up what happened to Carol in Avengers 200 as a joke. Twice, IIRC. - Outed Young Iceman (and by extension Old Iceman) as gay in the worst and most clunky manner possible. - Did the whole "look back into a character's history" almost literally by bringing in the O5 X-Men, which gave us that forgettable Battle for the Atom event.
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Jan 9, 2018 00:36
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Skwirl posted:Obama's tenure is really bad in the 616, before this, one of his first acts as President was to put Norman Osborne in charge of national security. When you think about it, it's amazing that the Marvel Universe has such a thing as a 2 term president. You know every loving debate on an election year is filled with opponents going "Mr. President during your term America has been destroyed twice and nearly 20 new undocumented supervillains have arrived on our shores. Your response?"
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TwoPair posted:When you think about it, it's amazing that the Marvel Universe has such a thing as a 2 term president. You know every loving debate on an election year is filled with opponents going "Mr. President during your term America has been destroyed twice and nearly 20 new undocumented supervillains have arrived on our shores. Your response?" "I erased my brain and replaced it with a back-up from before I did anything lovely, therefore I am completely blame-free  "
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Jan 9, 2018 02:28
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Has Marvel ever gone wild and elected someone batshit crazy and completely unsuitable for presidency like DC did with Luthor? (Please don't say Trump) (Please don't say Bush)
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Jan 9, 2018 02:44
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Pretty sure Bush never recovered mentally from his encounter with Magneto.
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Jan 9, 2018 02:46
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Samuringa posted:Has Marvel ever gone wild and elected someone batshit crazy and completely unsuitable for presidency like DC did with Luthor? Typically, no. While some stuff, like Genosha, is invented whole cloth, Earth-616 is patterned largely after reality as a template, so the only non-actual-president president I am aware of in prime continuity was Spiro Agnew.
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Jan 9, 2018 03:07
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Its canon that Loki ruined the 2016 election though.
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VanSandman posted:How is it the Marvel funnybooks are good fun and yet the main series is such unabashed pro-fascist trash?
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Samuringa posted:Has Marvel ever gone wild and elected someone batshit crazy and completely unsuitable for presidency like DC did with Luthor? There was that time Nixon was the leader of the original secret empire and committed suicide cuz cap pressed him
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Jan 9, 2018 03:32
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Tony Stark was Sec. of State, but that's the most I can recall in 616. There's a What If where Red Skull becomes president, though.
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Endless Mike posted:Tony Stark was Sec. of State, but that's the most I can recall in 616. There's a What If where Red Skull becomes president, though. Tony Stark was Secretary of Defense, and Geoff Johns did an Avengers arc where the Red Skull (using the clever pseudonym of "Dell Rusk") became Secretary of State.
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Endless Mike posted:Tony Stark was Sec. of State, but that's the most I can recall in 616. There's a What If where Red Skull becomes president, though. What If... Captain America Were Not the Only Super Soldier in World War II? 
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Toshimo posted:Typically, no. While some stuff, like Genosha, is invented whole cloth, Earth-616 is patterned largely after reality as a template, so the only non-actual-president president I am aware of in prime continuity was Spiro Agnew. Did Nixon kill himself before Agnew resigned and Nixon made Ford VP irl? I know Watergate was a slow burn but that's hilarious.
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Jan 9, 2018 05:49
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He killed himself the month before he resigned.
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Jan 9, 2018 05:56
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But then he was resurrected a thousand years in the future.
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Jan 9, 2018 05:56
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His head was shot to the world of tomorrow.
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Jan 9, 2018 05:58
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site posted:There was that time Nixon was the leader of the original secret empire and committed suicide cuz cap pressed him The leader of the original secret empire died in an explosion, trying to trap the Hulk, without ever having his identity revealed. You're thinking of the second iteration of the secret empire.
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Professor Wayne posted:His head was shot to the world of tomorrow. Why do you always have to say it that way?
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Jordan7hm posted:The leader of the original secret empire died in an explosion, trying to trap the Hulk, without ever having his identity revealed. You're thinking of the second iteration of the secret empire. Oh dang I didn't know there was another one
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Jan 9, 2018 06:57
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Samuringa posted:Has Marvel ever gone wild and elected someone batshit crazy and completely unsuitable for presidency like DC did with Luthor? The Civil War-verse from Contest of Champions made Tony Stark president. Granted he used his universe's Infinity Gauntlet to rig the election.
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You have the infinity gauntlet. You use it to win presidency. 
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Jan 9, 2018 07:02
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Well it's either that or you get so mad at the dad you rezzed to gloat at that you erase yourself from existence
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site posted:Oh dang I didn't know there was another one I think there were more after that too. Marvel is nothing if not thorough in going back to the well.
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Say Nothing posted:Pretty sure Bush never recovered mentally from his encounter with Magneto. I was wondering what terrible comic this edgy poo poo was from, and saw that it was from the ultimates lines, and then it all made sense. Jesus.
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Jan 9, 2018 09:17
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prefect posted:There have been multiple good Captains Marvel. I want you to know, I appreciate what you've done here.
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Jan 9, 2018 09:59
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I know Englehart intended the leader of the Secret Empire to be Nixon, but hasn't it been retconned (I believe in Avengers Forever) that they were just a prominent White House official rather than the president himself?
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site posted:The part where Ulysses tells her a woman is gonna bomb some place, and she drags the ultimates out to arrest her, only the woman doesn't have a bomb and she gets arrested anyways and Carol has shield black site her until they can create some evidence is still the best-worst part Do note that, to make it so Carol wasn't entirely in the wrong, they had this woman go on to become a villain due to her treatment at the hands of Carol, and she continues to be treated as a bad guy.
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