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Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



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I [23F] broke up with my BF [23 M] about a week ago, he won't accept it and insists we're soul mates

quote:

I've been dating this guy since last August. It was great at first and I had fun with him. I was a bit thrown off when he told me he loved me after a month together but I chalked it up to him being romantic. Now I see it should have been a red flag. He was really nice and easy-going, but that was about all he had going for him. By February I was starting to resent everything about him. I thought maybe my depression was causing me to detach, so I stuck it out.

At the end of April I realized I had to break up with him. I could no longer stand having him around or even talking to him. I blocked him on all social media the night before I did it because I didn't want any harassment or sappy messages but also because I didn't want him to look at my stuff and pine over me, for his own sake.

He texted me right after it happened and then stopped, but then he started texting my boss (we all used to work together, boss and I work together at a different job now) which I think is completely inappropriate. She was initially fine with it until he told her he was going to the hospital for "numbness on his left side" at which point she grew uncomfortable and suggested I tell him to stop.

He texted me earlier today and asked to meet up just briefly, because he had some things he needed to get off his chest. I resisted and then I thought, if he just needs to say some poo poo to help him move on then who am I to deny him that? He asked me what he did wrong and if there was someone else (nothing and no) which only made things worse for him. He told me how miserable he was, everything reminded him of me and he loves me so much. I basically told him that I was really sorry to cause him so much pain but I haven't been happy for months and I didn't know how he couldn't see that. At several points he sank to the ground in tears. I hugged him and told him to go straight to his friend's house for support, and basically had to leave him sobbing outside my house because I couldn't handle it anymore. It was like talking to a brick wall.

He texted me that he "couldn't drive home like this", stayed in my driveway in his car for about 20 minutes and then finally left.

This is my first big breakup and I feel like I'm handling it all wrong. I don't want to hurt him but I need him to understand why it ended and that I do not want him back, at all, ever.

tl;dr: Ex boyfriend is having a very hard time accepting the breakup and I need advice for when/if he wants to "talk things over" again

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Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

Haifisch posted:

I [23F] broke up with my BF [23 M] about a week ago, he won't accept it and insists we're soul mates

lol

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Haifisch posted:

I [23F] broke up with my BF [23 M] about a week ago, he won't accept it and insists we're soul mates

Start loving a bunch of dudes, record it, and send him the videos

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Haifisch posted:

I [23F] broke up with my BF [23 M] about a week ago, he won't accept it and insists we're soul mates

Nah you did it right, hes just a lovely dance partner.

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Ride The Gravitron posted:

All this internet porn seems to suggest otherwise

Porn is for the emotionally childish :colbert:

I [18F] recently met my birth parents [33F, 32M] and they want nothing to do with me.

quote:

I was adopted at birth by my adoptive parents who did the best they could to raise me in a home where I felt loved and appreciated. I was raised an only child in a small town in MD, with my mom and dad and younger autistic brother. Honestly, I never fit in with my family, and they always seemed much more invested in my brothers future then my own (he’s special needs, I understand he requires a lot of specific care). My parents were always VERY private about my birth parents, refused to tell me their names or ages, etc. Just that my birth parents were very good people that wanted the best for me, but weren’t ready to be parents... they gave me my birth records and the information they had about my parents when I turned 16. Turns out my bio parents wanted a totally closed adoption.

It took two years and nine months of digging around on Facebook and the internet to find my birth parents... I found them through who turned out to be my biological grandmother on Facebook, she was shocked and definitely apprehensive to talk to me, just passed on my biomom’s phone number and email and then deleted her Facebook.

Turns out my bio parents don’t ‘do social media.’ I was shocked to learn my birth parents were married. Turns out I was the result of a ‘night of pot-fueled sex.’ They were casual friends for years, started seriously dating in their mid twenties and got married a few years ago.

I have two full blooded biological siblings, both still toddlers, who they refused to let me meet.
My biological mom and dad made it pretty clear they kept the fact that I was even born a very private thing in their lives, and their coworkers/friends don’t even know I exist.

My birth parents made it clear they do not want a long term relationship with me. Bio mom said she is so happy I have a good life and great parents but she “didn’t think of me much if she’s being completely honest” over the years (I did press her to answer honestly, she didn’t say this without me pressing for more information). She said she would be totally willing to answer my questions, and that I should feel free to reach out to anyone in the extended family I want to meet (she even gave me a list of names and contact info to aunts and uncles and stuff) but that my birth was “a lifetime ago” for her and that she feels no bond to me. She did not once say she loved me during the entire three hour visit.

Biodad said he was so young when I was born, and he honestly never thought he’d see me again, that it feels unreal. I was shocked at how much I looked like him, I could literally be his twin. He was quiet through the whole thing, seemed much more preoccupied with how biomom’s was feeling/talking about them what I had to say.

Needless to say, I’m crushed. I wasn’t expecting them to be together and definitely not educated (biodad is in the middle of his PhD, biomom’s has a masters) and together. They explained that they didn’t even really date in high school and that after my birth they just sort of went on to date other people, and do their own thing until falling in love years later. I don’t think this was their intention but I honestly felt like they were implying I wasn’t conceived in ‘love’ and that it was inconsequential to their lives that I was even born. They just happen to be two people who got married who one time in high school had a baby together. I feel cheated out of being part of their perfect little family. I have full blooded siblings that I don’t get to know. :/

They’ve asked me to please keep my ‘existence’ somewhat private to their places of work and stuff. I got angry at one point when they refused to meet me before and threatened to put them on blast at the university biodad works/attends as well as biomoms current job now. I wasn’t really going to do it but I was desperate to meet them, but now I almost feel like they didn’t want to meet me and they did so so I wouldnt “out their secret”. I feel alone and rejected and hurt and I feel like they are cold and can’t understand why they don’t want to love me and get to know me. Should I keep pushing for more contact with them?

TLDR; birth parents ended up getting married years after I was born, have new family together and a perfect little life that they have made it clear they don’t want me a part of. Should I keep contacting them, and am I justified in being angry/thinking they are assholes?

I always find these interesting because I’m an adopted kid too, but I have zero interest in finding my birth family. It isn’t that I hate them or anything it’s just not a thing I ever even think about unless someone else brings it up.

I mean, I’m a little curious so it’s one of those things I’d like to look into before I die but like if you give me the choice between that and shitposting here, well get ready for some low quality posting.

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

quote:

I knew I would have to tell him otherwise I would say passive aggressive things (like with the coat)

uhhh I think we've identified one of your problems

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post

fruit on the bottom posted:

I [18F] recently met my birth parents [33F, 32M] and they want nothing to do with me.

This is sad AF because this girl was adopted and then the family had or adopted a special needs kid that probably sucked up a ton of time and resources. She started building up an imaginary relationship with her biological parents and when she found them they didn't want to be reminded of the choices they made years ago. Girl just wants some kind of love and attention that she's not likely to get :smith:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I have a friend who found out him and his brother had a secret 3rd elder brother that was adopted in a similar situation. They sought him out and have reunited and he looks exactly like them. He ended up some state department dude working in the Obama White house and like half the pictures they showed me were of their secret brother chilling with Obama, so good work secret brother! Sometimes there's happy endings.

But to find out that your bio-parents are a married couple with kids playing happy families but want nothing to do with you? owch.

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib
Harry Potter set an unrealistic expectation for a lot of people.

And yes I know the circumstances aren't exactly the same.

the popular kids
Dec 27, 2010

Time for some thrilling heroics.
I can't imagine how she feels but if it was a closed adoption why on earth would you continue to look? You have to know it will end in heartbreak. There have been a few adoption stories on here and they all seem to end the same way.

I see those posts on Facebook all the time of people looking for their parents/kid/siblings that were adopted in some manner and I can't help but think: did you ever think they don't want to be found? That they don't want to meet YOU?

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

What I imagine really stings is finding out you have toddler siblings and not being allowed to even see them.

the popular kids posted:

I can't imagine how she feels but if it was a closed adoption why on earth would you continue to look? You have to know it will end in heartbreak. There have been a few adoption stories on here and they all seem to end the same way.

I see those posts on Facebook all the time of people looking for their parents/kid/siblings that were adopted in some manner and I can't help but think: did you ever think they don't want to be found? That they don't want to meet YOU?

of course they want to meet me. I am the protagonist of life.

La Brea Carpet
Nov 22, 2007

I have no mouth and I must post
My [23 F] boyfriend [32 M] of three years has not introduced me to any friends or family. We recently had a big fight about it. Please help.

quote:

My boyfriend, let’s call him Chris, and I have been dating for three years. We met while I was working as a server in a high-end restaurant. He came with several men, who I assumed were friends or colleagues, and they had an EXPENSIVE dinner. He was very smiley and flirtatious with me, and he not only paid the entire tab, but also left me a very generous tip and his phone number.

Against my better judgment, I texted him a few days later, asking him if he enjoyed the food. He replied, saying, “He enjoyed the service,” or something like that. More text flirting and days go by, and Chris asked me if I’d like to get a drink. I said yes, and the rest is blissful history.

Chris takes good care of me, financially, at least. He asked me to move in with him about a year ago so that I could stop paying rent and contribute that money to my student loans. How could I say no? I had just graduated and was looking for a job in my field, but I was still working full time as a server to pay my bills. Living with Chris has allowed me to go on more interviews, cut down my hours at the restaurant, and really pursue the kind of job I want.

He travels a lot for business, so I get a lot of time in the house to myself to research job options. I also do the majority of the housework and cooking, because I’m only part-time at the restuarent.

Here’s the thing: since the first time I met him, I’ve not met a single person from his life. He’s taken me out, sure, but never to a work event, never to a friend’s birthday party. I’ve never been invited to a family event, despite having been with him for three years. This seems weird to me.

He’s attended several personal and family events with me, and he has never been less than enthusiastic about attending. He’s met my parents, siblings, and even some of my extended family. He’s come with me to friends’ parties and everything. But I feel like his life is a secret.

Chris doesn’t have any social media, so I can’t even look him up to see what the rest of his life is like. He says that he’s no-contact with his immediate family due to trauma and abuse, but he’s never gone into detail or really explained it to me. He has very few actual friends (I’ve heard him mention less than a handful of names when talking with him about his life), but I’ve still never met any of them.

That first time he came to the restaurant, he had five other men with him. They all seemed really chummy and familiar, so I assumed that these were friends or coworkers of his. The way he commanded their attention, and how they laughed at his jokes, made me think that he was some big-shot. So I don’t really understand why he calls himself sun an introvert.

Last week, we got into a HUGE fight about this. I said I felt like “a secret”, and that he was ashamed of me—maybe because I’m not established in my career yet and am fresh out of college. I accused him of treating me like a whore. Then he really flew off the handle, yelled at me and smacked me across the face. I felt horribly.

I went way over the line, I know. I should be more understanding of his past abuse and the distance he puts between people in his life. It’s for self-preservation, right? I should have been more understanding and less accusatory, I get that.

So, what should I do? I don’t even know if we’re together right now. He’s been sleeping in the guest room and ignoring me for almost a week. Do I take my things and move out? Am I still his girlfriend? Was I ever?

TLDR; My boyfriend of three years, living together for one, hasn’t introduced me to any of his friends/family. Is that weird?

She's the side chick, right?

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

fruit on the bottom posted:

Porn is for the emotionally childish :colbert:

I [18F] recently met my birth parents [33F, 32M] and they want nothing to do with me.


I always find these interesting because I’m an adopted kid too, but I have zero interest in finding my birth family. It isn’t that I hate them or anything it’s just not a thing I ever even think about unless someone else brings it up.

I mean, I’m a little curious so it’s one of those things I’d like to look into before I die but like if you give me the choice between that and shitposting here, well get ready for some low quality posting.
Are these ages wrong or were her parents 14 and 15 at birth?

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die

fruit on the bottom posted:

Porn is for the emotionally childish :colbert:

I [18F] recently met my birth parents [33F, 32M] and they want nothing to do with me.


I always find these interesting because I’m an adopted kid too, but I have zero interest in finding my birth family. It isn’t that I hate them or anything it’s just not a thing I ever even think about unless someone else brings it up.

I mean, I’m a little curious so it’s one of those things I’d like to look into before I die but like if you give me the choice between that and shitposting here, well get ready for some low quality posting.

This seems like a nightmare scenario for the parents who gave the child up for adoption. Nothing from this narrative seems like they did anything wrong and now they have an 18 year old threatening their jobs.

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

cowofwar posted:

Are these ages wrong or were her parents 14 and 15 at birth?

It would explain why her parents told her that her bioparents just weren't ready to be parents yet. Still wouldn't be the youngest parents I've known.

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

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Fallen Rib
Regarding secret girlfriend, she really buried the lede on that one.

Smacking your girlfriend when she accuses you of treating her like a whore kinda proves her point.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

fruit on the bottom posted:

Porn is for the emotionally childish :colbert:

I [18F] recently met my birth parents [33F, 32M] and they want nothing to do with me.


I always find these interesting because I’m an adopted kid too, but I have zero interest in finding my birth family. It isn’t that I hate them or anything it’s just not a thing I ever even think about unless someone else brings it up.

I mean, I’m a little curious so it’s one of those things I’d like to look into before I die but like if you give me the choice between that and shitposting here, well get ready for some low quality posting.

harsh maskenfreiheit truth: if you had two loving adoptive parents you did just fine, and tracking down some people who took the time to make sure you ended up in that situation and berating them for daring to gently caress without having a child (something this child, and everyone else on the planet does) isn't a good look.

not everyone gets two functioning BIO parents and insinuating you were entitled to a tranquil, perfect and biological childhood is dumb. pick two at best.

im not adopted

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

quote:

Then he really flew off the handle, yelled at me and smacked me across the face. I felt horribly.

I went way over the line, I know.

Very few situations where these sentences make sense together.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

cowofwar posted:

Are these ages wrong or were her parents 14 and 15 at birth?

Yeah, from what she says they had her as the result of a pot-fueled accident, adopted her out, went their separate ways and reconnected with each other years later.

Sucks to be her, but she's threatened them to get them to meet her and she's wondering why they don't seem terribly keen on playing happy families with her now?

This is the plot of the next Gone Girl-ish bestseller, isn't it?

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

Runcible Cat posted:

Yeah, from what she says they had her as the result of a pot-fueled accident, adopted her out, went their separate ways and reconnected with each other years later.

Sucks to be her, but she's threatened them to get them to meet her and she's wondering why they don't seem terribly keen on playing happy families with her now?

This is the plot of the next Gone Girl-ish bestseller, isn't it?

Oh, drat. I missed that she threatened to out them because they wouldn't meet her. Seems like a weird threat. "Guess what! Your coworkers, Tom and Susan?! They made a responsible choice and gave a baby up for adoption in a bad situation! That's right!"

Also, I like how she's made herself out to be a loving psycho to her bioparents. Like, imagine that 18 years later, your child shows up and the first thing they do is try to blackmail you.

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maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Runcible Cat posted:

Yeah, from what she says they had her as the result of a pot-fueled accident, adopted her out, went their separate ways and reconnected with each other years later.

Sucks to be her, but she's threatened them to get them to meet her and she's wondering why they don't seem terribly keen on playing happy families with her now?

This is the plot of the next Gone Girl-ish bestseller, isn't it?

it'd be pretty hilarious if they got no contact orders. bonus: they can shoot her if she shows up in person in violation of such an order in civilized states.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

flick my Mr. Bean posted:

Oh, drat. I missed that she threatened to out them because they wouldn't meet her. Seems like a weird threat. "Guess what! Your coworkers, Tom and Susan?! They made a responsible choice and gave a baby up for adoption in a bad situation! That's right!"

it's technically a criminal offense (extortion or blackmail, i forget)

forcing someone to do something they don't want to by revealing information is not legal and you probably shouldn't do it over loving facebook messenger

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Guess I missed out on all the pot-fueled sex parties in grade 10.

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

cowofwar posted:

Guess I missed out on all the pot-fueled sex parties in grade 10.

I love how they kept saying pot-fueled. It was that drat marijuana! Teenagers would never have sex sober!

maskenfreiheit posted:

it's technically a criminal offense (extortion or blackmail, i forget)

forcing someone to do something they don't want to by revealing information is not legal and you probably shouldn't do it over loving facebook messenger

Getting arrested for threatening to reveal shocking but otherwise unremarkable information is the worst crime you can commit.

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Yeah her acting like she's entitled to meet the bio-siblings while they're young is pretty hosed up too, like how in the gently caress do you explain something like that to a little kid, why do you get to turn their lives upside-down? This reminds me of the lady Reddit dragged a while back because she refused to meet her biochild who'd been a product of rape and adopted out closed.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

13Pandora13 posted:

Yeah her acting like she's entitled to meet the bio-siblings while they're young is pretty hosed up too, like how in the gently caress do you explain something like that to a little kid, why do you get to turn their lives upside-down? This reminds me of the lady Reddit dragged a while back because she refused to meet her biochild who'd been a product of rape and adopted out closed.

hot take: not introducing someone who won't respect boundaries to children is good

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

13Pandora13 posted:

Yeah her acting like she's entitled to meet the bio-siblings while they're young is pretty hosed up too, like how in the gently caress do you explain something like that to a little kid, why do you get to turn their lives upside-down? This reminds me of the lady Reddit dragged a while back because she refused to meet her biochild who'd been a product of rape and adopted out closed.

I'm not defending her but I can kind of see how finding out that you have siblings that you can't see or meet might be hard to deal with. Probably one of the reasons they didn't want to meet with her in the first place.

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




flick my Mr. Bean posted:

I'm not defending her but I can kind of see how finding out that you have siblings that you can't see or meet might be hard to deal with. Probably one of the reasons they didn't want to meet with her in the first place.

If the siblings were older and could understand what was happening, why their parents made the decision they did, etc. then sure. This is not the case in this situation.

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Bio mom said it was fine for her to reach out to the extended family, so I think that might possibly have been on the table at some point when they were older.

Maybe not so much no

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Bio mom probably felt like the extended-family ship had sailed, since the kid first found the grandma.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

Even with the blackmail, those are some really cold people. Nothing between them will ever happen unless the parents want it to, best she can do is provide them a way to talk to her and move on.

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

13Pandora13 posted:

If the siblings were older and could understand what was happening, why their parents made the decision they did, etc. then sure. This is not the case in this situation.

Kinda confused on what you mean. I was just saying that I could see not being able to meet my siblings being really hard and it might be one of the many reasons the bioparents didn't want to meet OP. They knew it would be harder for everyone if she knew anything about them.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
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I am the math man.

Rubellavator posted:

Even with the blackmail, those are some really cold people. Nothing between them will ever happen unless the parents want it to, best she can do is provide them a way to talk to her and move on.
Admittedly this all through her eyes, but

quote:

Biodad said he was so young when I was born, and he honestly never thought he’d see me again, that it feels unreal. I was shocked at how much I looked like him, I could literally be his twin. He was quiet through the whole thing, seemed much more preoccupied with how biomom’s was feeling/talking about them what I had to say.
this makes me think there's only one cold parent and one stuck in the middle deciding to side with his wife over daughter he never met.

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Rubellavator posted:

Even with the blackmail, those are some really cold people. Nothing between them will ever happen unless the parents want it to, best she can do is provide them a way to talk to her and move on.

Why? They don't owe her anything. Tangenting slightly but this is why a lot of people choose abortion over adoption, the idea that you can't ever move on from your life and you'll forever "owe" something to someone you wanted nothing to do with is super unappealing when you want to finish growing up, move past a trauma, etc. Their obligation ended with placing her in a safe and loving home which by all accounts, they did.

flick my Mr. Bean posted:

Kinda confused on what you mean. I was just saying that I could see not being able to meet my siblings being really hard and it might be one of the many reasons the bioparents didn't want to meet OP. They knew it would be harder for everyone if she knew anything about them.

I'm saying given the situation and how much they didn't want to see her at all in the first place, she shouldn't have even asked. I can empathize with wanting but wanting at the cost of the the children's stability is unresonable.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

13Pandora13 posted:

Why? They don't owe her anything. Tangenting slightly but this is why a lot of people choose abortion over adoption, the idea that you can't ever move on from your life and you'll forever "owe" something to someone you wanted nothing to do with is super unappealing when you want to finish growing up, move past a trauma, etc. Their obligation ended with placing her in a safe and loving home which by all accounts, they did.

they could have killed (aborted) her. this is why you never show mercy. point a gun at someone then put it away, all they do is WHINE

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

13Pandora13 posted:

Why? They don't owe her anything. Tangenting slightly but this is why a lot of people choose abortion over adoption, the idea that you can't ever move on from your life and you'll forever "owe" something to someone you wanted nothing to do with is super unappealing when you want to finish growing up, move past a trauma, etc. Their obligation ended with placing her in a safe and loving home which by all accounts, they did.

Their obligations are absolutely over, and they don't owe her anything. It's just very hard to imagine them not having some sort of emotional anything in response to her contacting them.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Jake Mustache posted:

A similar incident happened to a Florida Panthers player whilst playing against Buffalo a few years back.

Richard Zednik. It wasn't as bad but you could still see the stream of blood following him into the locker room.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Rubellavator posted:

Their obligations are absolutely over, and they don't owe her anything. It's just very hard to imagine them not having some sort of emotional anything in response to her contacting them.

they should channel the sadness into anger, and egg her car if she shows up again. or maybe pre emptively to assert dominance.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 F] boyfriend [32 M] of three years has not introduced me to any friends or family. We recently had a big fight about it. Please help.


She's the side chick, right?

Oh yeah. "Travels a lot for work" is a dead giveaway, he's got a real family somewhere.

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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

La Brea Carpet posted:

My [23 F] boyfriend [32 M] of three years has not introduced me to any friends or family. We recently had a big fight about it. Please help.


She's the side chick, right?

One of them, yes.

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